LeBron and MJ are tied as the GOATs

[Jaydawg08]

The fact that you have to make this thread answers your question

It's common knowledge and undisputed that MJ is the GOAT and no1 needs to make a thread about it.

Crazy stats about Jordan and why he's the GOAT




1.) Jordan already averaged 37 ppg in a 82 game season in a tough era.

2.) Jordan already averaged 40 point in 6 seperate nba playoff series

86' Celtics 43.7 ppg
88' Cavs 45.2 ppg
89' Cavs 40.0 ppg
90' 76ers 43.0 ppg
92' Heat 45.0 ppg
93' Suns 41.0 ppg

Hell is Career playoff ppg average from 1986 to 1991 was 37.4 ppg over a 5 year playoff runs.


3.) When MJ had his 37.1 ppg season this is how he averaged that total:










4.) If MJ actually cared about developing his shot or was in this era where the 3 point shot is the most important basket, MJ would of easily cracked 40 ppg because he is a great 3 point shooter which can be proven below:












And fun fact: MJ has more scoring titles in his career than any/every active NBA player. LOL at thinking that if harden or Giannis can't score 40 ppg MJ wouldn't either. MJ has higher Percentages than harden and it's not even funny.












MJ would easily crack 40 points and it's not even funny. MJ didn't even have a weakness in his game. Not one. GREATEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME AND IT'S NOT EVEN COMPARABLE.

IF MJ WAS IN TODAY'S GAME, MJ WOULD EASILY SHOOT MORE 3'S AND GET MORE CALLS WHEN HE DRIVES TO THE BASKET.

40-45+ PPG AND easY CHAMPionships and scoring titles

Your first mistake a comparing LeBron to MJ as a scorer because THEY LITERALLY ARENT EVEN YHE SAME TYPE OF PLAYER. LeBron is bigger faster stronger jumps higher shoots it better from 3, more efficient, more versatile as a defender, one of the greatest wing defenders in league history, greatest driver ever, ONE OF THE GREATEST PASSERS EVER, goat chase down blocker, rebounds better, is a more complete player, AND STILL WON A SCORING TITLE WHEN SCORING ISN'T HIS BEST ATTRIBUTE, for emphasis he averages more PPG than Durant, more clutch in the playoffs, greatest elimination game player ever, greatest close out game player ever, most playoff buzzer beaters


Jordan has midrange and free throws.... that's aboit it. He was awful from 3 UNTIL THEY MOVED THE 3 POINT LINE CLOSER then he was semi serviceable on NOT ALOT OF SHOTS

[Jaydawg08]

Did MJ cry foul like a bitch, every time someone bumped into him?

Yes he was widely known to complain to refs and Phil Jackson would routinely send tape tk league offices before games about things Jordan complained about

[GlassMoon]

feel like if lebron didnt enter mental midget mode at a decent rate wouldnt be even debatable...but ive only see mj highlights so cant really comment

[Jaydawg08]

Yeah, when he had been playing baseball for 2 years and came back in April. What’s Lebron’s excuse for his finals performance against the Mavericks?

And MJ didn’t form a super team, he was so good he made everyone better and willed a dynasty into existence. Lebron is a mercenary that goes to different teams every few years to give himself the best chance to win more rings—and saw a team he wasn’t on become a dynasty on his watch. Oh and lowest rated finals in history!

Wromg Krause was the greatest GM in the NBA and Phil and Tex winters had the greatest system for that time in NBA history, with the greatest rebounder of all time, the 2nd-4th best player at that time, 2 of the greatest 3point shooters at that time, and multiple enforcers and the best 6th man at that time

Just lmfao Jordan scored 55 at the Garden... HE WAS BACK

[SmashinYoungVag]

feel like if lebron didnt enter mental midget mode at a decent rate wouldnt be even debatable...but ive only see mj highlights so cant really comment

At the end of the day MJ won and Lebron made excuses.

MJ lost to pistons and said he needed to get stronger. Lebron quit against the Celtics mid series and ran down to join the 3rd best SG ever and arguably the best pf at the time.

[hobo4president]

The fact that you have to make this thread answers your question

It's common knowledge and undisputed that MJ is the GOAT and no1 needs to make a thread about it.

Crazy stats about Jordan and why he's the GOAT




1.) Jordan already averaged 37 ppg in a 82 game season in a tough era.

