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    Originally Posted by ChazWood View Post
    According to a reasonably objective analysis, he's fulfilled 24% of his campaign promises.

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    Not sure how that rates against previous Presidents, but 24% doesn't sound particularly good to me.

    If you want to offer any alternative data to these stats, please provide your sources ownership and funding details.

    Your not counting the amount of time he has spent wrapped up in BS the left tried to bring him down with, that alone was more than any president has had to deal with, so as long as he fulfilled one thing is one than any other could do.

    They had 60 different ways to get him according to Chuckie Shoemaker, they failed every time.

    Btw the wall is about fulfilled, Obama care slaughterd, ISIS, they haven’t poked their heads out for awhile, Wall Street up, interest lowest ever.

    Unfortunately COVID was attempt 59 to try and take him down, he beat that one too!

    What else you got?
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    Originally Posted by induced_drag View Post
    Guess this never happened. Went from no I have never met them, to "official meeting never happened", now the statement is 'couldn't rule out that a meeting may have happened'

    And the funny part is none except FOX and Post running story. Twitter, FB blocking content, link sharing...etc.

    This is really getting crazy.

    Computer store owner says they have emails from Bidens attorney asking for laptop back. If it is fake info from the russians, why have they requested it's return.

    Really insane to me the 3 years of hearing evey crack pot Russian conspiracy with Trump/Russia connection, but the media wont cover this.

    You have to admit, this is a little more than just fishy....

    I think these are just conspiracy theories and Kremlin created falsehoods. (Major sarcasm) I posted an article from about a year ago in American Thinker linking a major Republican player to this scandal, which folks in the know have know about for years. Literally years!

    Anyways, keep fighting the good fight. 2 weeks from today is our time frame to matter where it counts.
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    Originally Posted by KeepItMoving View Post
    I think these are just conspiracy theories and Kremlin created falsehoods. (Major sarcasm) I posted an article from about a year ago in American Thinker linking a major Republican player to this scandal, which folks in the know have know about for years. Literally years!

    Anyways, keep fighting the good fight. 2 weeks from today is our time frame to matter where it counts.
    Yea, I believe Bidens exact quote when he was cornered and forced to answer was "I never spoke to my son about his business".

    At what point can the mainstream media still ignore this story and claim it is a Russian disinformation campaign? It would be funny if you did not realize how corrupt it was. And I would feel this way about either side. In the end, the truth is the truth...good or bad. But I never thought the media would dare go the these lengths showing bias. I mean, this is just nuts!

    Oh yea...this little nugget. FBI confirms they have laptop, emails are real and this is NOT part of a Russian campaign. What is the media going to say now as they have yet to cover any aspect of this story other than to say Trump has been spreading false information about Biden's son..... What is the headline now?
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    As all this comes out, we should now realize why Joey is really running for president.

    Without the big guy in power, Joey’s boy may end up MIA with the questionable dealings he’s involved with.

    What ya say El? The son in over his head??? Daddy gotta keep someone from whacking him out?

    Can you even go there?
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    When the FBI was still the FBI. Politics. Was one of the main rules for the bouerro. You can find video after video of hoover. Saying what seperates the FBI and makes them the best and. Will keep them tthe best was ZERO POLITICAL INFLUENCE. ..and he turned it into. The best and most admired in the whole world. . 43 years of his life it took and its been pissed away
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    Originally Posted by latverian41 View Post
    When the FBI was still the FBI. Politics. Was one of the main rules for the bouerro. You can find video after video of hoover. Saying what seperates the FBI and makes them the best and. Will keep them tthe best was ZERO POLITICAL INFLUENCE. ..and he turned it into. The best and most admired in the whole world. . 43 years of his life it took and its been pissed away
    FBI, IRS, CIA, EPA, et seq. have all been politically weaponized
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    Originally Posted by KeepItMoving View Post
    FBI, IRS, CIA, EPA, et seq. have all been politically weaponized
    As are social media. The way most people get their news.

    Former Twitter executive suggesting that he feels it would be good to MUTE Trumps twitter until after the election. (srs)

    See 3:14 of vid.

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    Originally Posted by induced_drag View Post
    As are social media. The way most people get their news.

    Former Twitter executive suggesting that he feels it would be good to MUTE Trumps twitter until after the election. (srs)

    See 3:14 of vid.

