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[imbored21]

Her age and ethnicity?

23 chinese

[Ninshark]

already posted pics of texts. Not posting pics of girl.

Okay update.

She was cute. We went to dinner and then she acted weird as **** and wouldn't even look me straight in the eye and I was just asking her questions and she was answering and didn't ask a single thing about me. Felt ugly as **** and thought she didn't give a **** about me. Then dinner was done and she was like you wanna hang out some more? I'm just like sure what do u wanna do and she's like wanna get drinks oh wait u don't drink alcohol so i'm like wanna get shakes and she's like sure. So we got shakes after and she started to open up and we talked some more for like an hour or 2. Then I asked her to come over and she agreed. I ask her if she wants to make out and she says I like to take it slow and don't have sex on the first date. lol okay fine with me. Then we watch videos for an hour and just talk about random ****. I tell her I'm an FA virgin but have banged prostitutes lol. She's just like lol never met a guy like that and was confused because I'm cute and never had a gf. And she's like I gotta go because I got a curfew but then she's like I kinda wanna make out with you. So we make out and then she's like I'm really horny and kinda want to grind on you and tells me she's not wearing underwear (wtf?). Then she grinds on my boxers until she cums lol. Then I'm like "do you wanna have sex?" And she's hesitant like "im really horny but I like to take things slow." okay lol (but she really wanted me to fight her on that but im just like no worries go home). Then she goes home because her curfew is 12 lol.

I liked her a lot but once she started showing sexual interest in me it kinda turned me off for some reason lol. She says she will hang out with me again and called me cute many times and said she likes half asian guys LOL. Well that was weird man but I think she wants me and I will see her again.

sounds like it's going to be fine then. 1st dates from online dating are always awkward, but I admit that one was worse than usual, but since she thinks you're cute, then you're good. congrats man. If a girl likes you, then yeah you can do w/e. The moment she stops liking you is the moment everything loses its meaning. So you're good. I'm happy for you. Wish I had a girlfriend.

[TallSaint]

already posted pics of texts. Not posting pics of girl.

Okay update.

She was cute. We went to dinner and then she acted weird as **** and wouldn't even look me straight in the eye and I was just asking her questions and she was answering and didn't ask a single thing about me. Felt ugly as **** and thought she didn't give a **** about me. Then dinner was done and she was like you wanna hang out some more? I'm just like sure what do u wanna do and she's like wanna get drinks oh wait u don't drink alcohol so i'm like wanna get shakes and she's like sure. So we got shakes after and she started to open up and we talked some more for like an hour or 2. Then I asked her to come over and she agreed. I ask her if she wants to make out and she says I like to take it slow and don't have sex on the first date. lol okay fine with me. Then we watch videos for an hour and just talk about random ****. I tell her I'm an FA virgin but have banged prostitutes lol. She's just like lol never met a guy like that and was confused because I'm cute and never had a gf. And she's like I gotta go because I got a curfew but then she's like I kinda wanna make out with you. So we make out and then she's like I'm really horny and kinda want to grind on you and tells me she's not wearing underwear (wtf?). Then she grinds on my boxers until she cums lol. Then I'm like "do you wanna have sex?" And she's hesitant like "im really horny but I like to take things slow." okay lol (but she really wanted me to fight her on that but im just like no worries go home). Then she goes home because her curfew is 12 lol.

I liked her a lot but once she started showing sexual interest in me it kinda turned me off for some reason lol. She says she will hang out with me again and called me cute many times and said she likes half asian guys LOL. Well that was weird man but I think she wants me and I will see her again.

Doesn't sound bad at all.

Congrats mane.

[drvillain]

already posted pics of texts. Not posting pics of girl.

Okay update.

