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    Originally Posted by gbullock32 View Post
    Still tempted to snag a P320 myself, but the Glock fanboy in me would die a little. Maybe next year though, spent a lot on guns this year and the main appeal to me for the sig is the ability to stitch the lower, other than that not much I generally prefer.
    They are legit. I refused to get one. Thought they looked retarded. Finally got one just for fun and it shoots so good.

    Really, they are all pretty similar and it’ll come down to small preferences between whatever but I’m on board with the sigs.

    M&Ps are awesome too though. Only think I don’t like is the grip texture for carry and the hinged triggers and how it’s a pain in the ass to change them.
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    Originally Posted by Igmann View Post
    We always come to this conclusion anytime we discuss pistols ITT. Literally going back 8 years, every time.
    It's not as clear cut as it used to be.

    Most of those years, there did not exist a legit competitor to the G19. Until recently, not one single other gun had the G19's combination of barrel length, sight radius, capacity, and exterior dimensions. Everybody else either held fewer, had a shorter barrel, or was physically larger and harder to conceal. And that's to make no mention of the super low Glock bore axis.

    But not anymore. S&W has their own G19 now. That's what the M2.0 Compact 9mm 4" is. It's a better G19. Because it's a carbon copy of the G19 in overall dimensions, same 4" barrel, same 15+1 capacity, same super low bore axis, but with a better grip texture and ability to disassemble without dry firing.

    The S&W G19 (lol) does everything the Glock does, and more, with its superior grip texture and ease of installing the best striker trigger in the game courtesy of Apex

    Originally Posted by gbullock32 View Post
    Still surprises me the military went with Sig over Glock, I figured since Glock was already widely used by Law Enforcement with a great track record it would have been a more obvious choice.
    The military openly decided not to test for the best pistol because Sig basically bribed them into cutting trials short and just taking the Sig with an offer they couldn't refuse

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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    It's not as clear cut as it used to be.

    Most of those years, there did not exist a legit competitor to the G19. Until recently, not one single other gun had the G19's combination of barrel length, sight radius, capacity, and exterior dimensions. Everybody else either held fewer, had a shorter barrel, or was physically larger and harder to conceal. And that's to make no mention of the super low Glock bore axis.

    But not anymore. S&W has their own G19 now. That's what the M2.0 Compact 9mm 4" is. It's a better G19. Because it's a carbon copy of the G19 in overall dimensions, same 4" barrel, same 15+1 capacity, same super low bore axis, but with a better grip texture and ability to disassemble without dry firing.

    The S&W G19 (lol) does everything the Glock does, and more, with its superior grip texture and ease of installing the best striker trigger in the game courtesy of Apex



    The military openly decided not to test for the best pistol because Sig basically bribed them into cutting trials short and just taking the Sig with an offer they couldn't refuse
    Feels when I cannot alter the internals of my G 19, only the sights and grip, or it voids my CCW permit through work.
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    Originally Posted by 4ea View Post
    quality, reliable and affordable.

    IMO you cant do better than Glock. maybe other pistols are as good, but none are better. most other comparable options are more expensive too
    idk I can't shoot glock well, trigger + ergonomics just don't do it for me. Best striker fired pistola I've ever shot is the VP9 so that's what I own.


    Best pistol in general though has gotta be the FNX .45 for me, reliable even with a can on it and super accurate/easy to shoot, soft recoil

    I'm getting a staccato c2 2011 shortly though, that might kick the fnx out of the top spot.
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    Originally Posted by iifymbro View Post
    idk I can't shoot glock well, trigger + ergonomics just don't do it for me. Best striker fired pistola I've ever shot is the VP9 so that's what I own.


    Best pistol in general though has gotta be the FNX .45 for me, reliable even with a can on it and super accurate/easy to shoot, soft recoil

    I'm getting a staccato c2 2011 shortly though, that might kick the fnx out of the top spot.
    I think 'dragging wood' is one of the Glock things. The ergos don't give a lot of people a clean trigger finger reach.

    VP9 still shoots the most accurately and true for me, just the bore axis keeps it from being the best on the clock, or one handed at speed

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    Lol bore axis
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    Originally Posted by CdtCox View Post
    Lol bore axis
    shhh, people who know how to shoot handguns are speaking. You and fishn can have your own little sidebar with linux

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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    shhh, people who know how to shoot handguns are speaking. You and fishn can have your own little sidebar with linux
    You suck at shooting
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    Originally Posted by CdtCox View Post
    You suck at shooting
    You suck at trolling lol

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    You suck at trolling lol
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    It's not as clear cut as it used to be.

