Been watching all these strength lifters on instagram pump out big bench numbers for many reps and I can only do 225 pound bench test for 17 reps after 3 months of training (started out doing 5 reps). I am wondering will I get this strong if I eat as much as they do to gain the same weight and train for as long as they did will I pretty much be able to lift the same. Leads me to wonder does genetics play a part in how strong you can physically get, are people like Eddie Hall who deadlift 500kg able to maintain, handle and gain strength and muscle more than other people out there given they go through the same training process? Kinda looks like it because he has huge calves, abs and muscle all over the place at a really heavy weight and makes me wonder is this through training alone or genetics plays a part also?
So for some no matter how hard they train and gain muscle mass will they always be unable to lift as much as someone who trains the same way and time but has different genetics?
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09-26-2020, 12:41 AM #1
Does genetics give us different strength limits?
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09-26-2020, 12:45 AM #2
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Short answer is yes but other factors - like hard work and consistency tend to be underestimated. Genetics is often used as an excuse by many when the problem was work ethic.
Strongerbyscience has a series about your natural genetic potential. Read that if you want the long answer.
Ultimately, you can't change your genetics so this question will not give you any practical advice.
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09-26-2020, 02:04 AM #3
Only? Seriously, wtf. After 6 months of training I could do 148 for 5 reps at age 30.
Genetics plays a huge role in many things in life and weight training is no exception. Under the similar conditions: of training, diet, sleep, ...one person in the same demographic can literally lift 3 times more than another."Is he an honest man? If he is, you should respect him and let him continue with his work. Is he weak? If it were so, it would not be brave thing to do to push a man who is falling."
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09-26-2020, 05:58 AM #6
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It's not generally helpful to look at top sportsmen - because you can't separate out the work ethic from that natural gift. Most people have no idea how hard pro sportspeople work to get where they are. The selection procedure choose BOTH the genetically superiour and the hard working.
OP, forget worlds strongest man - or even nationals. Perhaps regional competition - look at the guy who came fifth and he probably has similar genetics to you (but will still be much stronger than almost everyone here).Last edited by SuffolkPunch; 09-26-2020 at 06:07 AM.
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09-26-2020, 06:30 AM #7
I only brought it up because he was specifically asking about poster status individuals like on instagram. Everything you said about hard work is absolutely true -- these people just train as a job dedicatedly. All that being said, it's not hard to imagine that the differentiation in genetics and/or natural talent is plain remarkable.
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09-26-2020, 06:54 AM #8
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09-26-2020, 12:36 PM #14
I don't really get the point of these kinds of posts anyway. No two people have anywhere near the exact same training, nutrition, sleep, consistency, discipline, stresses, etc. over a lifetime so genetics can't be pointed to as the sole difference between strength of 2 people anyway.
And anyone dedicated to being the biggest or strongest likely is taking something that would make any maximum genetic strength or size potential irrelevant anyway.
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09-27-2020, 03:01 AM #17
Thanks, I understand now!
Also is the 225 Bench Test a test of strength as well as stamina, I'm thinking that if you can do heaps a reps with a weight that is light to you, does that mean you will be able to lift some higher weight for decent reps or just have a higher 1 rep max than someone who can't lift 225 that much, does that mean the world record bench holder can bench 225 for many reps or not?
Thanks in advance !
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09-28-2020, 07:14 PM #22
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These questions are dumb for several reasons. Of course genetics matter, just like they do for literally everything from height, handsize to the hair on your head. Secondly, you can't change your genetics so why worry about it. Thirdly, almost no one will ever actually reach their genetic limit so its irrelevant for 99.9% of people anyways.
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You limit yourself poosy, enhance your genetics through heavy lifting and studying so when eugenics happens your chitty offspring have a chance
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