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    Originally Posted by fishnbrah View Post
    the calorie talk is pure cope. all calories are equal, people over eat and dont exercise. end thread.
    cool story bro. you sound like a personal trainer from the 90's LOL.
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    so much fast food and people will go on like a 30min walk and be like "i just walked 8miles"
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    i dont have an issue with people being fat but if they start complaining that they're trying to lose weight and not willing to do what it takes then fuk off lol
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    Originally Posted by HYDRAE View Post
    and now sugar/soda companies are using dump trucks full of cash to peddle the "energy balance" BS as a way to make their products "part of a healthy diet".

    A calorie is a calorie when burned in a bomb calorimeter - but not in the human body.

    yeah even when i was in school they had soda machines everywhere in the schools because they paid big money to put them there and now the school district was dependent on them. i mean they were paying like 100k or something in the late 90s to put them in and when you think about it, that was not 100k for the right to sell sodas for 50 cents each, that was 100k to normalize a generation to drinking soda on a daily basis.

    also school lunch was usually groce super greasy pizzas. they were right to try to remove chocolate milk (with added sugar) from school lunches and try to fix them. but the damage is done and its too late, i mean now you can even have mcdonalds delivered to your door through an app and not even have to talk to a human being.
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    because sugar is a way to control the masses and unfortunately a lot of americans are dumb as shiit and don't pay any attention to what they cram in their mouths. no discipline.
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    Originally Posted by 2RDEYE View Post
    i dont have an issue with people being fat but if they start complaining that they're trying to lose weight and not willing to do what it takes then fuk off lol

    people have self responsibility on an individual level for their own weight but on a society wide level the corporations and government politicians and agencies they bought out, created this mess.
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    Originally Posted by HYDRAE View Post
    cool story bro. you sound like a personal trainer from the 90's LOL.
    are you going to refute my point? or you just gonnna say dumb ****? stay jelly
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    Originally Posted by Donny2Yucky View Post
    that's pretty judgmental brah. life is hard, many people have a vice they use to cope with life. some people smoke, drink, do drugs, have sex, gamble.

    some people eat food to cope with life's difficulties. it doesn't mean they are worthless pieces of chit. many of them work hard and have successful careers.
    I'd rather do all of those instead of being a fat worthless slob
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    because pizza and coke taste really good together
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    Originally Posted by fishnbrah View Post
    the calorie talk is pure cope. all calories are equal, people over eat and dont exercise. end thread.
    cope
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    Originally Posted by elterrible987 View Post
    also school lunch was usually groce super greasy pizzas. they were right to try to remove chocolate milk (with added sugar) from school lunches and try to fix them. but the damage is done and its too late, i mean now you can even have mcdonalds delivered to your door through an app and not even have to talk to a human being.
    School lunch is basically a microcosm of the issue. Gee, I wonder why students in Europe are so much thinner?
































































































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    its sugar. Sugar and processed sugar is basically in 95% of all processed food. Unless you go on some kind of meat diet you cant get around it. This list doesnt even include the different types of syrups which also contain sugar lol Yes I belive in calories in vs calories out but 2 cookies is 200 calories full of sugar yet 172 grams of chicken breast which will fill you up mostly has only 274.

    A List of the different types of sugar

    Agave nectar
    Arabinose
    Barbados sugar
    Barley malt syrup, barley malt
    Barley sugar
    Beet sugar
    Birch syrup
    Brown sugar
    Buttered syrup
    Cane sugar
    Caramel
    Carob syrup
    Caster sugar
    Coconut sugar
    Confectioner's sugar (also known as "icing sugar")
    Corn sugar
    Corn syrup
    Date sugar
    Dehydrated cane juice
    Demerara sugar
    Dextrin
    Dextrose
    Disaccharide
    Evaporated cane juice
    Free sugar
    Fructose
    Fruit juice, Fruit juice concentrate
    Fucose
    Galactose
    Glucose, glucose solids
    Golden syrup, golden sugar
    Grape sugar
    High fructose corn syrup (HFCS)
    High maltose corn syrup
    Honey
    Inositol
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    Lactose
    Malt extract or malt syrup
    Maltose
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    Maple sugar
    Maple syrup
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    Molasses (from sugar cane)
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    Raw sugar
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    Sorghum syrup
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    Originally Posted by HYDRAE View Post
    School lunch is basically a microcosm of the issue. Gee, I wonder why students in Europe are so much thinner?
































































