    Most of those years, there did not exist a legit competitor to the G19. Until recently, not one single other gun had the G19's combination of barrel length, sight radius, capacity, and exterior dimensions. Everybody else either held fewer, had a shorter barrel, or was physically larger and harder to conceal. And that's to make no mention of the super low Glock bore axis.
    This is where the Glock really beats the VP9. Allows for a super high grip too. The lower the bore axis the better, especially single hand shooting.

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    When it comes to weapon mounted lights, do you guys look for pressure pads that have an "always on" function, or only pressure function?
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    Originally Posted by JUGGERNAUT1333 View Post
    When it comes to weapon mounted lights, do you guys look for pressure pads that have an "always on" function, or only pressure function?
    I like an always on option, but I like choices.
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    shhh, people who know how to shoot handguns are speaking. You and fishn can have your own little sidebar with linux
    handguns are for quakers.

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    I like an always on option, but I like choices.
    Anything outside Surefire you like? I need to grab two, and do not feel like dropping $600+ on two lights.
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    Originally Posted by JUGGERNAUT1333 View Post
    Anything outside Surefire you like? I need to grab two, and do not feel like dropping $600+ on two lights.
    Sureire is fine enough for a budget light, I like Modlite more but they are a bit pricier.
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    I don't see a clear path. It's hard to understand what is happening if you don't have an over view of the entire process. There should be some sort of truth data in the software for auditing that recounts should align with, but if they managed to adjust ballots into an acceptable range of error with the data from the machines then we're stuck speculating as to why software would switch votes erroneously. We need an analysis of the voting software and testing to see what conditions cause what we saw. Until Trump has a team that can prove either: a) Software swayed the election or b) illegal ballots did or c) combination of both then we're out of luck.

    I'm not saying there's not evidence, but Trump isn't presenting it. This leads me to believe either most of it is not credible or his team ( or legal system) is incompetent in investigating this matter. Honestly I'd believe its the latter considering tech issues are hard for lawyers to resolve in the court room. It will be one side's experts arguing against the other side's experts, which as you can see, is enough to muddy the waters. Our entire country has pockets of activist experts willing to pull for their side, and academia/law is primarily left leaning. In that case, I can see why Giuliani would rather attack the process than the tools. Too bad the tools are just as much a part of the process.

    They will need to setup a demo voting center and show that the machines can change votes, or show that the votes can be changed after collection. After that, they will have to prove why the ballot totals match the audit, since I'm pretty sure the dems would have switched ballots as well. It has to be a two pronged attack. IMO that's why its so important to prove that accounting and attribution of ballots was lost at some point in the process to avoid dealing with an audit matching the machines. We need to show that we can't rely on existing ballots as truth data in an audit, and that the machines are susceptible to manipulation. Only issue is, if we do that then the election has to be reran.
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    You suck at trolling lol

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    didn't MFC have a shooting competition once?
    Hell yeah we did... who was the champ???? You're lookin at him bud
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    didn't MFC have a shooting competition once?
    Several

    We quit because one or another person from Georgia always won

    And because very, very few in this thread

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    3. Own or are willing to spend money on shooting gear such as a shot timer
    4. Know they can't shoot and are scared to take and post video proving they did what they claim

    Also we used to have a strong contingent that was all in on the AK and thought it was better than an AR but wouldn't enter any competitions against AR's because it wasn't fair because the AR is too good and would always win

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    Only winner I can think of that wasn't in Georgia lol

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    I'm sure this has be discussed a million times but the search function is pretty much non-existent

    Looking to spend around $500 on a red dot and I came down to the Aimpoint Patrol or the Trijicon MRO. Which one would you choose? Didn't really look into Eotech but do they make an optic around that price?

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    Originally Posted by GooBaaa View Post
    I'm sure this has be discussed a million times but the search function is pretty much non-existent

    Looking to spend around $500 on a red dot and I came down to the Aimpoint Patrol or the Trijicon MRO. Which one would you choose?
    Either one.

    I own both.

    If I could clone a duplicate of one of them by snapping my fingers, it would probably be the MRO due to size.

    My inclination is to think the PRO is more robust and tough, but, that may or may not be the case and both are considered proven

    I like that the MRO has numbers for its brightness setting and has an off position in between partway up so you don't have to click all the way from the beginning + you get an easy visual reference for which setting it's on. As I don't leave my MRO equipped firearm loaded and ready for immediate use, I notice this difference, as I do turn it off to put it 'away'

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