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    Originally Posted by sy2502 View Post
    Ok sorry, I nerded out for a bit there. Back down to eart!

    Am I the only one that thought Chris Wallace must have had a bottle of scotch (or a bong) under the table and would take big hits every time the camera was not on him?
    (1) It was a compliment (2) I saw a bong.
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    Originally Posted by sy2502 View Post
    Ok sorry, I nerded out for a bit there. Back down to eart!

    Am I the only one that thought Chris Wallace must have had a bottle of scotch (or a bong) under the table and would take big hits every time the camera was not on him?
    If he did, it was a survival strategy.
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    For me the issue was about the rules and behavior. Because of the type and style of interruptions, many of the answers were inaudible. Trying to separate 2 voices talking at once and filter out the answers was exasperating. And when the agreed upon rules were tossed, then it became a free for all. What did we learn, little drips and drabs.
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    Originally Posted by Corbi View Post
    Chris Wallace did not handle the moderating well at all.
    Agreed. He was in a tough spot with the bickering, but a moderator at such an event should be able to bring order.

    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    Because of the type and style of interruptions, many of the answers were inaudible. Trying to separate 2 voices talking at once and filter out the answers was exasperating. And when the agreed upon rules were tossed, then it became a free for all. What did we learn, little drips and drabs.
    I didn't learn a damn thing, so now the "media" has to tell me what I missed. hmmm....
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    it was so bad that they are changing the rules....The Commission on Presidential Debates on Wednesday put out a highly unusual notice about making changes to debate formats just hours after President Donald Trump spent a good chunk of Tuesday night’s 90-minute debate interrupting Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden.

    “Last night’s debate made clear that additional structure should be added to the format of the remaining debates to ensure a more orderly discussion of the issues,” the commission said. “The CPD will be carefully considering the changes it will adopt and will announce those measures shortly.”
    What are they going to do put shock collars on them?
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    Originally Posted by Fishman15 View Post
    What are they going to do put shock collars on them?

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    Originally Posted by Oceanside View Post
    Why ? its not like we were going to learn anything even if he wasn't interrupting...

    why on earth would we expect Trump to do a 180 just because someone imposed these "rules of engagement" ?

    the reason he was elected in the first place was because he's a loose cannon and now all of a sudden people expect him to conform to some set of rules ?

    it was pure comedy !
    I think trump did himself a disservice by interrupting Biden I think he should have left him hang himself, he in fact saved him a couple of times.

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    Frankly, I'm surprised that you're surprised. Trump has never been anything different. When you "let Trump be Trump," this is what you get.

    That, and the Proud Boys are proud.
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    A guy on IG I follow summed it up pretty well. He said that the debate is a good reflection of not only how our politicians are acting and communicating to each other, but also how we as a society are.

    I thought it was an interesting analogy.
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    Originally Posted by Fishman15 View Post
    What are they going to do put shock collars on them?
    I heard cut off the mic , and move the camera away back to the moderator. Then they are talking to themselves.

    "Mr Trump’s interruptions – which a count by CBS News clocked at 73/ Fox counted 145 – had most of the focus overnight. It is a familiar tactic for Mr Trump, who interrupted Hillary Clinton 51 times in their first presidential debate back in 2016."


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    Originally Posted by Fishman15 View Post
    What are they going to do put shock collars on them?
    That's a pretty good idea actually. Then auction off the moderator job to at least make it fun to watch
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    Originally Posted by sumolgi View Post
    That's a pretty good idea actually. Then auction off the moderator job to at least make it fun to watch
    The wimpiest spokesperson from Cspan got the job.
    You think that Chris Wallace got steamrolled.........just wait.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...al-debate.html
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    I was disappointed in the debate and felt that both of them lost. Trump re-affirmed my opinion that he's not ready for the big chair and Biden confirmed my opinion that his mental faculties aren't up to that sort of stress any more. I will say that Biden wasn't quite as bad off as I expected, but that was a pretty low bar. I don't particularly like either of their politics and their VP picks are even worse. Can we get rid of all of them and have a do over?
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    Originally Posted by blue9steel View Post
    Can we get rid of all of them and have a do over?
    That would be clearly irrational.

    Same system, same voters, same culture wars. You expect different results?
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    Originally Posted by ElrondHubbard View Post
    That would be clearly irrational.

    Same system, same voters, same culture wars. You expect different results?
    It's a chaotic system so yes. It would be hard to do worse, though I should be careful saying that, it is 2020 after all.
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    Originally Posted by blue9steel View Post
    It's a chaotic system so yes. It would be hard to do worse, though I should be careful saying that, it is 2020 after all.
    That's a good point.

    But politics is more than chaotic, there's a strange attractor in their somewhere.
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    Originally Posted by ElrondHubbard View Post
    That's a good point.

    But politics is more than chaotic, there's a strange attractor in their somewhere.
    When politics is handled through democratic means, it is the product of its society. Our politics is the reflection of the state of our society, maybe amplified and exasperated, but it didn't just fall from the sky.
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    Elrond, who are the proud boys? The debate is the first I’ve heard of em?

