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    How long does it take to reach about 90 percent of your genetic potential?

    Yes, I admit. I mostly lift for looks. Also lift for a potential encounter with a criminal.
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    If it helps Paul, I wouldn't want to run into you were I in the midst of committing a crime
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    Assuming you do everything perfect ?

    Probably 4-5 years.
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    Originally Posted by paulinkansas View Post
    Yes, I admit. I mostly lift for looks. Also lift for a potential encounter with a criminal.
    Not sure what lifting and self-defense have in common, plenty of bodybuilders, powerlifters, and Oly lifters have been knocked TF out by 5’2” manlets with the skill and instinct to do so.

    That said, maybe you should take up Muay Thai?

    If I missed the point of your post don’t mind me, I have a sinus headache and it’s way past my self-imposed bed time.
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    Originally Posted by paulinkansas View Post
    Also lift for a potential encounter with a criminal.
    I'm sure it also helps that you always seem to be making artillery shells and other ammo in between sets.
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    Just making sure we're on the same page here:

    Genetic Potential = Fat Free Mass ?

    To reach your peak Fat Free Mass Index, some people stop as short as an FFMI of 21 naturally, which can still be very aesthetic.

    Something like one out of multiple millions, genetic lottery winner, could reach an FFMI of 26 naturally.

    If your limit is on the higher end, it means it could take you a lot longer to get to your limit.

    There are several FFMI growth models according to training age that have differences, but most seem to suggest your progress will become significantly slower/snail's pace around 4/5 years into perfect training.

    There are more elements involved in aesthetics, however.

    You may want to not only be at 90% of your best possible FFMI, but you may ALSO want to have a body fat % that is sustainably low / casual model level of around 12% BF. That will add a ton more time trimming down slow enough to maintain the most amount of fat free mass. Losing weight at a rate of something like 0.5% bodyweight a week for the better part of a year for example.

    So yeah, around 4/5 years in, you could probably get to most of your potential, but it would take more time to get most of your potential PLUS aesthetic body fat %

    I want to compete before I turn 40 so I've had a bit of time to give this some thought. The way I look at it is that it's a LOOOONG journey, so I'm trying to find different aspects of the journey to enjoy and appreciate instead of focusing on the 'finish line'. Keep it fun

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    Originally Posted by paulinkansas View Post
    Yes, I admit. I mostly lift for looks.

    Also lift for a potential encounter with a criminal.
    Well, you are the 99%. Me too.


    Same here. But I would need a spotter, of course.
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    If everything was being done right, consistently, without too much time off - i'd say a few decades(at least) before reaching that close to a person's full potential. And it's good that it would take longer. The more time you can keep the development continuing, the better.
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