She was cute. We went to dinner and then she acted weird as **** and wouldn't even look me straight in the eye and I was just asking her questions and she was answering and didn't ask a single thing about me. Felt ugly as **** and thought she didn't give a **** about me. Then dinner was done and she was like you wanna hang out some more? I'm just like sure what do u wanna do and she's like wanna get drinks oh wait u don't drink alcohol so i'm like wanna get shakes and she's like sure. So we got shakes after and she started to open up and we talked some more for like an hour or 2. Then I asked her to come over and she agreed. I ask her if she wants to make out and she says I like to take it slow and don't have sex on the first date. lol okay fine with me. Then we watch videos for an hour and just talk about random ****. I tell her I'm an FA virgin [b]but have banged prostitutes [b/]lol. She's just like lol never met a guy like that and was confused because I'm cute and never had a gf. And she's like I gotta go because I got a curfew but then she's like I kinda wanna make out with you. So we make out and then she's like I'm really horny and kinda want to grind on you and tells me she's not wearing underwear (wtf?). Then she grinds on my boxers until she cums lol. Then I'm like "do you wanna have sex?" And she's hesitant like "im really horny but I like to take things slow." okay lol (but she really wanted me to fight her on that but im just like no worries go home). Then she goes home because her curfew is 12 lol.

I liked her a lot but once she started showing sexual interest in me it kinda turned me off for some reason lol. She says she will hang out with me again and called me cute many times and said she likes half asian guys LOL. Well that was weird man but I think she wants me and I will see her again.

why would you tell a prospective date that you bang escorts.. cringe.


Also cringed at high school grinding


cringed at asking if she wanted to make out


cliffs: 70% chance you never see her again, despite what she told you

[JulioFoolio]

why would you tell a prospective date that you bang escorts.. cringe.


Also cringed at high school grinding


cringed at asking if she wanted to make out


cliffs: 70% chance you never see her again, despite what she told you

Give the guy a break, he has been a hardcore incel his entire life and all of the past 6 years on this forum and finally just went on the first date of his life with a real girl AND kissed her AND did something sexual with her. Pretty proud of the *******.

But yes imbored21, don't mention your inceldom next time, well technically you aren't really an incel anymore, you've ascended, the incels wouldn't accept you in their community anymore if they knew what you did.

Harpoon yourself a few whales to get your confidence and experience up, then you will begin moving on to average or even attractive girls. Also try picking up a hobby or two. Goodluck boyo

[awwchit2]

Sounds like a middle school date

Also If she was buzzed you’d probably have banged

Lol at shakes

[JulioFoolio]

Sounds like a middle school date

Also If she was buzzed you’d probably have banged

Lol at shakes

Agreed, imbored, get drinks with a girl next time, it will loosen both of you up, what is with incels and not drinking? EOD is the same way and so are a few other incel types on the board. I know you're on nardil ******* but you can have a drink or two.

You're not incel anymore so stop acting like it phgt

[Luc1fer]

Okay that’s a solid date in terms of expectations for you. Thankfully she’s a massive slut, looked past all the weird ****, and is leading you past inceldom. You might make it, but have a lot of work to do on your personality. I do hope you’re in therapy.

Couple of drinks for her was guaranteed sex btw.

[Voidgaze]

already posted pics of texts. Not posting pics of girl.

Okay update.

She was cute. We went to dinner and then she acted weird as **** and wouldn't even look me straight in the eye and I was just asking her questions and she was answering and didn't ask a single thing about me. Felt ugly as **** and thought she didn't give a **** about me. Then dinner was done and she was like you wanna hang out some more? I'm just like sure what do u wanna do and she's like wanna get drinks oh wait u don't drink alcohol so i'm like wanna get shakes and she's like sure. So we got shakes after and she started to open up and we talked some more for like an hour or 2. Then I asked her to come over and she agreed. I ask her if she wants to make out and she says I like to take it slow and don't have sex on the first date. lol okay fine with me. Then we watch videos for an hour and just talk about random ****. I tell her I'm an FA virgin but have banged prostitutes lol. She's just like lol never met a guy like that and was confused because I'm cute and never had a gf. And she's like I gotta go because I got a curfew but then she's like I kinda wanna make out with you. So we make out and then she's like I'm really horny and kinda want to grind on you and tells me she's not wearing underwear (wtf?). Then she grinds on my boxers until she cums lol. Then I'm like "do you wanna have sex?" And she's hesitant like "im really horny but I like to take things slow." okay lol (but she really wanted me to fight her on that but im just like no worries go home). Then she goes home because her curfew is 12 lol.