    I live in Europe and school lunches normally look way worse. Than again German schools are short and early and most kids eat at home anyways.
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    I live in Europe and school lunches normally look way worse. Than again German schools are short and early and most kids eat at home anyways.
    trust me, most USA lunches don't look that good either.
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    Originally Posted by fishnbrah View Post
    are you going to refute my point? or you just gonnna say dumb ****? stay jelly
    I assume you have access to google, but just to get you started how about:

    1) Metabolization
    2) Thermic Effect
    3) Effect on blood sugar
    4) Satiety
    5) Effects on Appetite
    6) Glycemic index and insulin

    there are hundreds of studies proving this.
    https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/79/5/899S/4690223

    "Calorie content" is measured from the energy released when burned in a bomb calorimeter. So its technically correct to say a calorie is a calorie from a thermodynamic prospective. That, however, completely ignores we are not bomb calorimeters and have complex digestion and hormones regulating appetite and that we don't convert a carrot into white hot flame.

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    Originally Posted by elterrible987 View Post
    trend started in the 80s

    has more to do with the food than activity IMO.




    maybe something else to it too, maybe something hormonal as well like how test levels are dropping and estrogen is going up in men and women.

    Its not just exercise because you cant act like everyone was a track athlete in the 70s or something, plus the workout advice at that time was terrible look at 80s aerobics. In children activity levels probably do make a difference because children used to be active but adults not like everyone was a runner or anything and biggest way to lose weight is to cut food calories.
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    Because people don’t work out regularly and they think a work out is a 1 mile walk/jog, which might be good for regulating blood pressure and keeping joints in good shape, but that barely burns 50 calories

    Also sugar in basically everything. The only people who stay thin these days tend to be those who don’t drink and anything they do drink is sugar free
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    Because prepared food, soft drinks, and alcohol are available everywhere now.
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    srs walking downtown right now and almost everyone is bkoatmaxxed beyond obese levels. I dont even believe the 42% statistic it seems more like 50+ easily. The only people who dont seem obese are people under 25
    Where are you, some cities are worse than others?


    scroll down for the map and check the areas in red......www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/prevalence-maps.html
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    people have self responsibility on an individual level for their own weight but on a society wide level the corporations and government politicians and agencies they bought out, created this mess.
    the education is not provided. which it should be in highschool. the average person doesn't even know what a calorie is. they don't know that excess calories = fat gain. all the government provides are these dumb food group tables and portions. i didn't know anything about macronutrients or calories until I started going to the gym, which was around age 23.

    my understanding of why the government doesn't want to educate the masses is because idk... some sort of mass mental health problem due to people being paranoid of calories. not sure.
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    i think it's because of "luxury drink and snack culture". people today go get high calorie decadent coffees/drinks/snacks at Starbucks and fast food places and gourmet shops all of the f**king in addition to their huge regular breakfast/lunch/dinner. i'm Gen-X (Age 51). we never did this! if we did get such things it was rare because it wasn't in our culture and many of those offerings didn't exist and weren't marketed as they are today. it was a real treat to get something out when i was younger. today, it's commonplace for these fatties. every f**king meeting today revolves around high calorie consumption. look at these fat millennial girls - Starbucks frappuccinos, macchiatos, cookies, ice cream, brunches, snacks, alcohol, etc. today's culture revolves around fast, decadent, high calorie foods because YOU DESERVE IT!!!!!!

    where are my fellow Gen-Xers? Legz - what do you think of this theory? do you agree?
    Gen-X here. Why then the huge weight difference between the US and Europe? I think it's 24lbs for women and 17lbs for men, average height being the same. We have the same junk food joints. No US bashing, I really have no clue why that is.
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    Originally Posted by HYDRAE View Post
    I assume you have access to google, but just to get you started how about:

    1) Metabolization
    2) Thermic Effect
    3) Effect on blood sugar
    4) Satiety
    5) Effects on Appetite
    6) Glycemic index and insulin

    there are hundreds of studies proving this.
    https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/79/5/899S/4690223

    "Calorie content" is measured from the energy released when burned in a bomb calorimeter. So its technically correct to say a calorie is a calorie from a thermodynamic prospective. That, however, completely ignores we are not bomb calorimeters and have complex digestion and hormones regulating appetite and that we don't convert a carrot into white hot flame.

