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    Originally Posted by Calikid32190 View Post
    Yes consistency has been key for me. I want to be single digit BF at 155 then eventually going for 170 and having single BF. I know it’s a journey so I’m taking it slow but it’s been fun so far
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    Originally Posted by Calikid32190 View Post
    Yes consistency has been key for me. I want to be single digit BF at 155 then eventually going for 170 and having single BF. I know it’s a journey so I’m taking it slow but it’s been fun so far
    I used to think 175 or 180 10% but honestly I cant imagine it unless it's all in my legs lol. It just sounds too big but who knows where we will end up at.. life style life style life style..

    Cant say it enough.

    I quit the gym few years ago. I do only weighted calastentics. Almost hit my first handstand push up today. I cant really determine what intermediate lifter means anymore.

    Generically it is 225lb 5x5 bench 135lb 5x5 php 315lb 5x5 squat and 405lb 5x5 deadlift..

    I never even hit those lifts so maybe im still a novice in that context. But I can do weighted dips weighted pull ups. Can almost do front lever. Can do dragon flags. Weighted pistol squats ect.

    I kind of lost the meaning when it came to the line between novice and intermediate.
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    Originally Posted by Calikid32190 View Post
    So then you just continue to fail the same weight then? They explained it that way that if you keep failing the weight to do a reset and work back up. I mean I don’t like to reset but others on the forums have said it’s important.
    if you are failing at weights a 95 lb female can do at 150 lb male and younger your doing something wrong. You are novice, either your lacking consistency week too week, not pushing yourself /weights enough or your form is really bad and you don’t know how to lift properly. I taught a girl how to powerlift and it was the first time she touched a bar, at 140 six months later she beats your lifts dramatically.....

    You're not going to burn out. You should be gaining strength unless your cutting pretty intensely
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    Ugh... it saddens me this weird obsession with being shredded people have...
    Some people have a much easier time maintaining lower bf. As long as it doesnt affect your health than I dont see an issue. Same goes with permanent bulkers lol also I live in Hawaii so shirtless crew every day.
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    Originally Posted by Junsuiakai View Post
    Some people have a much easier time maintaining lower bf. As long as it doesnt affect your health than I dont see an issue. Same goes with permanent bulkers lol also I live in Hawaii so shirtless crew every day.
    Maintaining <10% with good energy and overall health might be possible for something like .001% of all people...

    Most people will be at their best somewhere between 12% and 20%.
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    Maintaining <10% with good energy and overall health might be possible for something like .001% of all people...

    Most people will be at their best somewhere between 12% and 20%.
    I honestly think most people vastly underestimate bf like what they think is 7% really is 12%
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    Originally Posted by snailsrus View Post
    I honestly think most people vastly underestimate bf like what they think is 7% really is 12%
    Ain't that the biggest understatement lol
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    Originally Posted by snailsrus View Post
    I honestly think most people vastly underestimate bf like what they think is 7% really is 12%
    Totally.
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    Originally Posted by snailsrus View Post
    if you are failing at weights a 95 lb female can do at 150 lb male and younger your doing something wrong. You are novice, either your lacking consistency week too week, not pushing yourself /weights enough or your form is really bad and you don’t know how to lift properly. I taught a girl how to powerlift and it was the first time she touched a bar, at 140 six months later she beats your lifts dramatically.....

    You're not going to burn out. You should be gaining strength unless your cutting pretty intensely
    I never miss a gym day that is scheduled even if sick so it’s not a consistency thing for me. I’ve followed the way he has it laid out in F5. The weights are dictated by the week since they’re constantly going up every week so it can be extremely challenging really fast since you only ever do whatever weight you’re on that week in the novice program. It could be my form but I feel I would’ve never of gotten up to the 200s in deadlift and back squat with bad form. I would’ve felt it in my back since typically that’s where the bad form comes with those 2 lifts and at that much weight if you were doing it wrong I feel like you would know. The only thing left is the novice part. Not sure what classifies someone as a novice though.

