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    I know, right? What if she gets pregnant and doesn't know who the father is?!!
    Another good point, what if she gets pregnant with another dude and then blames you.
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    Originally Posted by MediocreGains View Post
    In all honesty, I never felt any guilt. Probably some degree of sociopathy on my part, since I didn't really feel any guilt even when it came to girls I was dating. Saying that you might "hurt" her could be an exaggeration though. She wouldn't like it, but you've only been on 2-3 dates.
    I don't think I would've felt guilt in my mid-20's tbh. I had a less matured set of principles and articulated ethics.

    How sociopathic were you? Did you know girls were gaining feelings and intentionally lead them on to keep them on the hook, or just intentionally keep some distance by limiting comms?

    It made it easier that I was "rewarded" for such behavior as well. The more I became like that, the easier it became to get more women and I also noticed that more women caught feelings for me. I always figured that it was because most women are "naturally" attracted to that kind of behavior despite themselves, but these days I also think it had a lot to do with compatibility. I became more myself in a sense by embracing my inner scumbag rather than denying it, and this therefore attracted women who were more compatible with me, while it would quickly repel women who aren't into guys like me.
    I'm not sure if that's true, I suspect you just appeared more confident because you cared less. And that inadvertently attracts women, usually low quality ones without decent standards. I have that "side" too, and funny enough, I think my ex liked when it came out. She was low quality.

    Not something I thought about... or really even care about that much. When I sit on a park bench, how do I know someone hasn't pissed on it? I think it just comes down to different people have different levels of preoccupation with cleanliness/germs. Yours is probably stronger than most. Of course, if there were feelings involved, that's a completely different thing.
    It's true that people have different levels, but I really think that people just don't think about it.

    Although, did you really not give a fuk if a guy had come in her a couple of hours before? Or did you avoid thinking about it, or convince yourself she wouldn't.
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    Originally Posted by Luc1fer View Post
    I feel like people don't think this through at all. It's bizarre to me. I asked my ex the same thing when I discovered she was in a similar situation in the past, no good answer.

    IDK if people just block it out of their brain or something.

    If a chick I'm dating has sex with another guy, and sees me before even possibly showering to get intimate again, that is so disgusting. That's an extreme example, but even a few days or a week is bad in terms of spreading disease.

    How do you guys check if she's had sex with another guy hours before you, or do you just remain ignorant?
    I guess I'm unbelievably arrogant. I figure even if she was having sex with someone before she met me, it's done now lol
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    Originally Posted by mcboo2 View Post
    I guess I'm unbelievably arrogant. I figure even if she was having sex with someone before she met me, it's done now lol
    I don't think it's arrogance, your aversion to disgust must be far lower than mine. Huh

    I don't wanna be anywhere near another guys dik or cum (there could be some still on her). Would you ever consider a threesome with another guy involved?
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    Originally Posted by Luc1fer View Post
    I don't think it's arrogance, your aversion to disgust must be far lower than mine. Huh

    I don't wanna be anywhere near another guys dik or cum (there could be some still on her). Would you ever consider a threesome with another guy involved?

    ohhhhhh lmao i did not even see the hours before you thing. I don't even think I have met a girl that would do something like that lol. Dude that would absolutely never happen
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    Originally Posted by mcboo2 View Post
    ohhhhhh lmao i did not even see the hours before you thing. I don't even think I have met a girl that would do something like that lol. Dude that would absolutely never happen
    How do you know it wouldn't happen if you aren't sexually exclusive and are both dating multiple people?
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    Thanks to the posters who give great advice.
    And the rest of us

    Might as well post your dilemma, maybe needs it’s own thread
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    Originally Posted by missnatalka View Post
    I have a dating dilemma (not really a long story, just a long typed up explanation of what I’m going through) that I need help with but dont want to flood this thread with my million paragraph story lol. Appreciate reading all your dating stories and have been a long, long, long time lurker of these threads. Thanks to the posters who give great advice.
    Post it lol have you seen some of luci’s, spade, and others posts?
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    Originally Posted by Luc1fer View Post
    Had a good day, several more hours together - brought her back to mine, and we had sex. I don't think she expected to be having sex tbh (she was embarrassed about her panties lol), but the chemistry was high.

    Some light signs of possessiveness; asked me if I still talked to my ex. So she's appearing very high interest.

    I always feel a bit weird in these situations - I don't want to get attached too quickly, but I also don't want her to. I know that her feelings technically isn't my responsibility but we barely know each other, so I tend to take a somewhat realistic position early during that honeymoon period to protect expectations and emotions.
    Glad it went well, but dude, do you think maybe the reason you have problems later on is because you lock down these girls too early?

