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    Lamar Jackson is the worst thrower of the football I’ve ever seen on tape serious

    I’m a nerd when it comes to game tape and I’ve watched all his comparable Vick,Rg3, Randall Cunningham and Tim Tebow. Is he an electrifying athlete yes but compared too all the QBs I’ve seen he has worst arm talent then Tim Tebow. He can only throw to his TE and slot wide receivers, he under throws Marquise Brown a lot who would be a top 10 WR on any other team and a top 5 WR on the Chiefs. As a thrower of the football I simply do not see it, he can barely throw for 200 yards in the game.
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    Originally Posted by AWSbruh View Post
    I’m a nerd when it comes to game tape and I’ve watched all his comparable Vick,Rg3, Randall Cunningham and Tim Tebow. Is he an electrifying athlete yes but compared too all the QBs I’ve seen he has worst arm talent then Tim Tebow. He can only throw to his TE and slot wide receivers, he under throws Marquise Brown a lot who would be a top 10 WR on any other team and a top 5 WR on the Chiefs. As a thrower of the football I simply do not see it, he can barely throw for 200 yards in the game.
    Well yes, all of that is mostly true.

    However it also doesn’t matter. He’s built to run and throw to TEs in short yardage.

    It’s a great recipe for having a fantastic regular season, and that seems to be what Bmore cares about.
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    He's scoring >2 TDs per game, with a TD/INT ratio of 4.7 and passer rating of 103. He doesn't need to be an elite thrower to be an elite QB
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    I will agree with this, he is the worst pocket passer I’ve ever seen.

    Even his throws to the running backs under ten yards away aren’t on the money

    Nfl QB’s throw the ball before the receiver is out of their break most of the time, but he waits way too long
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    He’s pretty bad but I wouldn’t say the worst. Nathan Peterman has to be the worst I’ve seen.
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    Originally Posted by LukeS1 View Post
    He's scoring >2 TDs per game, with a TD/INT ratio of 4.7 and passer rating of 103. He doesn't need to be an elite thrower to be an elite QB
    So you don’t have to be a elite thrower to be an elite QB in a position where you need to throw the ball lmaoo
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    He’s pretty bad but I wouldn’t say the worst. Nathan Peterman has to be the worst I’ve seen.
    Nah Peterman made the nfl throwing the football since he can’t run
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    I don't think Lamar is that great but saying he's a worse thrower than Tebow is just beyond phucking idiotic.
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    But who was Kyler Murray? Fun to watch though and I'm rooting for the kid, but he's looking like a poor man's Michael Vick. Big win for them last night but his passing is terrible.
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    Originally Posted by LukeS1 View Post
    He's scoring >2 TDs per game, with a TD/INT ratio of 4.7 and passer rating of 103. He doesn't need to be an elite thrower to be an elite QB
    Until he’s down double digits and then you cope about how it’s a “small sample size” as he keeps failing to come from behind.
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    Originally Posted by AWSbruh View Post
    So you don’t have to be a elite thrower to be an elite QB in a position where you need to throw the ball lmaoo
    No you don't have to be elite throwing, because he contributes so much with his legs both in directly but also in terms of changing the defence to manage that which opens up the passing game and running lanes for the backs

    I agree if Lamar could not run he would be one of the worst QB in the league, but he can and so he's damn effective used right. His throwing is not Tebow bad though, his deep ball is actually pretty good (particularly in the centre of the field), and his red zone passing is solid. He is also good at improvising with side arm throws and throwing on the run.

    Its mainly just throwing outside the numbers while stationary in the pocket that really sucks
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    Originally Posted by LukeS1 View Post
    No you don't have to be elite throwing, because he contributes so much with his legs both in directly but also in terms of changing the defence to manage that which opens up the passing game and running lanes for the backs

    I agree if Lamar could not run he would be one of the worst QB in the league, but he can and so he's damn effective used right. His throwing is not Tebow bad though, his deep ball is actually pretty good (particularly in the centre of the field), and his red zone passing is solid. He is also good at improvising with side arm throws and throwing on the run.

    Its mainly just throwing outside the numbers while stationary in the pocket that really sucks

    Nah he is horrible everywhere on the field. Ravens are 2nd to last in passing yards per game 😂
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    Lamar Jackson has gone from the NFL’s most productive quarterback in Empty formations in 2019 (53.0 total EPA) to the league’s least productive quarterback in Empty 2020 (-11.5 total EPA), per Sports Info Soltuons. When you subtract those plays from his stat line, his 2019 and 2020 are basically identical…

    Defenses seem to be blitzing more when the Ravens empty out the backfield and Lamar just hasn’t reacted well in the face of that pressure. It appears he’s pressing a little too much. Instead of taking easy options underneath, he’s going straight into scramble mode and looking to get outside the pocket.

