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    Woman nearly choked to death at this piano bar last night

    Cliffs:
    -Woman chokes on steak bites
    -Volunteer fireman tries to help but i think he is inexperienced
    -I jumped in and do Heimlich but cant get Bolus to move
    -EMT joins and we lay her on side and she coughs it up
    -She was knockin on heaven's door
    -Someone nearly died and we all went back to drinking
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    Went out with some friends last night to this piano bar. Was nice to get out, the lady singing was very talented but her amps and speakers were turned all the way up to 11, it was loud as fuk and she pretty much only played R&B/Pop stuff.

    Anyway, my back was towards the door so I only saw what was going on when my friend's wife saw the scene and brought it up. Lady was choking and a guy wearing a Volunteer Fire Dept shirt was helping her but he was being gentle with her and barely using any force. After about 10-12 gentle squeezes, she goes limp and he (i guess) panics and just lets her slowly fall to the ground. SO i step in and pick her up (she wasnt huge but she wasnt small and wasnt laying flat on her back) and started the Heimlich.

    I'm a BIG fella and I definitely wasnt gentle. I felt ribs popping. She didnt go to the hospital so i know they werent broken. But I couldnt get the bolus to move at all. Her head was just rolling all over the place. Lips blue but in the pale light of the bar they looked black. You know how women take (IIRC) those pencil lip liners and line their lips so the outside looks darker than the rest? That's what goes dark first. Eyes SUPER bloodshot with the thousand yard stare. MISC...i tried so hard and nothing worked.

    Luckily an actual EMT was there and he took over and laid her down and roll her onto her side. As soon as we did that she coughed it up. Instantly i felt a huge wave of relief but I also felt like I had failed too, even though I know I did exactly what I was supposed to. But i'm just glad she lived. She was so close to being a goner.

    I am always shocked at how people are useless in high stress situations but I also know that not everyone has the constitution to rise up and accept the responsibility. I didnt immediately jump in to help until the Volunteer FD guy just let her flop to the ground. But I did get a quick glance around the room (because i had to drag her out from under the table and that required me to reposition) and there were 7 or 8 guys ready to help if given direction so that was comforting.

    If you guys have the time, get CPR certified. You could save a life. Ive been certified several times but I let it lapse after my back surgery. Will work on getting it renewed now.

    Edit: I forgot to mention (this isnt that vital to the story) but the woman never made any choking signs (the universal I'm choking "hands on the throat" sign). She seemed somewhat calm but didnt react liek a typical choking victim would. But man was she turning blue quick. I'd say the whole think lasted 2.5 minutes easily. I sat by for 30 seconds at least watching the first FD volunteer do the Heimlich and then i stepped in and did them for probably a min, maybe more. But i have no idea how long she had been choking before i turned my attention to her
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    did she choke on the D later?
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    Originally Posted by Ravishing_Rick View Post
    did she choke on the D later?
    you wouldnt wanna ponder that if you saw her. I had trouble wrapping my bear arms around her
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    I’m sure whatever you did helped. I can’t see the recovery position doing that alone.
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    Nice job dude. I did that for my mom once. I know that feeling of it not working, and then suddenly it just works. Good on you man.
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    Good on ya, OP.


    I know it probably would've been hugely inappropriate, but I would have LOL'd if you handed her back the piece of steak after she coughed it up and said "you dropped this".


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    Originally Posted by 2am View Post
    thicc chick chokes on meat then gets pumped by three dudes til she spits

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    I’m sure whatever you did helped. I can’t see the recovery position doing that alone.
    Maybe. I remember just feeling that relief when she coughed it up. I guess the change in position/gravity was enough to move it
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    Nice job dude. I did that for my mom once. I know that feeling of it not working, and then suddenly it just works. Good on you man.
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    did she choke on the D later?
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    Maybe. I remember just feeling that relief when she coughed it up. I guess the change in position/gravity was enough to move it

    Chit i scary right? Fortunately, i am far more logical/methodical than I am emotional so i can almost turn that part of my brain off seemingly. It's a huge advantage most of the time but it has fukked me over in relationships
    You’re right, gravity does play a big role. Didn’t consider that. Laying her on her side would have changed the gravitational forces and also open her airway. Also why you lean children/adults forward if giving back blows and for infants you hold them in a head down position.
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    did she choke on the D later?
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    Originally Posted by GordonXXX View Post
    some things to consider -