    I'm not saying you should be keeping a rotation, but maybe just keep her at arms length for a bit and just go on some dates with a few different women before fully committing to one.
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    Originally Posted by missnatalka View Post
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    Originally Posted by Rebel012 View Post
    Glad it went well, but dude, do you think maybe the reason you have problems later on is because you lock down these girls too early?

    I'm not saying you should be keeping a rotation, but maybe just keep her at arms length for a bit and just go on some dates with a few different women before fully committing to one.
    I don't fully commit to anyone early, I only request sexual exclusivity really. I just mostly date exclusively to give it a proper chance, is that committing? I guess on some level.

    I see the pros of your approach though, if you're disciplined about not bunny hopping endlessly.
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    Originally Posted by Luc1fer View Post
    I don't fully commit to anyone early, I only request sexual exclusivity really. I just mostly date exclusively to give it a proper chance, is that committing? I guess on some level.

    I see the pros of your approach though, if you're disciplined about not bunny hopping endlessly.
    Exclusivity can also be viewed as just sexual and, if one wishes, they could still be entertaining other options.

    There was a month or so period with my last gf where she asked for exclusivity in that aspect and I agreed but I was still kinda flirty when I was out and about and once I was ready to commit fully I toned that down.
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    installed bumble and CMB.. why do i only see fatties on there, wtf is wrong with these apps. had the same issue with hinge and when i emailed support they said i shouldn't use their app if i talk about women like that lol.

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    Originally Posted by skinnyfat88 View Post
    Exclusivity can also be viewed as just sexual and, if one wishes, they could still be entertaining other options.

    There was a month or so period with my last gf where she asked for exclusivity in that aspect and I agreed but I was still kinda flirty when I was out and about and once I was ready to commit fully I toned that down.
    That's fine, my primary concern is sexual exclusivity. Secondary is giving it a fair chance and not bunny hopping endlessly.

    Of course if either of us continues dating another person, sexual exclusivity is at risk.
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    installed bumble and CMB.. why do i only see fatties on there, wtf is wrong with these apps. had the same issue with hinge and when i emailed support they said i shouldn't use their app if i talk about women like that lol.

    i'm white, athletic, 6'3" ... in TORONTO.

    You actually emailed tech support asking why all the options were fat?

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    Originally Posted by Luc1fer View Post
    I don't think I would've felt guilt in my mid-20's tbh. I had a less matured set of principles and articulated ethics.

    How sociopathic were you? Did you know girls were gaining feelings and intentionally lead them on to keep them on the hook, or just intentionally keep some distance by limiting comms?



    I'm not sure if that's true, I suspect you just appeared more confident because you cared less. And that inadvertently attracts women, usually low quality ones without decent standards. I have that "side" too, and funny enough, I think my ex liked when it came out. She was low quality.



    It's true that people have different levels, but I really think that people just don't think about it.

    Although, did you really not give a fuk if a guy had come in her a couple of hours before? Or did you avoid thinking about it, or convince yourself she wouldn't.
    Most people generally don’t think about that stuff man, honestly seems odd that you do from my perspective unless you have had something like that happen to you in the past.
    Would you refrain from kissing a new girl you met up with if she said she talks to other guys, out of fear she might of sucked some dink before meeting with you?

    I don’t really think about it because I assume most women have common decency, as do I.
    If a girl gives off complete turbosloot vibes or something, then I guess there is a possibility but overall I usually assume that we’ve clicked somewhat they would be decent enough to not have phukked a guy before meeting up with me.

    For first dates, usually they dress nice, have makeup done etc. so don’t really think about that.
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    installed bumble and CMB.. why do i only see fatties on there, wtf is wrong with these apps. had the same issue with hinge and when i emailed support they said i shouldn't use their app if i talk about women like that lol.
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    Went on a simple date with a guy from hinge. So coffee + walk around the park. Went pretty well until I tripped on air (hit the ground) in front of the dude lol

    Caused me to snort while laughing which embarrassed me more lmaoo

    Didn’t receive a text back yet. Feelsbadman.jpg
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    Originally Posted by FemaleWarriorxo View Post
    Went on a simple date with a guy from hinge. So coffee + walk around the park. Went pretty well until I tripped on air (hit the ground) in front of the dude lol

    Caused me to snort while laughing which embarrassed me more lmaoo

    Didn’t receive a text back yet. Feelsbadman.jpg
    Something like that would be attractive to me. If he doesn’t text back, it isn’t because of that unless he’s super uptight.
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    Originally Posted by Luc1fer View Post
    How do you know it wouldn't happen if you aren't sexually exclusive and are both dating multiple people?