    And last year, Lamar was one of the league’s best quarterbacks against the blitz overall, earning an 86.0 grade from PFF on those plays.

    This year, it’s been a combination of factors leading to the bad results out of Empty: Lamar is pressing a bit too much, the Ravens lack a receiver capable of consistently winning in the short and intermediate areas of the field and Greg Roman hasn’t been able to adjust to the way defenses are playing Baltimore’s pass game.

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    Originally Posted by AWSbruh View Post
    Nah he is horrible everywhere on the field. Ravens are 2nd to last in passing yards per game
    Ravens have also had some big leads in all but the Chiefs game, and are naturally not a pass heavy team. Its by design that the passing yards are low
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    Originally Posted by mike2k14 View Post
    Lamar Jackson has gone from the NFL’s most productive quarterback in Empty formations in 2019 (53.0 total EPA) to the league’s least productive quarterback in Empty 2020 (-11.5 total EPA), per Sports Info Soltuons. When you subtract those plays from his stat line, his 2019 and 2020 are basically identical…

    Defenses seem to be blitzing more when the Ravens empty out the backfield and Lamar just hasn’t reacted well in the face of that pressure. It appears he’s pressing a little too much. Instead of taking easy options underneath, he’s going straight into scramble mode and looking to get outside the pocket.

    And last year, Lamar was one of the league’s best quarterbacks against the blitz overall, earning an 86.0 grade from PFF on those plays.

    This year, it’s been a combination of factors leading to the bad results out of Empty: Lamar is pressing a bit too much, the Ravens lack a receiver capable of consistently winning in the short and intermediate areas of the field and Greg Roman hasn’t been able to adjust to the way defenses are playing Baltimore’s pass game.

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    I noticed that hes definitely scrambing and moving back in the pocket too much. The interior oline has been horrible with Yanda gone though so that has played a part
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    Originally Posted by mike2k14 View Post
    Lamar Jackson has gone from the NFL’s most productive quarterback in Empty formations in 2019 (53.0 total EPA) to the league’s least productive quarterback in Empty 2020 (-11.5 total EPA), per Sports Info Soltuons. When you subtract those plays from his stat line, his 2019 and 2020 are basically identical…

    Defenses seem to be blitzing more when the Ravens empty out the backfield and Lamar just hasn’t reacted well in the face of that pressure. It appears he’s pressing a little too much. Instead of taking easy options underneath, he’s going straight into scramble mode and looking to get outside the pocket.

    And last year, Lamar was one of the league’s best quarterbacks against the blitz overall, earning an 86.0 grade from PFF on those plays.

    This year, it’s been a combination of factors leading to the bad results out of Empty: Lamar is pressing a bit too much, the Ravens lack a receiver capable of consistently winning in the short and intermediate areas of the field and Greg Roman hasn’t been able to adjust to the way defenses are playing Baltimore’s pass game.

    https://ftw.usatoday.com/2020/10/bal...kson-analysis/
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    Originally Posted by 1hardgainer View Post
    But who was Kyler Murray? Fun to watch though and I'm rooting for the kid, but he's looking like a poor man's Michael Vick. Big win for them last night but his passing is terrible.
    What? Seriously? The kid the sling the football around. He's a midget but his passing isn't as bad as you make it out to be. His passes have some zip to them. Form isn't bad either.
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    The Chiefs game said all you need to know about Lamar as an actual QB.

    If he's down big and actually has to start throwing the ball, his flaws get exposed. Once he starts losing a bit of his athleticism its over for him
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    That weird side arm motion does him no favors. But at the same time, the Ravens are hurting his ability to grow as a thrower. Same as Kyler. Both throw like toddlers because they aren't being coached to throw the ball. They're run first QBs. They will never be like Cam "British Broadcasting" Newton or Russel Wilson if they're never forced to throw the ball more than run.
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    LJ’s biggest flaw is not his arm. He can make most throws. He’s a Mental Midget. Dumb as phuck.
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    What? Seriously? The kid the sling the football around. He's a midget but his passing isn't as bad as you make it out to be. His passes have some zip to them. Form isn't bad either.

    Maybe I'm putting too much emphasis on his Mon. night game where he completed 9 of 24 passes for 188 yds. And take away the big 80 yd. td pass and his stats would look that much worse (and even that throw was slightly off and more credit should be given to Kirk for that incredible athleticism and effort). But what's more disturbing is that he already has 6 picks this season.
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