I liked her a lot but once she started showing sexual interest in me it kinda turned me off for some reason lol. She says she will hang out with me again and called me cute many times and said she likes half asian guys LOL. Well that was weird man but I think she wants me and I will see her again.

Some of this sounds unbelievable and cringe, but if true I'm glad you got the fuk out. Proud of you man.

Work on those conversation skills. NEVER tell a woman you bang escorts, WTF were you thinking?

[dolvioblue]

Took this chick back to my place last night...started kissing on my balcony (which is street level) and she starts whispering she wants to suck me off really bad.

Was a little drunk so pulled my pants/underwear down to my ankles right there, practically on the sidewalk, at like 12am.

She started giving me a handy and people were honking & screaming at us and chit. Neighbor already complained I play music too loud so if he saw that looool...luckily I had enough sense to lead her to the bedroom.

And...everything you heard about flight attendants, I can confirm.

This chick gave me 3 hickies (one on my dink), scratched the chit out of my back, almost drew blood when she bit my lip, and swallowed every drop after I busted in her mouth.

One of the best bjs I ever had.


Funny story too, before all this when we were talking at the bar she told me her worst "date" was a guy she video chatted with for an hour, and at the end he told her he was a cuckold.

loooooooooooooool

Pic of her?

[imbored21]

why would you tell a prospective date that you bang escorts.. cringe.

NEVER tell a woman you bang escorts, WTF were you thinking?

But yes imbored21, don't mention your inceldom next time

Guys she asked me how many girlfriends i had before. I said 0. She was surprised because she thinks I'm cute. And she wanted to know why and I just said I am shy and awkward and she's like ah that makes sense. Then she asked if I was a virgin and I'm like no. Then she's like okay you aren't that shy then. Then I'm like they were all prostitutes. Then she's like oh lol interesting. And she's like your escorts are getting a really good deal with you lol. Then she's like you never had friends to introduce you to girls? And I'm just like I never had a lot of friends cause I was too shy and awkward and she's like oh that makes sense. And I said online dating is a joke cause I get no matches and they don't respond or meet up. Then she's like I know all my guy friends say that. I feel bad for them lol.

[Luc1fer]

Guys she asked me if I ever had a gf before. I said no. And she wanted to know why and I just said I was shy and awkward and she's like ah that makes sense. Then she asked if I was a virgin and I'm like no. Then she's like okay you aren't that shy then. Then I'm like they were all prostitutes. Then she's like oh lol interesting. Then she's like you never had friends to introduce you to girls? And I'm just like I never had a lot of friends cause I was too shy and awkward and she's like oh that makes sense. And I said online dating is a joke cause I get no matches and they don't respond or meet up. Then she's like I know all my guy friends say that lol.

Makes sense. A lot of guys think stuff you say will matter. If she’s really attracted to you, you can pretty much say anything, especially if you own it.

I tend to speak openly and confidently about my flaws or insecurities. It usually works in my favor tbh, because they realize I’m genuine. I want someone who appreciates that anyway.

If she’s on the fence and looking for an excuse to eliminate you, everything you say will matter.

[imbored21]

Makes sense. A lot of guys think stuff you say will matter. If she’s really attracted to you, you can pretty much say anything, especially if you own it.

I tend to speak openly and confidently about my flaws or insecurities. It usually works in my favor tbh, because they realize I’m genuine. I want someone who appreciates that anyway.

If she’s on the fence and looking for an excuse to eliminate you, everything you say will matter.

