Republicans such as yourself are interested in casting doubt on the American electoral system, the bedrock of our government. You want to use claims of nine missing ballots, or 20 foreign nationals voting illegally, to argue that there's underlying "massive democrat liberal marxist fraud" or whatever. You seemingly can't distinguish nuance, given the fact that we're not talking here about whether or not voter fraud "is fine" (dumb question I mean honestly a really phucking stupid question to ask) but rather does this vast conspiracy of massive voter fraud that the extreme right is attempting to perpetuate, with Trump, actually exist? The obvious answer, to anyone that looks at basic facts, is no, that there are instances of voter fraud but they are so few and far between that they have zero impact on the results of our elections, are easily caught, and swiftly prosecuted.
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09-25-2020, 10:28 AM #64
Every poll is a poll on a popular vote. Pollsters go and ask who people are voting for. That's what the polls are.
In order to model the EC victory you have to have a ton of polling done on a state-by-state basis, and then aggregate them up into a full national EC map. We have that now, and Biden has a roughly 80% chance to win the EC based on it.
I have no concern for your dumb youtube video because we can just look at what the polls showed in 2016, and they were accurate for what they were polling - Hillary indeed did win the popular vote.
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More like, I'm interested in maintaining the integrity of our system. Which is why I'm against illegal immigrants voting and would prefer more ID verification in the process. I can't speak to other states but in California in particular is hilarious that you don't even need to show ID to vote, but I get carded for a Swisher (and cops will proactively bust shops that don't card).
Seems a little backwards. At any rate these are just the cases we know about...the prosecutions coupled with the Veritas footage should make anyone worried. And Republicans do it to by the way, but there's been more damning cases among democrats.
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09-25-2020, 10:34 AM #66
A pollster finally called me the other week. I guess they are calling cell phones now? Anyways, I told them how much i hated Trump and couldn't wait to vote for Biden. I'm ridin with Biden in the polls but with Trump in the booth.
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There is zero evidence that non-US citizens, illegal or otherwise, are voting in US elections on any meaningful scale. The idea of "mass illegal immigrants voting fraudulently" is a republican fairy tale.
these are just the cases we know about...
the prosecutions
coupled with the Veritas footage
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09-25-2020, 10:37 AM #69
Can't imagine why anyone wouldn't want to vote for a questionable child lover who can't formulate a coherent sentence, is always confused, has had two strokes, constantly talks about how his handlers wont be happy with him, who son is funneled money from foreign countries, who celebrates criminal as martyrs, et cetera...
This guy is obvious the choice to be the strong willed leader of the free world.
Who else has the backbone, ability and inspiring leadership to stand up to a stronger than ever China who is flexing on the world and subverting the rights of free nations (across the globe at this point).
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I'm guessing you didn't see the recent study regarding the "silent majority"? The study explained that over 10% of those voting for Trump will not voluntarily admit to voting for Trump.
Polls are BS. But go ahead and put your faith in them. The libs looked like complete idiots in 2016 and they will again in 2020.Last edited by jeffl1980; 09-25-2020 at 11:01 AM.
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09-25-2020, 10:47 AM #73
because they have low IQs and are brainwashed by the media (srs). just look at the straight up cognitive dissonance from people like Trapstar (LMAO at that user name) and JLay87. Like it's a proven fact that Hunter Biden has shady foreign business deals. the same thing they tried to say trump had but even Robert Mueller said wasn't the case. yet they continue to think that orange man is bad and are going to happily march in to the booth to vote for a guy with 2 brain cells and low energy.
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Polls in 2016 measured the popular vote and were extremely accurate. We now also have polls that determine both candidates' odds of winning the EC, which trump has never led in, either. Always funny when Trump supporters try to claim the polls were wrong in 2016 when they were in fact incredibly accurate. It goes to show that you put zero thought into what you're actually spewing, and just repeat what you're told like a good cult follower, despite being a five second google search away from being disproven.
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This is what Dems have to worry about if these polls tighten - the silent vote. I haven't seen the study that shows over 10% of Trump voters won't admit it; that seems pretty high. Regardless, whatever it is I think it's definitely enough to tilt the election in his favor in a close race.
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Isn't it cute that uneducated troglodyte leftists still actually think calling Trump voters "cultists" is a valid argument, while their limited self awareness prevents them from realizing that simultaneously spending every moment on the r/p absolutely REEEEEIIIIIINNNNNNGGGGG on literally any Trump news, literally down to how he orders steak, actually makes them cultists?
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