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    AMD's Zen 3 to potentially outperform Intel's i9-10900k for gaming [Leak]

    Didn't think it possible, but not only is a Zen 3 allegedly outperforming the i9-10900k, allegedly it's "only" the R7 variant, not even the R9.

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    I think it's possible - and I have no real stake in this. I mean, I might switch from my 3900X to a 4800X, but will see overall - saw the rumors about 5Ghz boost 4900Xs too...but I doubt that's all core or sustainable even on single core.

    The great thing is that AMD keeps bringing it to Intel in the CPU space. Keep it coming!

    Also, saw the 4K tests...I'd rather see 1080p/1440p, as 4k tends to truly be gpu bound anyway.
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    If AMD + PCI-E 4.0 support outperfroms intel's, it's over boyos
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    AMD ryzen tends to have better IPC performance with lower core counts. The flagship ryzen chips often underperform their cheapest counterparts in most games.

    That being said, that doesn't mean it's not a great value.
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    weird they calling it a 5800X not a 4800. But they also have 4000 series laptop cpus that are based on the 3000 series desktop tech... confusing
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    Originally Posted by elterrible987 View Post
    weird they calling it a 5800X not a 4800. But they also have 4000 series laptop cpus that are based on the 3000 series desktop tech... confusing
    That is why they changed the naming scheme. To get the laptop and the desktop brands on the same naming scheme.

    They honestly should have stole Nvidia's old gpu naming scheme and just throw the letter designation behind it.
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    Completely unsurprising. Intel has gradually been making themselves and their CPU lineup irrelevant.

    The 10900K is one of their only chips that outperform even the current upper-middle market Ryzens.
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    If true.


    This will be nail in the coffin for Intel.




    Any ideas on price?


    Maybe its time to jump ship finally from Intel.
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    Originally Posted by Carbonfibre View Post
    If true.

    This will be nail in the coffin for Intel.

    Any ideas on price?

    Maybe its time to jump ship finally from Intel.
    I would guess +50 increase and removal of CPU cooler on the higher end. (This is based on no information whatsoever.)
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    Originally Posted by EmmaW4tson View Post
    KingSwrv on suicide watch. If AMD get their chit together on the GPU front its over for him. He might even go out and buy an Amega to recover from such an ethering.
    Nah he will just talk about "stability" in his experience....

    Which to be fair in the GPU front is still a real thing. Though we will see since Nvidia is still working out their bugs.
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    KingSwrv on suicide watch. If AMD get their chit together on the GPU front its over for him. He might even go out and buy an Amega to recover from such an ethering.
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    he'll be crying over driver issues that don't exist

    while intel is all up on 14nm+++++++++
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    sick of the AMD leakes. Show me the products.

    When in October is the reveals ?
    Ill sit this gen out regardless because I play at 4k but next year intel better move into their 10nm node (more like 7.9nm actual) otherwise they are toast
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    came in to call you guys beta cucks and felt annoyed at the lack of bringing up mention of the 2nd rate drivers but as I scrolled I saw you guys remembered you're cucks so its ok

    It honestly doesn't matter what the on paper performance is in a bubble. The real world landscapes still is and still will be biased towards having Intel and will be for a long time.

    Until you overcome that deficiency you haven't overcome nothing.

    So yeah you guys can stop acting like Intel is some old married wife you want to ditch for some young Redhead
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    Originally Posted by KingSWRV View Post
    came in to call you guys beta cucks and felt annoyed at the lack of bringing up mention of the 2nd rate drivers but as I scrolled I saw you guys remembered you're cucks so its ok

    It honestly doesn't matter what the on paper performance is in a bubble. The real world landscapes still is and still will be biased towards having Intel and will be for a long time.

    Until you overcome that deficiency you haven't overcome nothing.

    So yeah you guys can stop acting like Intel is some old married wife you want to ditch for some young Redhead
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    weird they calling it a 5800X not a 4800. But they also have 4000 series laptop cpus that are based on the 3000 series desktop tech... confusing
    it's not set in stone yet, but they do have 4000 series apu's, so they might end up skipping the 4000 naming scheme for the regular chips, and go straight to 5000.
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    who cares about a few fps more
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    Originally Posted by Alie865656 View Post
    who cares about a few fps more
    More FPS with the same GPU is nice, but for the most part we are above 120+ and it doesn't really matter.

    HOWEVER, this is about taking down the tyrant king. Intel became a greedy b@stard and stopped innovating after Skylake.

    IF they lose the crown for a generation or two they will have to compete via value and stop artificially limiting features to higher tier CPUs.
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    Originally Posted by Austanian View Post
    More FPS with the same GPU is nice, but for the most part we are above 120+ and it doesn't really matter.

    HOWEVER, this is about taking down the tyrant king. Intel became a greedy b@stard and stopped innovating after Skylake.

    IF they lose the crown for a generation or two they will have to compete via value and stop artificially limiting features to higher tier CPUs.
    How do you know if it’s because of tech limitations or not? You’re not at the board meetings.

    You state that they hold back but you don’t know if that’s actually true or not it’s just empty morbid speculation.

    Maybe that’s just where the limits are and it’s not some conspiracy to not give us good products.

    I think the CPUs are just fine and making good progress.
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    How do you know if it’s because of tech limitations or not? You’re not at the board meetings.

    You state that they hold back but you don’t know if that’s actually true or not it’s just empty morbid speculation.

    Maybe that’s just where the limits are and it’s not some conspiracy to not give us good products.

    I think the CPUs are just fine and making good progress.

    I dont think even the latest Intel CPU could process this amount of COPE that you perform for a globalist Corp such as Intel. Do you get kickbacks for spreading your drivel?
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    Originally Posted by KingSWRV View Post
    How do you know if it’s because of tech limitations or not? You’re not at the board meetings.

    You state that they hold back but you don’t know if that’s actually true or not it’s just empty morbid speculation.

    Maybe that’s just where the limits are and it’s not some conspiracy to not give us good products.

    I think the CPUs are just fine and making good progress.
    You also thought the 7700k was a significant step above the 6700k despite it being the same CPU with a 200mhz stock OC. So your idea of good progress might be different than the rest of us...

    Who need hyperthreading and more cores am I right?
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    It's not surprising AMD is great at the leaps. I suspect their culture is riskier. This of course can lead to more failures, but ultimately it bodes well for innovation. Often times the rich large company struggles with innovation because the risks are too great to the bottom line. This is why Tesla is beating the Automakers. Amazon is crushing Walmart for the same reason. Where I work is beating our big competitors too. We are revolutionizing our industry.
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    First it took the father, now it'll take the son.

    And crushed nvidia with big navi now it'll crush Intel for good
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    As if Intel couldn't be pounded any further into the ground - AMD keeps hammering if this is true.
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    And crushed nvidia with big navi
    Dumbest statement ITT. Congrats.
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    who cares about a few fps more
    Literally every Intel fanboy trying to cope with why they spent more on their CPU over AMD for 3% more FPS. lol
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    Originally Posted by Austanian View Post
    You also thought the 7700k was a significant step above the 6700k despite it being the same CPU with a 200mhz stock OC. So your idea of good progress might be different than the rest of us...

    Who need hyperthreading and more cores am I right?
    But it was also different architecture and had better streaming capacity along with the new mobos.

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    Literally every Intel fanboy trying to cope with why they spent more on their CPU over AMD for 3% more FPS. lol
    don’t forget the drivers haha
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    don’t forget the drivers haha
    Whatever you gotta tell yourself man.
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