    I guess I technically don't, but I just can't imagine some girl boning some dude and then have any inclination to do it again the same day or right after lol
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    Originally Posted by Luc1fer View Post
    Something like that would be attractive to me. If he doesn’t text back, it isn’t because of that unless he’s super uptight.
    That’s what I thought also.

    He’ll be the first to not text back but if he doesn’t then he doesn’t. We’ll see lol
    I wouldn’t say he’s uptight but our personalities were kinda different
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    Originally Posted by Luc1fer View Post
    I don't think I would've felt guilt in my mid-20's tbh. I had a less matured set of principles and articulated ethics.

    How sociopathic were you? Did you know girls were gaining feelings and intentionally lead them on to keep them on the hook, or just intentionally keep some distance by limiting comms?
    For me, it's the opposite in that I would've felt more guilt (or wouldn't have done it at all) when I was that age. I used to be fairly religious, but my views are more pragmatic now.

    But no, I never intentionally led anyone on and limited communication if I didn't really have any feelings.

    I'm not sure if that's true, I suspect you just appeared more confident because you cared less. And that inadvertently attracts women, usually low quality ones without decent standards. I have that "side" too, and funny enough, I think my ex liked when it came out. She was low quality.
    Maybe, but I think the "quality" isn't a factor. Good girls being attracted to bad men is a story as old as time. Hell, I grew up seeing it. My mother is a good woman, but my father was hardly a good man. Some people are just attracted to opposites for whatever psychological reason.

    It's true that people have different levels, but I really think that people just don't think about it.

    Although, did you really not give a fuk if a guy had come in her a couple of hours before? Or did you avoid thinking about it, or convince yourself she wouldn't.
    It's true that most people simply don't think about it, but the probability of a girl banging two different guys within the same waking hours is pretty damn low. To me, it's like worrying if a waiter spit in your food. How often does that really happen?
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    Originally Posted by Rebel012 View Post
    You actually emailed tech support asking why all the options were fat?

    Lmao.
    Hell ya. I tried hinge before, it never really worked.. my friend had success (manlet, bald, medium size) and met a 8/10 so I'm like okay what's your secret. He said he paid for it which gave him more swipes and better chances.

    So I pay for it and it's all whales.

    I emailed them asking why I only see obese women and the rep said something along the lines of "if you're going to talk about women like that then maybe our app isn't for you"

    I replied "I don't think you should be telling me who I should be attracted to. Just because I don't support unhealthy lifestyles doesn't mean the app isn't for me. Your app is messed up"

    A few emails back and forth and I told them I wanted a refund, which was promptly issued.

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    Originally Posted by bertishere View Post
    Hell ya. I tried hinge before, it never really worked.. my friend had success (manlet, bald, medium size) and met a 8/10 so I'm like okay what's your secret. He said he paid for it which gave him more swipes and better chances.

    So I pay for it and it's all whales.

    I emailed them asking why I only see obese women and the rep said something along the lines of "if you're going to talk about women like that then maybe our app isn't for you"

    I replied "I don't think you should be telling me who I should be attracted to. Just because I don't support unhealthy lifestyles doesn't mean the app isn't for me. Your app is messed up"

    A few emails back and forth and I told them I wanted a refund, which was promptly issued.

    Never again.
    lmao. glad you at least got your money back. the quality of each app varies wildly based on your location, it seems.
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    Originally Posted by bertishere View Post
    installed bumble and CMB.. why do i only see fatties on there, wtf is wrong with these apps. had the same issue with hinge and when i emailed support they said i shouldn't use their app if i talk about women like that lol.

    i'm white, athletic, 6'3" ... in TORONTO.
    My friend and I both had this happen to us initially when using hinge, but after a while it essentially stopped showing us whales. Think u might need to build up some matches/msgs before getting "value." Idk.
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    Originally Posted by Luc1fer View Post
    Another good point, what if she gets pregnant with another dude and then blames you.
    this happened to my friend's kid.
    turned out there were multiple possibilities nobody knew about.
    including one of her friends father.

    the actual father's grandparents got a DNA test done and we found out he wasn't the father.
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    Originally Posted by NitrogenWidget View Post
    this happened to my friend's kid.
    turned out there were multiple possibilities nobody knew about.
    including one of her friends father.

    the actual father's grandparents got a DNA test done and we found out he wasn't the father.
    Wow what a disaster.
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    Throwback, just lol at how many msgs women get

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