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    Yeah I think I'd agree with that. I'd rank the mounting system and backpressure properties above sound reduction for a dedicated 5.56 can

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    New administration wants to start taxing unrealized capital gains. In other words, you have $100 in stonks, they appreciate in value $5, you don't sell them, this new proposal states you would be taxed on that $5. If they depreciate, you're stuck holding the ****ing bag.

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    Originally Posted by criminal_manne View Post
    I’ve read not to chase dB reduction in a 5.56 can since it will never be hearing safe anyway. Not sure you want to make that a priority.

    KAC can for KAC rifle would be 10/10.
    agree.. i beleive the newer QDC KAC cans are almost impossible to find, at least they were last time I looked.
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    Originally Posted by criminal_manne View Post
    I’ve read not to chase dB reduction in a 5.56 can since it will never be hearing safe anyway. Not sure you want to make that a priority.

    KAC can for KAC rifle would be 10/10.
    I still suspect you're a troll, but this seems to be substantiated so now I'm not so sure.

    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Yeah I think I'd agree with that. I'd rank the mounting system and backpressure properties above sound reduction for a dedicated 5.56 can
    Shows how little I know. Probably should have mentioned I wouldn't plan to routinely run sub rounds.

    Weight is still a top priority, but I'll swap dB reduction with mounting and backpressure.
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    Related to convo a few pages back now, work vest. Left to right: 2 kydex holsters (fits MK9, OC blast grenade, or CS/CS ball grenades), whistle (actually a requirement to have on us at all times), key keepers, pens, double pistol mag pouch (fits Folger Adams keys perfectly), pouch (gloves, paperwork, generic crap I need), baton holster (under pouch), large carabineer for handcuffs (easier than pouch), radio holder, work gloves.




    Way better than wearing the vest under the shirt, gets too damn hot.
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    Originally Posted by CaliSuperSport View Post
    >Glock 43



    jk brah looks clean, I just never liked that pistol
    lol, not super ecstatic about the looks and def not a Glock fanboi, but figured I should give it a shot and would be able to resell for close to what I paid if I hate it. Only choices I had to pick up today were 43, p365 and S&W shield, may regret not buying the p365

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    Originally Posted by cullenmichael34 View Post
    lol, not super ecstatic about the looks and def not a Glock fanboi, but figured I should give it a shot and would be able to resell for close to what I paid if I hate it. Only choices I had to pick up today were 43, p365 and S&W shield, may regret not buying the p365
    i EDC a p365. the 43 would of been my second choice.
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    Originally Posted by Legendsneverdie View Post
    i EDC a p365 everyday. the 43 would of been my second choice.
    FUK, probably should have. The biggest thing was the safer (imo) trigger safety of the 43. Obv, mag capacity is the big con, and worse trigger pull

    Edit: had one shop tell me that they have 43k rounds through their Sig rental with no failures, but the one I was at said they had 2 striker failures on one of theirs, idk probably shouldn't have changed my mind because of that
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    Originally Posted by gbullock32 View Post
    That is something I need to upgrade sooner or later, still running steel plates, but used to the weight so meh. ~9 lbs per plate, I took out the side plates so only 18 lbs for it.

    Maybe new plates next month or so.
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    Way better than wearing the vest under the shirt, gets too damn hot.
    wow you're working in that and carrying around a ~30lb vest all day. As soon as I saw the weight difference between steel and ceramic, its a no-brainer. Steel isn't cheap anymore.

    Ceramic III+ is $240 for a pair of plates. The spalling of steel is going to put you out of the fight and seriously injured regardless of whether you can put up with the extra 15lbs IMO.

    Also, I've noticed that most steel plate manufacturers seem to use their own testing and claim conformity to NIJ standards. That's impossible. NIJ performs the testing and randomly inspects/tests units during manufacturing. If its not NIJ tested then its not NIJ certified.

    Just some observations I made today after making an impulse buy of steel plates in which the vendor is refusing to cancel the order despite their stated policy otherwise. I'm surprised by the lack of ethics in the body armor industry and their willingness to pedal critical products that simply cannot perform as they claim.
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    Originally Posted by cullenmichael34 View Post
    FUK, probably should have. The biggest thing was the safer (imo) trigger safety of the 43. Obv, mag capacity is the big con, and worse trigger pull

    Edit: had one shop tell me that they have 43k rounds through their Sig rental with no failures, but the one I was at said they had 2 striker failures on one of theirs, idk probably shouldn't have changed my mind because of that
    the new gen sig p365s are fine. I think the original p365s (first and second runs had some issues) as long as the build date on it is 2019+ your fine with a sig 365 (dont get the sig sas p365)
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    Originally Posted by rectifryer View Post
    wow you're working in that and carrying around a ~30lb vest all day. As soon as I saw the weight difference between steel and ceramic, its a no-brainer. Steel isn't cheap anymore.