2.) Jordan already averaged 40 point in 6 seperate nba playoff series

86' Celtics 43.7 ppg
88' Cavs 45.2 ppg
89' Cavs 40.0 ppg
90' 76ers 43.0 ppg
92' Heat 45.0 ppg
93' Suns 41.0 ppg

Hell is Career playoff ppg average from 1986 to 1991 was 37.4 ppg over a 5 year playoff runs.


3.) When MJ had his 37.1 ppg season this is how he averaged that total:










4.) If MJ actually cared about developing his shot or was in this era where the 3 point shot is the most important basket, MJ would of easily cracked 40 ppg because he is a great 3 point shooter which can be proven below:












And fun fact: MJ has more scoring titles in his career than any/every active NBA player. LOL at thinking that if harden or Giannis can't score 40 ppg MJ wouldn't either. MJ has higher Percentages than harden and it's not even funny.












MJ would easily crack 40 points and it's not even funny. MJ didn't even have a weakness in his game. Not one. GREATEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME AND IT'S NOT EVEN COMPARABLE.

IF MJ WAS IN TODAY'S GAME, MJ WOULD EASILY SHOOT MORE 3'S AND GET MORE CALLS WHEN HE DRIVES TO THE BASKET.

40-45+ PPG AND easY CHAMPionships and scoring titles

FYI that 3p% was during the shortened 3-point line seasons.

[Ken-O]

Lebron James isnt a better basketball player than Jordan, and he will never be. If he could be a better player, he would have shown it already after almost 2 decades of playing, but he hasnt because he simply isnt and wont ever be a better player, or nowhere near as good.

Thats it. How many rings he wins is not an argument. His teammates, his teams, his coaches, the opposition, all of that plus millions of other factors influence who wins a championship and who doesnt, but doesnt change his individual ability and talent as a player. He can win 20 rings more or he cant win 0 more and wont change the fact that he simply isnt a better basketball player than Jordan nor he will ever come close.

[SPP1]

Lebron is the perfect champ for the participation trophy, whiner, crybaby generation.

[Jaydawg08]

At the end of the day MJ won and Lebron made excuses.

MJ lost to pistons and said he needed to get stronger. Lebron quit against the Celtics mid series and ran down to join the 3rd best SG ever and arguably the best pf at the time.

LeBron had 27/19/10 on the game he "quit".. listening too much to Skip Payless

[SmillironS]

Lebron is the perfect champ for the participation trophy, whiner, crybaby generation.

When you put it like this it makes perfect sense why OP feels the way he does.

[Jaydawg08]

MJ has been selected to 9 first team all defensive
Lebron james? Only 5

MJ has a defensive player of the year award
Lebron? Doesn't have one



What's your point here?

MJ was the best defensive player in the leaguye during the most tough and riduclous era
Lebron James doesn't even pay defense anymore.

Lebron jaes is a better passer great? so what?


And as far as your other arguments go they're all garbage.

MJ has more clutch game winning shots and fun fact hasn't played in any NBA Final game 7's because he doesn't need an extra game to win a series. In fact Through 13 postseason appearances MJ incurred a Game 7 just three times.

In 13 appearances MJ has won 6 titles.

in 17 appearances, LeCuck got 4 titles only



MJ is the better defender, scorer, more clutch, and a more winning player than LeCuck

Enjoy your L ****git

Forwards dominate this league nowadays and Jordan AND Kobe got votes alot of REPUTATION and due to guards being weak defenders in that era.

LeBron can guard 1-5... MJ CANNOT. He needed Pippen to cover up his mistakes alot of times. Team accomplishment also doesn't even make it better for you otherwise Russell is yhe GOAT, if not him then Kareem, if not him than...... LeBron!!


Also the league in the 00's were the toughest defensive era due to zone and illegal defense.. Jordan even admitted if he played in the 00's his career would be different

You're wrong on the clutch playoff game winners and even more wrong on clutch stats in the playoffs as LeBron takes and makes more on similar efficiency

Stay taking L's on a subject you know very little about lil boy

[SmashinYoungVag]

LeBron had 27/19/10 on the game he "quit".. listening too much to Skip Payless

How bout game 5? Ya know the game everyone points to when referencing him quitting when he found out the news

[Jaydawg08]

How bout game 5? Ya know the game everyone points to when referencing him quitting when he found out the news

Pretty sure that's the one I'm referring too

[8PointBuck]

low IQ people like OP so desperately want this to be true, lmfaooooo

lebron has a legitimate argument for top 10, nothing more. sorry

[SmashinYoungVag]

Pretty sure that's the one I'm referring too

He had 15 points. What year did you start watching the nba again

[havoc00]

Lebron isnt on the same planet, imagine if LB would have had to deal with the piston goons and the defense in the 90s he would be crying and prob get ran out of a locker room

[Jaydawg08]

He had 15 points. What year did you start watching the nba again

How do you quit on your team when you have ANOTHER FKN GAME WHERE I believe he dropped a 27 point triple double in a close out game AGAINST 4 HALL OF FAMERS

[hobo4president]

MJ was just a more impactful basketball player than Lebron which bears out in both the raw and advanced stats. I do find it really odd though how casuals worship Jordan like it's impossible to make a case for anyone being the GOAT over him, most of them tend to fall for 90s marketing and twitter pics and end up disrespecting all the other all time greats.