    This should concern the vast majority of us, regardless of age, race, sex, sexual proclivities, and whatever else they use to separate us.
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    Originally Posted by induced_drag View Post
    <<Snip>>

    You have to admit, this is a little more than just fishy....
    I don't know anything about Hunter except what is currently out there. If hes a crook arrest him, IDC. I'm not tied to any political side. I find it convenient that 2+ weeks until election this is the narrative. Smells like desperation and w/no FBI Director there to save Trump this time, a last Hail Mary.

    Let me know when a single charge is filed for any of the crazy accusations that the Trump admin has thrown out there. "LOCK HER UP", "OBAMAGATE", ect ect...

    I do notice how Trump supporters continue to ignore the list of people who've been charged/arrested/jailed that worked in the campaign or for/around Trump.

    Oh and who's been trying to dig up dirt to save Trump? Rudy? This Rudy?

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    Originally Posted by Jtbny View Post
    Let me know when a single charge is filed for any of the crazy accusations that the Trump admin has thrown out there.

    I do notice how Trump supporters continue to ignore the list of people who've been charged/arrested/jailed that worked in the campaign or for/around Trump.

    Oh and who's been trying to dig up dirt to save Trump? Rudy? This Rudy?
    But, but......the laptops man! What about the laptops? The timing of this BS is so freaking predictable. Can't wait to see who AG Barr assigns as Special Counsel.....maybe Scooby Doo.
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    Originally Posted by Jtbny View Post

    I do notice how Trump supporters continue to ignore the list of people who've been charged/arrested/jailed that worked in the campaign or for/around Trump.
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    No one is ignoring, but there’s nothing there at all????? Where’s the crimes?

    You should be concerned, as I said before, They played dirty first with those BS arrests.

    And you should also be concerned with big tech, did you know that if you work for big tech in San Fran and moved out of the city because you now work remote, they are gonna cut wages, wtf, since when was it right for your boss to decide and dictate your pay based on how you are living? Oh they found a way to save too much money now, let’s stop them, btw they have any house anywhere they wish.

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    Originally Posted by KeepItMoving View Post
    This should concern the vast majority of us, regardless of age, race, sex, sexual proclivities, and whatever else they use to separate us.
    MAGA love to play the victim.

    BTW never watched this show but after watching this clip in its entirety it does explain a lot about the misinformation being spread. Both sides need to get away from CNN and FOX News as their primary news sources, IMO.

    1:24 - Joe Biden is "supposedly" at his place in Delaware preparing to go forward. WTF does that even mean? Dude trys to make it sound nefarious that he's "supposedly" there like hes not, or hes lying.
    1:27 - Internal polling. Fuking laughable...She goes right into propaganda mode. Cool softball thrown to her though.
    3:02 - They start talking about how they (Twitter) admitted it alluding to something that HAS happened, except, its an opinion of a FORMER Twitter exec who's talking about something that hasn't even happened.
    They're actually even admitting it, this is a former Twitter exec admitting he THINKS President Trump should just be muted
    FFS...
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    Originally Posted by Jtbny View Post
    Let me know when a single charge is filed for any of the crazy accusations that the Trump admin has thrown out there. "
    I do notice how Trump supporters continue to ignore the list of people who've been charged/arrested/jailed that worked in the campaign or for/around Trump.

    Oh and who's been trying to dig up dirt to save Trump? Rudy? This Rudy?
    You realize that the list of people coming out of Muller were for totally unrelated things....like tax laws, or 'lying to a federal agent', (which is why it is dangerous to make any statement to the FBI).

    You can argue that if you did forensic accounting on all of Washington, my guess is more than 50% would be guilty of some wrong doing.

    The list of those indicted out of the Muller had ZERO to do with elections, or anything to do with Russia. There were just as many from the other side of the isle that got indicted on unrelated charges also.

    And why do I care if Rudy did anything? If it is Rudy, the girl is not a minor (like it is purported to be on Hunters laptop) He is not part of any office that I know of. Rudy simply had info, which FBI has verified was Hunter Bidens, and also along with Director of National intelligence have BOTH confirmed that this is not part of a Russian dis-information campaign.


    I dont understand your statement at all. The equivocation is not even in the same ballpark.