    Ceramic III+ is $240 for a pair of plates. The spalling of steel is going to put you out of the fight and seriously injured regardless of whether you can put up with the extra 15lbs IMO.

    Also, I've noticed that most steel plate manufacturers seem to use their own testing and claim conformity to NIJ standards. That's impossible. NIJ performs the testing and randomly inspects/tests units during manufacturing. If its not NIJ tested then its not NIJ certified.

    Just some observations I made today after making an impulse buy of steel plates in which the vendor is refusing to cancel the order despite their stated policy otherwise. I'm surprised by the lack of ethics in the body armor industry and their willingness to pedal critical products that simply cannot perform as they claim.
    We don't have steel or ceramic plates, they are Safariland Spike 3 (stab vests), but with all equipment for my post it's about 20-23 lbs of sht I carry all day.

    I meant my personal vest (not for work) is steel.
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    Originally Posted by gbullock32 View Post
    We don't have steel or ceramic plates, they are Safariland Spike 3 (stab vests), but with all equipment for my post it's about 20-23 lbs of sht I carry all day.

    I meant my personal vest (not for work) is steel.
    oooooohhhh that makes more sense.
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    New administration wants to start taxing unrealized capital gains. In other words, you have $100 in stonks, they appreciate in value $5, you don't sell them, this new proposal states you would be taxed on that $5. If they depreciate, you're stuck holding the ****ing bag.

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    how tf would 401ks work?

    That would single handedly destroy america srs
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    how tf would 401ks work?

    That would single handedly destroy america srs
    Gotta pay for the reparations and student loan bailouts somehow. What better way then reducing everyone to poverty.

    Guess my retirement is fcked.
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    lets try this again, are these good plates?

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    Originally Posted by rectifryer View Post
    lets try this again, are these good plates?

    https://www.bodyarmoroutlet.com/prod...31517900046402
    For the rice I'd say yes, doesn't look tested for multi hit, but let's be real, it would probably stop a few before failure assuming different impact spots. Also, don't think many people are shooting you with 30.06 AP rounds.

    Might just snag some too, put the steel aside finally.

    Edit: Noticed this one does not say it is certified by the NIJ in the description, only that it meets the standards.

    This one states it is NIJ certified.

    https://www.bodyarmoroutlet.com/coll...le-curve-10x12

    Found these too. https://rmadefense.com/product/level...odel-1155-set/

    Said fck it (again) and snagged 2 of the ones I linked, saves me about 2 pounds, and it has the same materials as the higher cost plates, ceramic and polyethylene. The ones you first linked are just ceramic.
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    Originally Posted by NuggzTheNinja View Post
    https://cryptonews.com/news/idea-of-...nting-8973.htm

    New administration wants to start taxing unrealized capital gains. In other words, you have $100 in stonks, they appreciate in value $5, you don't sell them, this new proposal states you would be taxed on that $5. If they depreciate, you're stuck holding the ****ing bag.

    Clown world.
    This is their strategy. Go super far left and then "meet in the middle" and suddenly the 50% capital gains seem reasonable. This has been the playbook for decades.

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    wow you're working in that and carrying around a ~30lb vest all day. As soon as I saw the weight difference between steel and ceramic, its a no-brainer. Steel isn't cheap anymore.

    Ceramic III+ is $240 for a pair of plates. The spalling of steel is going to put you out of the fight and seriously injured regardless of whether you can put up with the extra 15lbs IMO.

    Also, I've noticed that most steel plate manufacturers seem to use their own testing and claim conformity to NIJ standards. That's impossible. NIJ performs the testing and randomly inspects/tests units during manufacturing. If its not NIJ tested then its not NIJ certified.

    Just some observations I made today after making an impulse buy of steel plates in which the vendor is refusing to cancel the order despite their stated policy otherwise. I'm surprised by the lack of ethics in the body armor industry and their willingness to pedal critical products that simply cannot perform as they claim.
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    Originally Posted by NuggzTheNinja View Post
    https://cryptonews.com/news/idea-of-...nting-8973.htm

    New administration wants to start taxing unrealized capital gains. In other words, you have $100 in stonks, they appreciate in value $5, you don't sell them, this new proposal states you would be taxed on that $5. If they depreciate, you're stuck holding the ****ing bag.

    Clown world.