    If it’s a better idea to go back to F5 novice I feel you’ll hit your max weight fast with the increase of weight every week so it doesn’t seem like something you can stay on long.
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    Originally Posted by Calikid32190 View Post
    I never miss a gym day that is scheduled even if sick so it’s not a consistency thing for me. I’ve followed the way he has it laid out in F5. The weights are dictated by the week since they’re constantly going up every week so it can be extremely challenging really fast since you only ever do whatever weight you’re on that week in the novice program. It could be my form but I feel I would’ve never of gotten up to the 200s in deadlift and back squat with bad form. I would’ve felt it in my back since typically that’s where the bad form comes with those 2 lifts and at that much weight if you were doing it wrong I feel like you would know. The only thing left is the novice part. Not sure what classifies someone as a novice though.

    If it’s a better idea to go back to F5 novice I feel you’ll hit your max weight fast with the increase of weight every week so it doesn’t seem like something you can stay on long.
    200’s for deadlift is a very middle of the road novice weight for 150. And ya bad form you could do it but you will find it harder to progress. Your lifts are weak. Sorry they just are. You need to figure out what your doing wrong and resetting your lifts unless you are fixing your form is useless
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    Sounds like you haven't learned to push through difficult sets. Things will get uncomfortable eventually and you will have to deal with it to progress.
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    Originally Posted by TolerantLactose View Post
    Sounds like you haven't learned to push through difficult sets. Things will get uncomfortable eventually and you will have to deal with it to progress.
    This is a good way to state what I think his issue may very well be.
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    Here’s my DL does the form look bad?

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    Originally Posted by Junsuiakai View Post
    Some people have a much easier time maintaining lower bf. As long as it doesnt affect your health than I dont see an issue. Same goes with permanent bulkers lol also I live in Hawaii so shirtless crew every day.
    I'm going to contradict myself here and say now that I'm actually 10%ish I DO NOT WANT TO MAINTAIN THIS BF% FOR LONG

    Brb so many guys hit on me
    Brb feel flat all the time unless right after high carb meal
    Finish cut oct 24th but I will never go this low again goat bf% is 12%

    Brb feel so energized
    Brb skin looks so healthy
    Brb mood of the Gods
    Brb always look full

    Adam you nailed it. No point to be this low year round lol
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    Here’s my DL does the form look bad?

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    Looks good but need to lock those hips at the top.

    Squeeze dem glutes hard but dont over extend low back.

    Also that weight seems way too light for you.
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    Originally Posted by Junsuiakai View Post
    Looks good but need to lock those hips at the top.

    Squeeze dem glutes hard but dont over extend low back.

    Also that weight seems way too light for you.
    Thanks and I haven’t been able to increase it yet because it’s every 2 weeks for the increase but it’s going to go up Monday.
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    Thanks and I haven’t been able to increase it yet because it’s every 2 weeks for the increase but it’s going to go up Monday.
    you have really good form, try a box behind you calves and make sure when going up you continue to have calves against the box, this will help you use your body weight to have more leverage to pull
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    Originally Posted by snailsrus View Post
    you have really good form, try a box behind you calves and make sure when going up you continue to have calves against the box, this will help you use your body weight to have more leverage to pull
    Thanks I seriously watched like an hour and a half of DL videos to see where I could be making mistakes. I’m only 5’9 so something hard for me to do is reach the bar so I need to get even lower and my hips would start at to low of a position so I may of been squatting the weight. I’ll do squats and post a video on here when I do and you guys can see
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    Originally Posted by Calikid32190 View Post
    Thanks I seriously watched like an hour and a half of DL videos to see where I could be making mistakes. I’m only 5’9 so something hard for me to do is reach the bar so I need to get even lower and my hips would start at to low of a position so I may of been squatting the weight. I’ll do squats and post a video on here when I do and you guys can see
    thr box teaches you to trust the weight and lean back when you pull. I’m 5’2-5’3ish. Reaching the bar is not your issue. But you done round your back. Do you do any assisted lifts?
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    Here’s my DL does the form look bad?

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    The bar path isn't straight. I think you hit your knees on every descent, which were very slow, btw. That tells me you're lifting a lot less than what you're capable of.

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    Originally Posted by TolerantLactose View Post
    The bar path isn't straight. I think you hit your knees on every descent, which were very slow, btw. That tells me you're lifting a lot less than what you're capable of.