    SRS question. How many stories has the media run on Trump only citing 'anonymous sources'. AND run them as HEADLINES, Recently the story about not vising graves of dead soldiers and the "losers" comment. EVERY major network, for several evenings ran the story.

    But a laptop, now verified by FBI, with Pics of Biden with the business partners he claims he has never talked to his son about, and even emails referencing a 10% equity stake for the "Big Guy" to be held by Hunter.... This does not even deserve a mention?

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    Originally Posted by Jtbny View Post
    MAGA love to play the victim.

    BTW never watched this show but after watching this clip in its entirety it does explain a lot about the misinformation being spread. Both sides need to get away from CNN and FOX News as their primary news sources, IMO.

    1:24 - Joe Biden is "supposedly" at his place in Delaware preparing to go forward. WTF does that even mean? Dude trys to make it sound nefarious that he's "supposedly" there like hes not, or hes lying.
    1:27 - Internal polling. Fuking laughable...She goes right into propaganda mode. Cool softball thrown to her though.
    3:02 - They start talking about how they (Twitter) admitted it alluding to something that HAS happened, except, its an opinion of a FORMER Twitter exec who's talking about something that hasn't even happened.


    FFS...
    Regardless of the Fox segment.

    How can you explain censoring or banning

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    Many associates of WH
    WH Press sect
    ANYONE who try to post link to twitter of FB post on subject


    You dont think there is any wrong -doing?
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    Originally Posted by induced_drag View Post
    You realize that the list of people coming out of Muller were for totally unrelated things....like tax laws, or 'lying to a federal agent', (which is why it is dangerous to make any statement to the FBI).
    Oh so that's all Ok. Now lets do the people accused of crimes by Trump. How many have been charged/convicted for ANYTHING. None, thats how many. But maybe because of the deep dark state protecting them./rolleyes

    You can argue that if you did forensic accounting on all of Washington, my guess is more than 50% would be guilty of some wrong doing.
    You're attempting to move the goal post. Lets stay with this. (But I agree).

    The list of those indagated out of the Muller had ZERO to do with elections, or anything to do with Russia. There were just as many from the other side of the isle that got indicted on unrelated charges also.
    See Roger Stone for example.

    "Stone was found guilty of obstruction of a congressional investigation, five counts of making false statements to Congress, and tampering with a witness.”

    All of the charges stemmed from Stone’s attempts to thwart the House intelligence committee’s investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election."

    And why do I care if Rudy did anything? If it is Rudy, the girl is not a minor (like it is purported to be on Hunters laptop) He is not part of any office that I know of. Rudy simply had info, which FBI has verified was Hunter Bidens, and also along with Director of National intelligence have BOTH confirmed that this is not part of a Russian dis-information campaign.
    Because it once again calls into question Rudys character? I know you don't care - that's the point. You guys continue to ignore or make excuses for behavior whether it's criminal or sleezy (Stormy for example) while clutching pearls over every little thing the other side does. This might turn out to be damning or be a nothing burger, like the Hunter thing. But since we are throwing out last minute Hail Marys here ya go.


    I dont understand your statement at all. The equivocation is not even in the same ballpark.
    Lost me here?

    SRS question. How many stories has the media run on Trump only citing 'anonymous sources'. AND run them as HEADLINES, Recently the story about not vising graves of dead soldiers and the "losers" comment. EVERY major network, for several evenings ran the story.
    I thought the "many people are saying" source was good enough for you guys?

    I watched the Ukraine hearings and found the witnesses to be very credible. I also think there was a quid pro quo to find dirt on Biden and its been even more evident these last few weeks. It's literally the narrative now.

    But a laptop, now verified by FBI, with Pics of Biden with the business partners he claims he has never talked to his son about, and even emails referencing a 10% equity stake for the "Big Guy" to be held by Hunter.... This does not even deserve a mention?
    Ok, lets see whats on it. I'm all for it. If it somehow shows Joe is involved in some shady shti lets see. But please stop pretending Trump is a fuken saint. I don't like Biden or much about the extreme left or how the moderate left wants to govern. I just want people to stop acting like Trump is the victim and can do no wrong. Hes a con man and you all are his marks.

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    Regardless of the Fox segment.