    Mississippi Good Samaritan and Duty to Rescue Laws

    https://bobgermanylaw.com/mississipp...o-rescue-laws/
    Wow...I recall learning abotu the samaritan laws and ppossibly getting sued for battery. Also lol at this being a plug for Germany Law Firm PLLC
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    They taught CPR at my public highschool. I didn't learn a thing unfortunately
    It wasnt an option for us i dont think. I cant imagine too many high school kids would care about this
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    Can an EMT brah explain why the recovery position is so useful for coughing up chit? Wouldn't they be able to do it conscious standing up regardless?
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    lady at work was choking on a piece of chicken and i had to do the heimlich on her. pretty fukken awkward but she was so shameless that she wasn't embarrassed at all lol
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    Originally Posted by Pterodactyl314 View Post
    You’re right, gravity does play a big role. Didn’t consider that. Laying her on her side would have changed the gravitational forces and also open her airway. Also why you lean children/adults forward if giving back blows and for infants you hold them in a head down position.
    I wonder if tipping someone completely upside down would help. Probably just in a high/light obstruction and not in a deep trachea obstruction
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    Bro you did what you needed to. No shame in that.
    I mean yeah, but it was a human life on the line where failure isnt really a viable option
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    Originally Posted by BulkingIsHard View Post
    Can an EMT brah explain why the recovery position is so useful for coughing up chit? Wouldn't they be able to do it conscious standing up regardless?
    Not emt (red cross instructor). I’m not aware of the recovery position being used for choking victims, the next step would have been cpr for an unconscious choking victim. The recovery position does open and clear the airway with the help of gravity. It is good for preventing choking, like when you have a passed out drunk friend.
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    Can an EMT brah explain why the recovery position is so useful for coughing up chit? Wouldn't they be able to do it conscious standing up regardless?
    IIRC correctly, they wont aspirate vomit and the airways stay open
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    lady at work was choking on a piece of chicken and i had to do the heimlich on her. pretty fukken awkward but she was so shameless that she wasn't embarrassed at all lol
    Probably just embarrassed and tried to play it off. Probably what i'd do

    I used to work in a restauraunt and a guy choked on his prime rib, he IMMEDIATELY started flailing knocking over stuff. Someone, though, immediately jumped up and did the heimlich and he was ok. He laughed it off but I caught a few glances at him later on and I caught the impression that it effected him more than he was letting on
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    Originally Posted by Pterodactyl314 View Post
    Not emt (red cross instructor). I’m not aware of the recovery position being used for choking victims, the next step would have been cpr for an unconscious choking victim. The recovery position does open and clear the airway with the help of gravity.
    Duly noted. I gotta tell you bro, this has really opened my eyes. I know a lot of random chit about exercise physiology and medical stuff and I did what I was supposed to last night but man.......I spent the rest of the night thinking....WTF would I have done if that EMT wasnt there? I wouldnt have though about laying her on her side. That lady would might have died in my arms. Ive seen my share of deaths so its not like it would be a new thing, but this would be the first time I was on the opposite side of the coin and in the driver's seat to prevent it. I mean, ive been trained in basic medical response and cpr etc but that is a perishable skill that you need to water regularly like plants. I'm kind of kicking myself for letting it go like i have. I guess i've been on autopilot telling myself "it's been years since ive been in that situation so it will probably be years again"
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    Thanks brother. Would gladly drink with you/10

    IIRC correctly, they wont aspirate vomit and the airways stay open

    Probably just embarrassed and tried to play it off. Probably what i'd do

    I used to work in a restauraunt and a guy choked on his prime rib, he IMMEDIATELY started flailing knocking over stuff. Someone, though, immediately jumped up and did the heimlich and he was ok. He laughed it off but I caught a few glances at him later on and I caught the impression that it effected him more than he was letting on
    Choking is srs business, I’ll never forget the mozzarella stick that damn near killed me.
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    Good work man. Whenever you're in those situations, you HAVE to go hard. Same with CPR.
    Best to crack a few rib than having them die.
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    Originally Posted by superman704 View Post
    Op do me a favor, draw your avi pic again, but these time remove the fat cheeks. Thanks.
    ouch man. Ouch. You are uninvited to my birthday party. You like that? Hows it feel? You did to yourself.

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