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    Arrow Allow me to explain how polling works and how Biden is "up."

    Yes, these polls do poll both registered republicans and democrats. It is how they can say that they are asking both sides of the isles, plus independents.


    So here is what they are doing -

    1. Poll 50 "R" Registered suburbanites in Democratic Cities/States. The ones who are RINO's in other words.

    2. Poll 50 "D" Registered liberal areas.

    3. Avoid all areas of D or R that could possibly have moderate views or pro-Trump views.

    4. Claim polls are accurate representation since out of 100 people, 50 were R and 50 were D.

    5. ????????????

    6. I don't think there is a profit.
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    Imagine being this fuking stupid lmao
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    Well anyone with one brain cell can tell that these polls are not accurately representing America right now. IF somehow people honestly believe that after the covid shutdowns and the riots, both supported by Dems, and after Biden has been basically a Weekend At Bernies Figurehead, and that Biden is ahead?

    I don't know what to tell them other than they are in for a very very rude surprise in a month.
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    Originally Posted by FoxMcCocks View Post
    Imagine being this fuking stupid lmao
    His vote is worth as much as yours and mine

    He also probably owns guns and is going to breed, if he hasnt already.
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    Originally Posted by OptimistPrime11 View Post
    Well anyone with one brain cell can tell that these polls are not accurately representing America right now. IF somehow people honestly believe that after the covid shutdowns and the riots, both supported by Dems, and after Biden has been basically a Weekend At Bernies Figurehead, and that Biden is ahead?

    I don't know what to tell them other than they are in for a very very rude surprise in a month.
    Lmao the delusions of the cult... good luck in November, I'm sure we'll read many ramblings about rigged elections
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    Originally Posted by Jaydawg08 View Post
    Lmao the delusions of the cult... good luck in November, I'm sure we'll read many ramblings about rigged elections
    I said the same thing in 2016 AND put my money where my mouth is by betting Trump.

    Care to bet me? I will bet you anywhere from $1000 to $50,000.
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    ...do you actually think it works that way? or something even remotely close to that?
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    Imagine being this fuking stupid lmao
    obviously you can't.
    If you could you'd just stop posting.
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    Originally Posted by tyqb4 View Post
    ...do you actually think it works that way? or something even remotely close to that?
    Go ahead, explain away how polling works.
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    Poll miscers and it would have closest prediction to who will win
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    Hilldog was crushing it in the 2016 polls, dems were expecting a landslide victory.
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    Who in their right mind is going to tell a stranger that you are voting for Trump? People are being doxxed and physically attacked for being Trump supporters. Wearing a MAGA hat comes with risks. Who wants to go onto some list that you have no idea what they are going to do with down the track?

    Honestly isnt it amazing how libs can sit there and talk about how divisive the president is, when half the country has to remain silent about the fact that they want to vote for the current president of the republican party or they have to take on personal risk if they dont keep quiet about this.

    If you are voting blue at this stage, you either hate America or you hate Americans. Downright evil motherfukers.

    Lastly, the polls are conducted by a corrupt and biased media who is trying to do 2 things

    1) Discourage Trump voters (its futile)
    2) Give the Dems ammunition to go to court after Trump smashes them in the election and the mail in ballots start to turn up in battleground states
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    Originally Posted by OptimistPrime11 View Post
    I said the same thing in 2016 AND put my money where my mouth is by betting Trump.

    Care to bet me? I will bet you anywhere from $1000 to $50,000.
    This is how invested the cult is into the election cycle snd Daddy Trump.. it's sad AF to see he got y'all investing $$ into the outcome lmfao

    Seek mental help lil boy
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    I believe that Biden is up, but the margins in reality are most likely tighter. For example the Biden +10's you see in Pennsylvania, Michigan etc are probably closer to Biden +3 or +4. Polling can of course be flawed, but we shouldn't just ignore them all.

    Also remember that Trump is deeply hated. Many people have a very personal hatred towards him. So answering the phone, you'll probably hear a lot of "Fuk Trump, put me down for Biden." That's easy though. The real question is will they actually come out to vote? That's why the election is a toss up imo. It'll come down to turnout. No one cares about Biden. If the Trump hatred is enough to make people turn out in droves to vote against him, Trump is screwed. But if the lack of Biden enthusiasm does wind up equaling meh turnout, then Trump's got a 2nd term.
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    Originally Posted by Jaydawg08 View Post
    This is how invested the cult is into the election cycle snd Daddy Trump.. it's sad AF to see he got y'all investing $$ into the outcome lmfao

    Seek mental help lil boy
    If you are so confident bet on your dog faced pony soldier.... Free money baby.

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    Honestly some of those debate ones look like money... anyone have a promo code?
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    Originally Posted by Jaydawg08 View Post
    This is how invested the cult is into the election cycle snd Daddy Trump.. it's sad AF to see he got y'all investing $$ into the outcome lmfao

    Seek mental help lil boy
    That's what I thought.

    My guess is you are probably lucky to have $48 in your bank account.

    Btw I won $25,000 on Trump in 2016.

    Have also made close to $5.5 Million in stock profits the past 4 years of Trump's Presidency.

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    Even if I were to accept that premise at face value I would just benchmark it. Compare unchanged methodologies year by year.

