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    Post 1500 kcal vs 2500 kcal what's better for a natural to grow while loosing fat.

    Hi, two scenarios

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    moderated protein-fat-carbs 1500 kcal


    SCENARIO B
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    or High protein-carbs and moderated fat with more series/reps and more cardio (the scenario A has cardio too) 2500 kcal

    Same total calories burnt at last,

    Which one will provide more gains and less fat and why?


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    Originally Posted by NaturalMASSIVE View Post
    Hi, two scenarios

    SCENARIO A
    --------
    moderated protein-fat-carbs 1500 kcal


    SCENARIO B
    --------
    or High protein-carbs and moderated fat with more series/reps and more cardio (the scenario A has cardio too) 2500 kcal

    Same total calories burnt at last,

    Which one will provide more gains and less fat and why?


    thanks!!!!!
    If everything else was equated, calorie burn included, and assuming they both hit their minimums for protein and fat, the person consuming more calories will have more fat gains and more POTENTIAL muscle gains. Since calorie burn is equal, the person eating 2.5k has 1000 extra calories to go towards recovery, adaptation, and storing potential. They will gain more fat surely, and maybe more muscle.

    However, I can't see anyone (especially males) having much success building any kind of muscle eating 1.5k calories...

    EDIT: To add, even with everything being assumed to be equal, the question is complicated and doesn't have a correct sure-fire answer.
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    Originally Posted by Nicksosure1 View Post
    If everything else was equated, calorie burn included, and assuming they both hit their minimums for protein and fat, the person consuming more calories will have more fat gains and more POTENTIAL muscle gains. Since calorie burn is equal, the person eating 2.5k has 1000 extra calories to go towards recovery, adaptation, and storing potential. They will gain more fat surely, and maybe more muscle.

    However, I can't see anyone (especially males) having much success building any kind of muscle eating 1.5k calories...

    EDIT: To add, even with everything being assumed to be equal, the question is complicated and doesn't have a correct sure-fire answer.
    Thanks for you reply bro. The point is in a "Maintenment" state while not overfeed on calories nor intended to loose fat, 1000 kcal out on exercise or not.
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    Originally Posted by NaturalMASSIVE View Post
    Thanks for you reply bro. The point is in a "Maintenment" state while not overfeed on calories nor intended to loose fat, 1000 kcal out on exercise or not.
    Well, you're not going to maintain anything with a net daily intake of 1500 calories unless you're a sedentary 4'-6" female.
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    Well, you're not going to maintain anything with a net daily intake of 1500 calories unless you're a sedentary 4'-6" female.
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    You can't grow muscle without exercise; if you eat little without exercising, you would just look skinny. It's better to eat more and train so that the muscles grow. Keep the fat percentage low through aerobics.
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    Originally Posted by anthonynathan View Post
    Keep the fat percentage low through aerobics.
    You keep the fat percentages low by being in a weekly calorie deficit. Aerobic exercise is not a requirement.
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