    How can you explain censoring or banning

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    You dont think there is any wrong -doing?
    How can I explain something that hasn't happened? You serious? That's what this clip was supposed to show, right? Trumps account being muted and Twitter admitting it? Except that's not what the clip says, at all.

    I've already said I don't think ANYONE should be banned/deplatformed. I think Alex Jones should be allowed back on too. I also think Twitter has a right to remove or flag known disinformation. How do you parse letting businesses run their business without government interference with complaints that they do it?
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    Originally Posted by Jtbny View Post
    How can I explain something that hasn't happened? You serious? That's what this clip was supposed to show, right? Trumps account being muted and Twitter admitting it? Except that's not what the clip says, at all.

    I've already said I don't think ANYONE should be banned/deplatformed. I think Alex Jones should be allowed back on too. I also think Twitter has a right to remove or flag known disinformation. How do you parse letting businesses run their business without government interference with complaints that they do it?
    The above (including your last response prior)

    I am not defending anything. I dislike most all career politicians. I think Trump has upset people on BOTH sides in that regard. I think Washington as a whole is so corrupted.

    I dont want to get into some crazy debate, but I have been following this 'story' since it first broke. And yes, twitter and FB have been banning and censoring left and right. You probably have not been following it. (which is OK and then I can understand you might think it is a couple isolated instances) It was not and is not. It is really crazy and shocking.

    All things aside, I have never seen bias like this before. And in this day and age where so many rely on tech for info, it is downright dangerous.

    I am not 'blind' to any candidate. EG, I wont argue the 'set up' behind the Cohen pic of Rudy. Some have said the woman pulled his shirt out and he was tucking it back in on the bed. Who knows? But to me it is funny more news is running that story, than the absent one which might be far more important to this country.

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    Originally Posted by induced_drag View Post
    The above (including your last response prior)

    I am not defending anything. I dislike most all career politicians. I think Trump has upset people on BOTH sides in that regard. I think Washington as a whole is so corrupted.

    I dont want to get into some crazy debate, but I have been following this 'story' since it first broke. And yes, twitter and FB have been banning and censoring left and right. You probably have not been following it. (which is OK and then I can understand you might think it is a couple isolated instances) It was not and is not. It is really crazy and shocking.

    All things aside, I have never seen bias like this before. And in this day and age where so many rely on tech for info, it is downright dangerous.

    I am not 'blind' to any candidate. EG, I wont argue the 'set up' behind the Cohen pic of Rudy. Some have said the woman pulled his shirt out and he was tucking it back in on the bed. Who knows? But to me it is funny more news is running that story, than the absent one which might be far more important to this country.

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    TBH I'm hoping this election flushes out many of the lifers. If Trump being in office sparks that trend then I'm all for that at least.

    Also, FWIW please don't ever take what I say as a personal affront. This is all just banter to pass some free time I actually like you and you always have thoughtful responses which I appreciate. Ask some of our mutual friends I'm sure they'd tell you I'm not that much of a dik IRL.
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    Originally Posted by Jtbny View Post
    The only thing I follow on Twitter is Trumps tweets (mainly because of the market), Mitch, Nancy, my local rep Katco, my Senators, my Governor, and a bunch of sports stuff. I don't follow any news outlets and get most of my news from Rogan I do question everything I can though and if I hear something or read it here or other places I visit I look for many sources.

    TBH I'm hoping this election flushes out many of the lifers. If Trump being in office sparks that trend then I'm all for that at least.

    Also, FWIW please don't ever take what I say as a personal affront. This is all just banter to pass some free time I actually like you and you always have thoughtful responses which I appreciate. Ask some of our mutual friends I'm sure they'd tell you I'm not that much of a dik IRL.

    Didn't think you were. I don't support any side unilaterally. I would vote 3rd party libertarian but it is a wasted vote so red is a default since economic issues are my largest issues.


    I just can't stand when people gloat over something and completely ignore when their side does the same exact thing. I always look behind all the issues and headlines regardless of the source that comes from.


    My biggest gripe here is mainstream media completely ignoring this story which has now been substantiated by the FBI. Prior to that they're only stories were that Rudy had a laptop containing Russian disinformation.