    I see they're wasting no time introducing all sorts of garbage
    the above post is not serious and is for entertainment purposes only.
    Thanks for your time.

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    I see they're wasting no time introducing all sorts of garbage
    This is what progress looks like.
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    Originally Posted by OfficerJimLahey View Post
    This is what progress looks like.
    I work in tax and that’s the dumbest idea I’ve ever read about. Can’t even imagine the shiet storm something like that would cause, not even remotely feasible imo.
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    That's how you set up "compromise"

    It's just like we know with gun control. They want to ban and confiscate everything, we don't want any Rights and Liberties infringed. So they "compromise" by taking some of our Rights and Liberties (giving nothing in return, only taking) and to some it seems 'better' because they didn't take everything all at once. Then, they do it again.

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    Originally Posted by RThoe View Post
    I still have some time before the move, but I want to start researching a 5.56 can. One of the first things I'll do once getting a new license will be purchasing an SR-15 lower and SBRing it. Will get an SR-15 CQB upper for it. I've shot a handful of suppressed rifles, but overall pretty ignorant. I imagine I'll mostly run the rifle suppressed and my top priorities are weight and dB reduction. This would be dedicated to 5.56 (and likely only on the SR-15).

    What would you guys go with and if there are any links/articles I can be pointed in for further research that would be sweet. Aesthetics are definitely a consideration but not the final decision maker. I have used two KAC suppressors in the past (I also love the aesthetics of the NT4, though I'm sure those are outdated now) and a couple others that I'm not sure of.
    I have no expertise to add but I did impulse "reserve" a YHM Turbo T2 yesterday. After doing some research post purchase it seems to be decent for the money ($405 and includes muzzle break for attachment), so I'm happy. First stamp purchase. Hopefully not too late.
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    Anyone who floats the idea of taxing unrealized capital gains has absolutely no business being in any sort of position dealing with finances. Wouldn't even trust someone that stupid to count money from Girl Scout cookie sales.
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    Originally Posted by SpeedCheeser View Post
    Anyone who floats the idea of taxing unrealized capital gains has absolutely no business being in any sort of position dealing with finances. Wouldn't even trust someone that stupid to count money from Girl Scout cookie sales.
    You're making the mistake of assuming that they don't know the second and third order effects. They do.

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    I still have some time before the move, but I want to start researching a 5.56 can. One of the first things I'll do once getting a new license will be purchasing an SR-15 lower and SBRing it. Will get an SR-15 CQB upper for it. I've shot a handful of suppressed rifles, but overall pretty ignorant. I imagine I'll mostly run the rifle suppressed and my top priorities are weight, mounting system, and back pressure properties. This would be dedicated to 5.56 (and likely only on the SR-15).

    What would you guys go with and if there are any links/articles I can be pointed in for further research that would be sweet. Aesthetics are definitely a consideration but not the final decision maker. I have used two KAC suppressors in the past (I also love the aesthetics of the NT4, though I'm sure those are outdated now) and a couple others that I'm not sure of.

    Originally Posted by spirit750 View Post
    I have no expertise to add but I did impulse "reserve" a YHM Turbo T2 yesterday. After doing some research post purchase it seems to be decent for the money ($405 and includes muzzle break for attachment), so I'm happy. First stamp purchase. Hopefully not too late.
    That’s really cheap. I guess I should mention I don’t really have a budget, but I’m not against saving a few bucks if it gets me what I want. How long are you expecting to wait?
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    If you paid with a credit card (which you should for all online purchases) try to do a chargeback if they’re refusing to cancel your order.
    They obliged, I believe it was some sort of miss-communication. Had to pay a restocking fee on an order that never got processed, but I'd pay that to get away from the steel plates tbh.

    Originally Posted by gbullock32 View Post
    For the rice I'd say yes, doesn't look tested for multi hit, but let's be real, it would probably stop a few before failure assuming different impact spots. Also, don't think many people are shooting you with 30.06 AP rounds.

    Might just snag some too, put the steel aside finally.

    Edit: Noticed this one does not say it is certified by the NIJ in the description, only that it meets the standards.

    This one states it is NIJ certified.

    https://www.bodyarmoroutlet.com/coll...le-curve-10x12

    Found these too. https://rmadefense.com/product/level...odel-1155-set/

    Said fck it (again) and snagged 2 of the ones I linked, saves me about 2 pounds, and it has the same materials as the higher cost plates, ceramic and polyethylene. The ones you first linked are just ceramic.
    That's exactly what I was looking for and I didn't think it was possible. Cert'd IV ceramic/polyethylene plates for the same price as steel, easy choice.
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