Yeah I mean there's no point in lying. And it's actually good for them because then they feel like they can open up to you about their insecurities (girls have a lot of these).

[Luc1fer]

Yeah I mean there's no point in lying. And it's actually good for them because then they feel like they can open up to you about their insecurities (girls have a lot of these).

Right, but I’m assuming the guys thought you brought it up voluntarily out of nowhere. And I’d also assume the general advice you’ll get is not to answer those questions, and dodge them with a joke/comment.

If you absolutely want to maximize your chances to get laid by the on-the-fence girl, that advice is optimal. Give her less reasons to disqualify you. But I personally find that to be borderline beta behavior.

[MediocreGains]

already posted pics of texts. Not posting pics of girl.

Okay update.

She was cute. We went to dinner and then she acted weird as **** and wouldn't even look me straight in the eye and I was just asking her questions and she was answering and didn't ask a single thing about me. Felt ugly as **** and thought she didn't give a **** about me. Then dinner was done and she was like you wanna hang out some more? I'm just like sure what do u wanna do and she's like wanna get drinks oh wait u don't drink alcohol so i'm like wanna get shakes and she's like sure. So we got shakes after and she started to open up and we talked some more for like an hour or 2. Then I asked her to come over and she agreed. I ask her if she wants to make out and she says I like to take it slow and don't have sex on the first date. lol okay fine with me. Then we watch videos for an hour and just talk about random ****. I tell her I'm an FA virgin but have banged prostitutes lol. She's just like lol never met a guy like that and was confused because I'm cute and never had a gf. And she's like I gotta go because I got a curfew but then she's like I kinda wanna make out with you. So we make out and then she's like I'm really horny and kinda want to grind on you and tells me she's not wearing underwear (wtf?). Then she grinds on my boxers until she cums lol. Then I'm like "do you wanna have sex?" And she's hesitant like "im really horny but I like to take things slow." okay lol (but she really wanted me to fight her on that but im just like no worries go home). Then she goes home because her curfew is 12 lol.

I liked her a lot but once she started showing sexual interest in me it kinda turned me off for some reason lol. She says she will hang out with me again and called me cute many times and said she likes half asian guys LOL. Well that was weird man but I think she wants me and I will see her again.

If you're not frauding as usual, then this went better than could be expected for you. Maybe this will be the start of some real change.

[randomuser12345]

Yeah I mean there's no point in lying. And it's actually good for them because then they feel like they can open up to you about their insecurities (girls have a lot of these).

Ofc there is point in lying. Next time tell a girl: "yeah i had 3 gfs but it was few years ago. 90% she wouldn't dive in and ask about them and if she will say you parted without any grudge but you don't want to talk about exes."
Nothing makes pussy drier than fa virgins.

[mgftp]

Makes sense. A lot of guys think stuff you say will matter. If she’s really attracted to you, you can pretty much say anything, especially if you own it.

I tend to speak openly and confidently about my flaws or insecurities. It usually works in my favor tbh, because they realize I’m genuine. I want someone who appreciates that anyway.

If she’s on the fence and looking for an excuse to eliminate you, everything you say will matter.

What are your flaws?

[imbored21]

Ofc there is point in lying. Next time tell a girl: "yeah i had 3 gfs but it was few years ago. 90% she wouldn't dive in and ask about them and if she will say you parted without any grudge but you don't want to talk about exes."
Nothing makes pussy drier than fa virgins.

sounds like jestermaxing tbh. i dont even want a gf if i cant tell her my problems, emotions, insecurities. that's like one of the main points of a partner

[drvillain]

sounds like jestermaxing tbh. i dont even want a gf if i cant tell her my problems, emotions, insecurities. that's like one of the main points of a partner

cringe. You've got a lot of growing up to do as a man. I know many will disagree with me, but you don't need to put all of your baggage on your gf/wife

[DustinTheHuss]

sounds like jestermaxing tbh. i dont even want a gf if i cant tell her my problems, emotions, insecurities. that's like one of the main points of a partner

Yeah but you don't bring up that stuff right away on a first date. It's too much. You reveal that stuff over time.

