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    Red face Is there any reason at all to buy an Xbox One Series X if you already own a PC?

    Already own a RTX 2070S which can do 4k medium-high and sometimes ultra. Im pretty sure poverty consoles won’t be running 4k ultra and the games that are 120fps will probably run at 480p resolution


    Really wanted new xbox cuz I think it looks aesthetic and I like xbox, but I already own an xbox one x too

    Already own game pass ultimate for halo and gears too.

    So any reason?
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    Well your premises are faulty...

    First the Xbox GPU is more powerful than your computers and system optimization means you don't have to watch a youtube video seeing what settings you can turn down to boost FPS without significantly hurting graphic quality.

    IF the GPU can do 4k/60 it can do 2k/120.

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    To answer your title question. Your 2070(S) is in the 96th percentile of GPUs according to Steam. Meaning for $500 85% of gamers will get a substantial upgrade.


    FOR YOU there isn't really a reason unless you have kids.
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    Originally Posted by Austanian View Post
    Well your premises are faulty...

    First the Xbox GPU is more powerful than your computers and system optimization means you don't have to watch a youtube video seeing what settings you can turn down to boost FPS without significantly hurting graphic quality.

    IF the GPU can do 4k/60 it can do 2k/120.

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    To answer your title question. Your 2070(S) is in the 96th percentile of GPUs according to Steam. Meaning for $500 85% of gamers will get a substantial upgrade.


    FOR YOU there isn't really a reason unless you have kids.

    The xbox gpu is more powerful according to what? Terraflops? Lol’d


    Not sure if srs

    Thats like saying a tundra on par with a ferrari because they both have 8 cylinders



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    Originally Posted by Merc009 View Post
    The xbox gpu is more powerful? Lmao according to what? Terrafloooops? Lol’d
    The 2070(S) is roughly 10% better than the 5700XT.

    The 5700XT is on RDNA 1 with 40 compute units clocked at 1830 MHZ
    The Xbox Series X is on RDNA 2 with 52 compute units clocked at 1.825 (probably more like 1.7 gameclock) MHZ with 16 GB of shared GDDR 6 memory. (Where your system is running on GDDR4 and only your GPU is running on GDDR6.)

    The PS5 GPU will be more on par with yours.
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    Just use the money to upgrade your GPU. While MS back pedaled on all Xbox exclusives also being PC, I think the money is better spent on a gpu upgrade or gamepass or something
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    Originally Posted by Austanian View Post
    The 2070(S) is roughly 10% better than the 5700XT.

    The 5700XT is on RDNA 1 with 40 compute units clocked at 1830 MHZ
    The Xbox Series X is on RDNA 2 with 52 compute units clocked at 1.825 (probably more like 1.7 gameclock) MHZ with 16 GB of shared GDDR 6 memory. (Where your system is running on GDDR4 and only your GPU is running on GDDR6.)

    The PS5 GPU will be more on par with yours.

    You keep bringing up all these technical specs that are meaningless in real world gameplay. Halo looks like ass, it will run at 4k60 because everything looks like a cardboard cutout. PS5’s spiderman game wont even run at 4k 60fps, its either 4k or 60fps. My 2070S has been doing 4k 60 fps on every game I have thrown at it (maybe not on ultra settings for all).


    Their flagship titles which are supposed to show off the console fail to even beat last gen.


    They really dropped the ball on next gen, everything should be GUARANTEED 4k60 at least
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    So ignore the specs and math and go with your feels... Seems like a plan...
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    Xbox is for povertycels, a $1k non-amd PC will outperform the next gen xbox and have all the games + more.

    only reason to buy one is if you have povertycel friends who play on live.
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    Originally Posted by Merc009 View Post
    You keep bringing up all these technical specs that are meaningless in real world gameplay. Halo looks like ass, it will run at 4k60 because everything looks like a cardboard cutout. PS5’s spiderman game wont even run at 4k 60fps, its either 4k or 60fps. My 2070S has been doing 4k 60 fps on every game I have thrown at it (maybe not on ultra settings for all).


    Their flagship titles which are supposed to show off the console fail to even beat last gen.


    They really dropped the ball on next gen, everything should be GUARANTEED 4k60 at least



    Is there a point on playing pc if you cant go all ultra tho hehe.
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    Get PS5 if you want the exclusives or if your friends play PlayStation online. Might as well save $100 and go for the "Digital" version, unless you insist on hard copy discs.

    Get RTX 30 / Big NAVI / AMD Zen 3 / Intel's 11th if you want the best gaming system to tackle next gen with for 1440p 144+ FPS or 4k 60+/100+ FPS.

    Get Xbox Series X if you don't have a PC and/or don't want to blow $1000+ on PC parts, you don't care about the PS5 exclusives, your friends play Xbox, and you're keen on the savings in money from the All Access subscription for XSX console and games, and you want the "best" performing console.

    Don't get Xbox Series S.