    Your feet should stay planted.
    I try to go as slow as possible so I don’t lose form. It’s harder to go slower than go super fast or fast. The highest I’ve done on DL was 220 but I did a reset and I’m working my way back to that. That was 180. People told me it would be a good idea to reset to better my form because I have the strength but I would need to get better form. I’m about to go back to the novice f5 so I can do more of the main lifts frequently and the progression is a little faster than the intermediate since you’re increasing weight every week.
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    Originally Posted by snailsrus View Post
    thr box teaches you to trust the weight and lean back when you pull. I’m 5’2-5’3ish. Reaching the bar is not your issue. But you done round your back. Do you do any assisted lifts?
    I follow what is in the F5 intermediate program. I can try to put a box behind my feet and see if that helps as well. Form may be the thing that prevents me from getting higher numbers
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    I try to go as slow as possible so I don’t lose form. It’s harder to go slower than go super fast or fast.
    Imo, it's incorrect form to slow down purposely. I also think it leads to further form breakdown.
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    Originally Posted by TolerantLactose View Post
    Imo, it's incorrect form to slow down purposely. I also think it leads to further form breakdown.
    I mean I’ll go faster I have no problem doing that I just thought you want to be under tension longer and it always seems to be a debate on what’s better between fast or slower reps. Slower is a lot more taxing because you cant use momentum because you’re not going very fast. On some exercise I do go fast though like the back squat because if you go slow on the descent it makes it a nightmare to explode up.
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    I mean I’ll go faster I have no problem doing that I just thought you want to be under tension longer and it always seems to be a debate on what’s better between fast or slower reps. Slower is a lot more taxing because you cant use momentum because you’re not going very fast. On some exercise I do go fast though like the back squat because if you go slow on the descent it makes it a nightmare to explode up.
    are you near a big city? In the states? Look for a powerlifting gym if so and find some one with really high numbers for squat/dl/bench, uspa coach cert, doesn’t charge some crazy amount, competes /judges and after your first work out you are sore as hell. No overly complicated diets or lifting routines. Teaches you the basics and you see your lifts go up in a month. Also just asking some regulars who lift heavy foR advice. It’s hard to learn good form or teach good form online/just watching YouTube
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    Originally Posted by Calikid32190 View Post
    I mean I’ll go faster I have no problem doing that I just thought you want to be under tension longer and it always seems to be a debate on what’s better between fast or slower reps. Slower is a lot more taxing because you cant use momentum because you’re not going very fast. On some exercise I do go fast though like the back squat because if you go slow on the descent it makes it a nightmare to explode up.
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    are you near a big city? In the states? Look for a powerlifting gym if so and find some one with really high numbers for squat/dl/bench, uspa coach cert, doesn’t charge some crazy amount, competes /judges and after your first work out you are sore as hell. No overly complicated diets or lifting routines. Teaches you the basics and you see your lifts go up in a month. Also just asking some regulars who lift heavy foR advice. It’s hard to learn good form or teach good form online/just watching YouTube
    We do have a CrossFit and my dad is good friends with the owner but idk about CrossFit. They think you can build muscle while losing fat and I know that isn’t true. It’s extremely hard to do that and you more than likely have to be juicing to gain muscle while burning fat since losing weight is catabolic and gaining muscle is anabolic.
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    We do have a CrossFit and my dad is good friends with the owner but idk about CrossFit. They think you can build muscle while losing fat and I know that isn’t true. It’s extremely hard to do that and you more than likely have to be juicing to gain muscle while burning fat since losing weight is catabolic and gaining muscle is anabolic.
    if your body fat is higher you can lose fat while building muscle
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    if your body fat is higher you can lose fat while building muscle
    Well for me it def wouldn’t work I have pretty low BF. I’ve put on about 14 pounds but it’s at around 13%-14%. I don’t have enough knowledge with CF only the things I hear. Sounds like they make you run whatever program they’re doing that day so and I’m not sure they focus on the big 4. DL, squat, bench and OHP. I mean if they allowed free lifting not structured they could possibly help me with my form. I could go free because of my dad but I love my free weights a lot. My cardio I know is terrible now because I don’t do it anymore. Especially when bulking
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