[Jaydawg08]

Lebron isnt on the same planet, imagine if LB would have had to deal with the piston goons and the defense in the 90s he would be crying and prob get ran out of a locker room

Lmfao LeBron is BIGGER THAN ANYONE ON THE Pistons.. his literally game can be classified as fkn BULLY BALL

You literally make no sense

[WeBoutDat]

The fact that you have to make this thread answers your question

It's common knowledge and undisputed that MJ is the GOAT and no1 needs to make a thread about it.

Crazy stats about Jordan and why he's the GOAT




1.) Jordan already averaged 37 ppg in a 82 game season in a tough era.

2.) Jordan already averaged 40 point in 6 seperate nba playoff series

86' Celtics 43.7 ppg
88' Cavs 45.2 ppg
89' Cavs 40.0 ppg
90' 76ers 43.0 ppg
92' Heat 45.0 ppg
93' Suns 41.0 ppg

Hell is Career playoff ppg average from 1986 to 1991 was 37.4 ppg over a 5 year playoff runs.


3.) When MJ had his 37.1 ppg season this is how he averaged that total:






4.) If MJ actually cared about developing his shot or was in this era where the 3 point shot is the most important basket, MJ would of easily cracked 40 ppg because he is a great 3 point shooter which can be proven below:












And fun fact: MJ has more scoring titles in his career than any/every active NBA player. LOL at thinking that if harden or Giannis can't score 40 ppg MJ wouldn't either. MJ has higher Percentages than harden and it's not even funny.












MJ would easily crack 40 points and it's not even funny. MJ didn't even have a weakness in his game. Not one. GREATEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME AND IT'S NOT EVEN COMPARABLE.

IF MJ WAS IN TODAY'S GAME, MJ WOULD EASILY SHOOT MORE 3'S AND GET MORE CALLS WHEN HE DRIVES TO THE BASKET.

40-45+ PPG AND easY CHAMPionships and scoring titles

Fookin wrekt. End of thread.

[SmashinYoungVag]

How do you quit on your team when you have ANOTHER FKN GAME WHERE I believe he dropped a 27 point triple double in a close out game AGAINST 4 HALL OF FAMERS

He found out his mom fukked delonte west and quit. And he didn’t give a fukk about game 6. Put up some empty stats. Not that they were that good.

[Jaydawg08]

Fookin wrekt. End of thread.

Already countered in my post after this where FREZKO PUT FAULTY INFO INCLUDING how the 3point line was CLOSER when Jordan finally hit a respectable percentage

[Jaydawg08]

He found out his mom fukked delonte west and quit. And he didn’t give a fukk about game 6. Put up some empty stats. Not that they were that good.

27 point triple double, including 19 rebounds (the ultimate hustle stat) when your 2nd best player was probably Jamison

Stay fkn dumb as hell brahs

[SmashinYoungVag]

27 point triple double, including 19 rebounds (the ultimate hustle stat) when your 2nd best player was probably Jamison

Stay fkn dumb as hell brahs

38% shooting 9 turnovers only 3 OFfensive boards. 1 more than 6 foot mo Williams lol

[YoungMetro24]

So is FrezKo gonna kill himself tonight?

[Droopdx]

Ahhh the 12 year old child debate about who the goat is again

[JPeeper]

LeBron has to form super teams to have a chance to win, Michael brought Chicago 6 titles.

lol @ anyone who thinks LeBron is anywhere close to Mike.

[Jaydawg08]

LeBron has to form super teams to have a chance to win, Michael brought Chicago 6 titles.

lol @ anyone who thinks LeBron is anywhere close to Mike.

How many rings did MJ win without Scottie?

How many did he win without Phil?


Hell how many playoff GAMES did he win without them

[wildchild11]

Mj doesnt hold a candle to lbj anymore. quit twice

[mcboo2]

I love the old school misc banter, but you Lebron stans don't even believe what you're saying anymore lol