    Get Nintendo Switch if you're not worried about Nintendo's upcoming projects and want the exclusives / local multiplayer games.
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    Depends. Is your PC more powerful than the SX? If so, then not too many reasons to get it. Only things I can think of is better Gamepass options, HDR on all games, and don't have to play with PC cheaters.
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    So was OP trying to make a dig at the Series X but got completely tech-mogged and then got all emotional? Ah, gamers. Gotta love em.
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    On the graphics side, we knew the Xbox Series X was tapping a custom GPU based on AMD's next-generation RDNA 2 architecture. Microsoft previously said it would serve up 12 TFLOPs of graphics power. It's hard to glean too much from a TFLOPs figure, but now Microsoft has revealed it will feature 52 compute units clocked at 1.852GHz, with 16GB of GDDR6 memory.

    To put that into perspective, a Radeon RX 5700 XT based on RDNA 1 wields 40 CUs with a 1,605MHz base clock, 1,755MHz 'game' clock, and 1,905MHz boost clock, and 8GB of GDDR6 memory. On Amazon, an RX 5700 XT is about $400 by itself.

    So: The GPU inside the Xbox Series X has 30 percent more compute units, twice the memory, a faster clock (save for the 5700 XT's ability to boost), and a fatter memory bus. On top of all that, it will benefit from whatever architectural upgrades RDNA 2 introduces. And let's not forget about support for real-time ray tracing.
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    On the graphics side, we knew the Xbox Series X was tapping a custom GPU based on AMD's next-generation RDNA 2 architecture. Microsoft previously said it would serve up 12 TFLOPs of graphics power. It's hard to glean too much from a TFLOPs figure, but now Microsoft has revealed it will feature 52 compute units clocked at 1.852GHz, with 16GB of GDDR6 memory.

    To put that into perspective, a Radeon RX 5700 XT based on RDNA 1 wields 40 CUs with a 1,605MHz base clock, 1,755MHz 'game' clock, and 1,905MHz boost clock, and 8GB of GDDR6 memory. On Amazon, an RX 5700 XT is about $400 by itself.

    So: The GPU inside the Xbox Series X has 30 percent more compute units, twice the memory, a faster clock (save for the 5700 XT's ability to boost), and a fatter memory bus. On top of all that, it will benefit from whatever architectural upgrades RDNA 2 introduces. And let's not forget about support for real-time ray tracing.
    So, what I'm hearing is that the Series X is going to be pretty good.
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    its much more powerful than a ps5 in terms of graphics and will last longer before chit starts looking outdated

    a 16GB card with DDR6 will last forever
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    how many pc gamers have a 16GB DDR6 card? probably 10%


    If that card in the xbox was selling stand alone it would be like $1,500+

    but ps5 has better games... and still look graphically great..

    If I had to choose id get ps5 for sure
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    So, what I'm hearing is that the Series X is going to be pretty good.
    You think so? I’ve got a bridge I’d like to sell you, would you Buy that too?
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    how many pc gamers have a 16GB DDR6 card? probably 10%


    If that card in the xbox was selling stand alone it would be like $1,500+
    Not even close WAY less then 1%. https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/

    However that is SHARED Ram.

    So most gamers have 16 gb ddr4, and <8 GB ddr5 or ddr6.
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    Originally Posted by Kabamaro View Post
    Consoles are just a convenient way to game on TVs
    Literally all you have to do to use your PC as a TV console is buy a $20 wireless keyboard & USB gamepad


    Then you have the infinite functionality of a PC on your TV
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    Not really, only reason would be to play with friends who are on console.


    The older I get, the less friends I have who actually bother upgrading their PCs, most just buy an xbox to have on hand for impulse group gaming.
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    Originally Posted by Kabamaro View Post
    Consoles are just a convenient way to game on TVs
    Yeah pretty much this, and it's a lot more cost efficient as well. For example a new 3080 will cost you a lot more than an entire Xbox Series X, and building a gaming PC that can exceed it's performance will set you back a lot more money. I got a nice gaming PC and it's cool for doing PC stuff but I still easily understand the value of consoles as simple, cheap, and convenient TV entertainment. The greatest benefit of PC performance requires a high speed monitor these days as well, so playing them on a TV kind of defeats the purpose of a high-end PC rig these days.
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    Originally Posted by IMathew View Post
    Not really, only reason would be to play with friends who are on console.


    The older I get, the less friends I have who actually bother upgrading their PCs, most just buy an xbox to have on hand for impulse group gaming.
    Time for you to get some professional friends. My friends all have top tier gaming PCs and almost no one games on console anymore.
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    Originally Posted by ralphlaurenbrah View Post
    Time for you to get some professional friends. My friends all have top tier gaming PCs and almost no one games on console anymore.
    If someone can't manage to save up a whopping $1k-1.5k for a decent PC then they shouldn't be playing video games on their girlfriend's couch, they should be focusing on attaining a career..


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