    I swear to God I checked the major news feeds and more of them are carrying stories about Rudy Giuliani getting set up in Cohen's new movie then have even touched on the Biden story yet which is over a week old. It's really scary....
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    You guys spend an incredible amount of energy arguing about politics. Clearly some of you have immersed yourself completely in it. I cannot help but be absolutely certain that you would be immeasurably happier if you focused on something, anything really, more constructive than digging up information in order to argue with total strangers on the internet.

    No way in hell you guys are going to convince anyone that a walk, or a few minutes with your dog, or a game of backgammon would not be 1000 times better for you than spending your days in a rage because some random guy on a bodybuilding website doesn't hate the same person you hate.
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    Originally Posted by eomrat View Post
    You guys spend an incredible amount of energy arguing about politics. Clearly some of you have immersed yourself completely in it. I cannot help but be absolutely certain that you would be immeasurably happier if you focused on something, anything really, more constructive than digging up information in order to argue with total strangers on the internet.

    No way in hell you guys are going to convince anyone that a walk, or a few minutes with your dog, or a game of backgammon would not be 1000 times better for you than spending your days in a rage because some random guy on a bodybuilding website doesn't hate the same person you hate.
    Ok that was the best thing i read all day, thanks, maybe i am getting older.

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    Ok that was the best thing i read all day, thanks,
    Back on topic, so my new gym has the old pullover machine and boy oh boy does that thing work well..... i had forgotten just how well.
    Well lucky you, some people in the country right now have no gym at all because of these *******s like Biden, if you vote Biden then you vote for suffocation while training because of stupid masks or you vote for a shutdown of gyms.

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    I'm surprised no one has mentioned the child porn on Hunter's laptop yet.

    If the access given to the Ukranian oil company board didn't do it for you, surely this might? Probably not. But it clearly runs in the family...
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    Originally Posted by _zman View Post
    I'm surprised no one has mentioned the child porn on Hunter's laptop yet.

    If the access given to the Ukranian oil company board didn't do it for you, surely this might? Probably not. But it clearly runs in the family...

    There is a video that I saw which was posted two and a half months ago in Chinese that a Chinese news authority had done an expose on this whole issue. You can confirm the dates and when it was updated but it was talking about the laptop the child pron and the connection with Joe Biden. Some have speculated that the Chinese government may have been bribing him and it is said that they are in possession of an additional laptop.

    Again that could be pure speculation but the video was published over 2 months ago and they were talking about things that are on the hard drive that have come to be released. How they would know this over two and a half months ago without having another copy of the hard drive no one knows.


    The really bad rumors are right now that the The majority of the child pron ( had to misspell to get past the censor)on the laptop is with his 14-year-old niece. There are even released text messages where Hunter is talking to his dad saying that they don't want her around him because he has had zoom calls with her while he's naked. So Joe Biden has been aware of this also to what degree we may come to find out....

    Rudy is promising another big drop tomorrow. The media is still ignoring it. they say she is dropping things daily to make it eventually to the point where they can't ignore the story and we'll have to run some of it
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    Originally Posted by induced_drag View Post
    Rudy is promising another big drop tomorrow.
    It's good that he's regular, but really that's something he really should be keeping to hisself, I mean seriously.

    The dude has "lost the bleeding plot" as the Brits say.
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    But, but......the laptops man! What about the laptops? The timing of this BS is so freaking predictable. Can't wait to see who AG Barr assigns as Special Counsel.....maybe Scooby Doo.
    I really don't have a stake in this as a bipartisan detractor of both parties, but I have to shake my head and laugh at Rudy. I don't know how anyone can find him credible when a couple of days before the last election he was on Fox News making claims that some arrests were about to be made due to the Clinton email scandal and/or pizzagate.
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    This will not be a surprise to anyone but I support Trump however I despise Rudy and wish he would just crawl back into his fukkin hole and die, same with Newt Gingrich...go the fuk away.
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    my new gym has the old pullover machine and boy oh boy does that thing work well..... i had forgotten just how well.
    If I lived in the DC area, I would try to be a member at this gym. The owner has done his homework on equipment choices, he just needs a better building. And yes, I think that he has a Nautilus plate load pullover.

    https://www.instagram.com/dmv_iron_gym/
    Last edited by deadwoodgregg; 10-22-2020 at 05:10 AM.
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