[TallSaint]

Guys she asked me how many girlfriends i had before. I said 0. She was surprised because she thinks I'm cute. And she wanted to know why and I just said I am shy and awkward and she's like ah that makes sense. Then she asked if I was a virgin and I'm like no. Then she's like okay you aren't that shy then. Then I'm like they were all prostitutes. Then she's like oh lol interesting. And she's like your escorts are getting a really good deal with you lol. Then she's like you never had friends to introduce you to girls? And I'm just like I never had a lot of friends cause I was too shy and awkward and she's like oh that makes sense. And I said online dating is a joke cause I get no matches and they don't respond or meet up. Then she's like I know all my guy friends say that. I feel bad for them lol.

Gjdm.

The fact that she still was into sexually playing around with you after you told her all of this after the first date, indicates that she's really into you.

Gotta say, I lol'd reading your updated regarding this date, but looks like you are gonna make it.

[MediocreGains]

cringe. You've got a lot of growing up to do as a man. I know many will disagree with me, but you don't need to put all of your baggage on your gf/wife

I actually agree.

That said, different people look for different things in a relationship. There was a time in my life when I was young and didn't know what I wanted that I thought I wanted a girl who could "understand" me and to whom I could tell everything. My relationships got a lot better when I no longer had that need or even wanted it.

[Luc1fer]

What are your flaws?

Overanalyzing, fear of regret sometimes leading to minor paralysis on decision making, thinking I can control outcomes and/or beating myself up after an unfavorable outcome occurs as a result of my decision.

These are all evidently related. And not applicable in all areas of my life, or all the time. Been working to improve this stuff, which almost paradoxically means thinking a bit less about decisions and their outcomes.

[randomuser12345]

sounds like jestermaxing tbh. i dont even want a gf if i cant tell her my problems, emotions, insecurities. that's like one of the main points of a partner

I tell you what girl thinks when you're telling her smth like that: "if literally nobody wanted him why would i?"

[skinnyfat88]

Yeah I mean there's no point in lying. And it's actually good for them because then they feel like they can open up to you about their insecurities (girls have a lot of these).

Good on you for being able to communicate/escalate/etc even though many people would agree you overshared.

Your posts have been cringe with the bluepill mentality (I think I am using that correctly) so hopefully getting yourself out there and learning some chit changes you for the better.

[mgftp]

Overanalyzing, fear of regret sometimes leading to minor paralysis on decision making, thinking I can control outcomes and/or beating myself up after an unfavorable outcome occurs as a result of my decision.

These are all evidently related. And not applicable in all areas of my life, or all the time. Been working to improve this stuff, which almost paradoxically means thinking a bit less about decisions and their outcomes.

Sometimes I read your posts and wonder if you are my more successful and more attractive twin. We are in different stages of life and desire different things from life, but share a lot in common.

[bustasinclair]

Sometimes I read your posts and wonder if you are my more successful and more attractive twin. We are in different stages of life and desire different things from life, but share a lot in common.

This ^^

I can't tell you how many times I have thought this when reading posts by Luc.

[Luc1fer]

Gotta teach women how to clean dishes properly

[mgftp]

^ Luci, would you be interested in a woman who wanted to reverse gender roles? Still kinda have an equal split of responsibilities around the house but say she wanted to shovel snow, now the lawn, care for the yard, etc and wanted you to cook, clean, and do laundry?

[TheBuffmuffin]

Recently out of a 4.5 year relationship, it’s been a long time since I’ve dated someone new.

Thinking about giving online dating a shot for now, nothing serious. Keep it casual, it’s been a couple weeks but thinking I’ll be ready to put myself back out there fairly soon.

26 and have my own home, a great career and a nicer vehicle. Finally started working out again and gaining weight.

What are the recommendations for the apps?