    After checking Lurch’s Google all I saw was right wing hate group and they clashed with Antifia?

    Elrond I know you are extremely biased but can you deliver any proof that this group destroys has commited beatings, hangings?

    Basically can even prove they are any different than BLM?

    I think groups like this are dumb, but unlike you I’m not bias I’ll condem BOTH of them groups as being racist in thier beliefs.

    Can you man up too, Elrond?
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    Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    Elrond, who are the proud boys? The debate is the first I’ve heard of em?

    After checking Lurch’s Google all I saw was right wing hate group and they clashed with Antifia?

    Elrond I know you are extremely biased but can you deliver any proof that this group destroys has commited beatings, hangings?

    Basically can even prove they are any different than BLM?

    I think groups like this are dumb, but unlike you I’m not bias I’ll condem BOTH of them groups as being racist in thier beliefs.

    Can you man up too, Elrond?
    Why are you asking me? The information is at your fingertips. Look it up.
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    Originally Posted by ElrondHubbard View Post
    Why are you asking me? The information is at your fingertips. Look it up.
    Cause you seem to know what’s lies and what isn’t AND you mentioned the proud boys, you never mention BLM.

    I’ve seen vids of BLM, but I can’t find a damn thing or a damn hate crime by the proud boys?

    So I’m calling you out, since you brought up thier name in this thread.
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    Elrond, Proud boys fought some antifia, that’s all I found and they are called white supremists?

    Fighting Antifia is no hate crime, Antifia is well known for thier hate screaming and destruction.

    You said these white superemist groups are the greatest threat?

    Now prove it, show us a story?
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    Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    Elrond, Proud boys fought some antifia, that’s all I found and they are called white supremists?

    Fighting Antifia is no hate crime, Antifia is well known for thier hate screaming and destruction.

    You said these white superemist groups are the greatest threat?

    Now prove it, show us a story?
    That's all you found? Seriously? If you really want to argue this stuff, you should come in with some real information, otherwise all you have is prejudice, assumptions, and gobbledygook, and you waste other people's time.
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    Originally Posted by ElrondHubbard View Post
    That's all you found? Seriously? If you really want to argue this stuff, you should come in with some real information, otherwise all you have is prejudice, assumptions, and gobbledygook, and you waste other people's time.
    Prove it, seems like you can’t?

    And yup, that’s all I found.
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    Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    Prove it, seems like you can’t?

    And yup, that’s all I found.
    Go listen to Gavin McInnes speak on his podcast. Theres your answer.
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    Originally Posted by Jtbny View Post
    Go listen to Gavin McInnes speak on his podcast. Theres your answer.
    Podcast is not real news, even El could tell you that.

    Get real, I’m not defending them, I’m callling out this guy EL who’s a bias hipocrasy.
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    Originally Posted by Jtbny View Post
    Go listen to Gavin McInnes speak on his podcast. Theres your answer.
    I don’t know if McInnes is a white supremacist. But I do know he's an @sshole, batsh*t crazy, and a contrarian for the sake of contrarianism. So any movement that looks to him for leadership probably isn't recruiting the best and brightest.
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    Originally Posted by 7Seconds View Post
    I don’t know if McInnes is a white supremacist. But I do know he's an @sshole, batsh*t crazy, and a contrarian for the sake of contrarianism. So any movement that looks to him for leadership probably isn't recruiting the best and brightest.

    Maybe same with BLM? But Punks like El won’t admit it???? Or you too???? You seem like one like El to me?????
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    Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    Maybe same with BLM? But Punks like El won’t admit it???? Or you too???? You seem like one like El to me?????

    I agree, BLM as an organization is run by sh*theads. That being said, the movement against police violence, which they (the BLM organization) pushed for, grew nationwide because a plurality of people of all ethnicities and ages are tired of the militarized police state and the growth of poverty clusters within communities due to the failed war on drugs.

    I believe the majority of the people protesting aren’t there because they support abolishing law enforcement or they want to burn down a restaurant and steal shoes from a Foot Locker. They just want more of a sense of community service from the police.
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    Originally Posted by 7Seconds View Post
    I agree, BLM as an organization is run by sh*theads. That being said, the movement against police violence, which they (the BLM organization) pushed for, grew nationwide because a plurality of people of all ethnicities and ages are tired of the militarized police state and the growth of poverty clusters within communities due to the failed war on drugs.

    I believe the majority of the people protesting aren’t there because they support abolishing law enforcement or they want to burn down a restaurant and steal shoes from a Foot Locker. They just want more of a sense of community service from the police.

    Drugs and drug money are the root of the problem, lack of balls is another part of the problem that steams from the fear of not agreeing with your homies and becoming something.

    Many of these poverty clusters are controlled by black Congress men and women, maybe they had good in mind when getting or maybe not, but they are defiantly on the take one way or another.
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    Originally Posted by 7Seconds View Post
    I don’t know if McInnes is a white supremacist. But I do know he's an @sshole, batsh*t crazy, and a contrarian for the sake of contrarianism. So any movement that looks to him for leadership probably isn't recruiting the best and brightest.
    No, he's not a white supremacist and no he is not the leader of a movement.

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