    You say poll x has flawed logic

    I say give me poll X"s data by election year and I'll just observe the trending within its own methodology. Then walk away satisfied at trump's underperformance
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    The polls certainly have been shown to have flaws with them, now and in the past. The way I look at it, regardless of what the polls say best to get out and vote. After the election is the time to figure out who conducted the best polling.
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    Originally Posted by John L View Post
    I believe that Biden is up, but the margins in reality are most likely tighter. For example the Biden +10's you see in Pennsylvania, Michigan etc are probably closer to Biden +3 or +4. Polling can of course be flawed, but we shouldn't just ignore them all.

    Also remember that Trump is deeply hated. Many people have a very personal hatred towards him. So answering the phone, you'll probably hear a lot of "Fuk Trump, put me down for Biden." That's easy though. The real question is will they actually come out to vote? That's why the election is a toss up imo. It'll come down to turnout. No one cares about Biden. If the Trump hatred is enough to make people turn out in droves to vote against him, Trump is screwed. But if the lack of Biden enthusiasm does wind up equaling meh turnout, then Trump's got a 2nd term.
    I was born and raised in Michigan. MI for the most part is pretty conservative out side of Detroit, Flint, and Grand Rapids. And they HATE their current gov. And I do mean hate. And she is a Dem.

    There is no way Biden is leading MI. No shot no way no how.
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    I was born and raised in Michigan. MI for the most part is pretty conservative out side of Detroit, Flint, and Grand Rapids. And they HATE their current gov. And I do mean hate. And she is a Dem.

    There is no way Biden is leading MI. No shot no way no how.
    Idk. It'll definitely be a close one. I don't know how you could say Biden has no shot to win Michigan. It was the closest state in the last presidential election. Your county or region of Michigan might be really conservative leaning but it's very hard to say how the state as a whole will wind up swinging.

    I live on eastern Long Island and the Trump support is through the roof here, flags everywhere, everyone hates Cuomo, etc. If you just went by my county you'd think New York would be in play for Trump, but he's got no chance here.
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    Originally Posted by Suit View Post
    Yes, these polls do poll both registered republicans and democrats. It is how they can say that they are asking both sides of the isles, plus independents.


    So here is what they are doing -

    1. Poll 50 "R" Registered suburbanites in Democratic Cities/States. The ones who are RINO's in other words.

    2. Poll 50 "D" Registered liberal areas.

    3. Avoid all areas of D or R that could possibly have moderate views or pro-Trump views.

    4. Claim polls are accurate representation since out of 100 people, 50 were R and 50 were D.

    5. ????????????

    6. I don't think there is a profit.
    At this point they're just making up whatever they want. Or taking legit poll results and straight up aborting them until they see fit.
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    Originally Posted by John L View Post
    Idk. It'll definitely be a close one. I don't know how you could say Biden has no shot to win Michigan. It was the closest state in the last presidential election. Your county or region of Michigan might be really conservative leaning but it's very hard to say how the state as a whole will wind up swinging.

    I live on eastern Long Island and the Trump support is through the roof here, flags everywhere, everyone hates Cuomo, etc. If you just went by my county you'd think New York would be in play for Trump, but he's got no chance here.
    Same here in CA now. Trump support is super high. Signs everywhere. Guns and ammo sold out. Gun ranges packed. We just elected a Rep congressman in a special election for my district here in S Ca.

    People are tired of the narrative being forced down their throats.
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    Originally Posted by OptimistPrime11 View Post
    Same here in CA now. Trump support is super high. Signs everywhere. Guns and ammo sold out. Gun ranges packed. We just elected a Rep congressman in a special election for my district here in S Ca.

    People are tired of the narrative being forced down their throats.
    We have a Rep congressmen here too and people love guns here. Trump will lose CA and NY by just as much as he did last time, though. Michigan will once again be really close too, I'd be surprised if it wasn't.
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    At this point they're just making up whatever they want. Or taking legit poll results and straight up aborting them until they see fit.
    Suit doesn't know what he is talking about.

    There is possibly a mixture of both. Most people in stats like pretending they are wizards so enough are trying to predict it for real.

    The issue is that Trumps voters are of a different demographic than most GOP voters and pollsters don't know how to capture the bluecollar vote.
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    Originally Posted by OptimistPrime11 View Post
    I was born and raised in Michigan. MI for the most part is pretty conservative out side of Detroit, Flint, and Grand Rapids. And they HATE their current gov. And I do mean hate. And she is a Dem.

    There is no way Biden is leading MI. No shot no way no how.
    Biden will easily win MI if 2018 is an indicator. Republicans got rekt in the midterms in Michigan. I don't think they like Trump as much as you think since he got exposed.
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    Originally Posted by LeftistGent View Post
    Biden will easily win MI if 2018 is an indicator. Republicans got rekt in the midterms in Michigan. I don't think they like Trump as much as you think since he got exposed.

    Won't happen. I have literally 100s of friends and family in MI. No one is voting Biden. And I am not exaggerating.

    It kind of amazes me how people outside of MI think that Michigan is some sort of Midwest Portland. It isn't. Exact opposite. It is 90% white, country music loving, hunting, snow mobile riding people outside of Detroit, Flint, and GR.

    As someone who was born, grew up, worked, and lived in MI almost all of my life, that is something you will just have to trust me on this. MI will be for Trump and it won't be too close.
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