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    You commies talk about living vs dying.

    When people have to pay an extra 8% in taxes to fund this, they're working a month without getting paid for it. They become slaves. That is time in their finite life that they could spend however they wanted. You're taking that from them. You're taking a part of their life.

    Pretty disgusting imo. Some people are disabled and that draws sympathy. But 95% of poor people are poor because of life choices. Almost all of their problems would be solved by not having kids that they can't afford.

    US healthcare is terrible due to collusion between insurance and providers. We should focus on eliminating that garbage to make it more affordable.
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    If "EVERYTHING" is free, then there's no incentive to work...

    Why the fukk would someone work their ass off to get ahead and get things in life, when you can just sit at home and do nothing and get paid just as much? These socialist are retards. the entire economy and nation would plummet into a sh!thole.
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    Quite possibly the worst argument I've ever heard.
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    Originally Posted by mp83 View Post
    If you can't see the difference between healthcare, which is life-saving, and car maintenance, you are stupid even by misc standards
    Should we take care of people that don't have a body fat % within a certain range? Why should we subsidize their bad choices?

    People should do everything they possibly can, and THEN ask for charity.

    More people will learn to swim if you don't throw them a lifejacket at the drop of a hat.
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    Originally Posted by Anachron View Post
    People who are normally against nationalized health care do not realize that the inflated costs associated with health care in countries that do not have nationalized health care is not the true cost:

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    legalize filling scripts in different countries and bye bye sky high profits. my friends dad bought hep c meds for 1700 in India that costs 90k+ here. pharma can go funk themselves.
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    Originally Posted by 5tfihsmgidarap View Post
    sounds good in theory of course but never works out ahah how many times does this have to be tried before dumb ****s realize itll never happen
    just like communism they will be "trying it" for decades to come
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    Originally Posted by Anachron View Post
    Location : Australia

    I was under the impression you had public health care?
    Population 25 million, it's actually going to struggle hard the more they push for immigration and the older population. The quality is already beginning to drop, a lot of people buy additional private healthcare because the public system has long wait times.
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    Originally Posted by gmenfan40 View Post
    If "EVERYTHING" is free, then there's no incentive to work...

    Why the fukk would someone work their ass off to get ahead and get things in life, when you can just sit at home and do nothing and get paid just as much? These socialist are retards. the entire economy and nation would plummet into a sh!thole.
    As far as I'm concerned my neighbor can go without the latest TV if he doesn't work. But I wouldn't really want to see him die of cancer because he can't afford treatment.
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    Originally Posted by Harry362 View Post
    I don't understand how anyone could morally support "Free" healthcare. As a healthcare provider myself I am providing a service and putting in my effort and time. I don't go to my lawn maintenance guy and say hey you dont deserve $225 a month because its my right to a freshly cut lawn or not want to pay my mechanic when my truck breaks.

    Pushing for "Free" healthcare is essentially supporting slavery
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    I think when people try to compare the US to Canada and Australia they are forgetting that they have about the same land mass but 1/10th the population. Even smaller countries like Norway, their population is less than most US states although their territory is quite large for the population. Not to mention a lot of resources, Norway and Canada. 25mil to 325mil.... and I'm not even going to bring up the demographics because saying that a country being 90%+ white is supposed to be a disadvantage. Not to even mention there is a lot more going on here in the US.

    You have only so many resources and the more people the more that has to supply. It's why people in China and India will never be able to live the lifestyle the average American gets to live. So when I hear that Canadians have a better standard of living, quality of life, all I think is "well no chit" but that doesn't mean all Canadians. In fact, I WONDER WHY THEY AREN'T LIVING BETTER. In fact, I think that the typical hard working, career motivated person has it better in the US than anywhere else.
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    OP do you want a "free" u.s. military? IMO you should have to pay out of pocket or get war insurance on your own every time we get into a conflict
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    Originally Posted by Anachron View Post
    This argument actually works against you. Same landmass with less population makes it more expensive per capita to put infrastructure in place. Hence higher taxes and less purchasing power.
    Good point, you're right. Less people so you need less too. Some of that is Canada's government's fault as they could tax the resources instead of the people, and most of all, not allow forigners to come into the country and compete against Canadians. A Chinese citizen can buy your house without even leaving the country almost as easily as you could. They can buy property in the US but there are so many loops and red tape that it makes it unprofitable. Here in GA, if you have homestead exemption, your property taxes are much less. I think even if you rent it out but live in the state, it isn't bad, but if you are not a GA resident and try to invest in property or rent property out here the taxes will eat you alive. Not sure of the details but guy I worked with moved out of state and rented his house out, and then put it up for sale because he said his property taxes went up so much because he was no longer a GA resident.
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