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    Calorie is a calorie end of fooking story

    The reason people get fat from sugar is because its not satiating, no micros, no fiber and it makes you more hungry so by default you eat more calories, the reason people lose lots of weight on low carb is because fat is more satiating than carbs so you eat less by default also a lot of the weight loss is water weight, it’s been proven over and over and OVER again

    I’ve gotten to 9%bf eating 300g carbs, so is a lot of people, fukk this carbs and sugar are bad bullchit, get your micros and fiber in and you’re good
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    Originally Posted by 2RDEYE View Post
    the education is not provided. which it should be in highschool. the average person doesn't even know what a calorie is. they don't know that excess calories = fat gain. all the government provides are these dumb food group tables and portions. i didn't know anything about macronutrients or calories until I started going to the gym, which was around age 23.

    my understanding of why the government doesn't want to educate the masses is because idk... some sort of mass mental health problem due to people being paranoid of calories. not sure.
    it never was. and people remained slim. and without excessive exercise like is promoted today. people got fat when the new types of processed food became available, which all include a ton of sugar. and people stopped eating real food.

    it has nothing to do with calories. calories were never counted before and society never had issues. the term calories are equal is used to push selling these processed junk foods. to make them seem like they are ok to eat. that all calories are equal and the same. which they are not. refined sugar in these fake foods in reality is a slow poison. which also leads to disease and obesity but herp derp. it's all about calories - not srs.

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    I see this happen with many people my age +, mostly females

    In highschool and college they played sports and were very active. Group trainings daily, lots of cardio, etc. Burning thousands of calories/day so they ate whatever they wanted. Fast food, etc. But didn't get fat becasue of how active they were.

    Then suddenly all that activity stops but eating habits remain the same and the pounds start packing on. Especially with office workers.

    The people that took care of themselves when younger seem to still take care of themselves as they get older and it shows.

    It's too normalized that people just get fat with age. "it's normal hehe"
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    Originally Posted by HYDRAE View Post
    And that fat was the enemy. BRB, removing fat then adding in a bunch of sugar to make it edible. Ancel Keys and his seven country study are trash and responsible for 4 decades of misinformation.
    Yes, the low fat craze plus all the artificial sweetener crap. If I'm going to have a snack it gonna be full fat/full sugar. The difference is I only do it about once a week, not every day.

    Originally Posted by GordonXXX View Post
    i think it's because of "luxury drink and snack culture". people today go get high calorie decadent coffees/drinks/snacks at Starbucks and fast food places and gourmet shops all of the f**king in addition to their huge regular breakfast/lunch/dinner. i'm Gen-X (Age 51). we never did this! if we did get such things it was rare because it wasn't in our culture and many of those offerings didn't exist and weren't marketed as they are today. it was a real treat to get something out when i was younger. today, it's commonplace for these fatties. every f**king meeting today revolves around high calorie consumption. look at these fat millennial girls - Starbucks frappuccinos, macchiatos, cookies, ice cream, brunches, snacks, alcohol, etc. today's culture revolves around fast, decadent, high calorie foods because YOU DESERVE IT!!!!!!

    where are my fellow Gen-Xers? Legz - what do you think of this theory? do you agree?
    Yep, I think you hit the nail on the head. Fast food for us when I was young was very rare, as was drinking soda. Having McDonalds or Burger King was a treat, not an every day or even weekly thing. Soda was maybe once a week. Even now I'm not into drinking my calories, whether that's fancy coffees, soda or alcohol. I drink water all day every day. I'd much rather eat my cals.
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    The amount of misinformation about calories and sugar ITT was disturbing


    Sugar does not make you fat nor does it cause diabetes; common misconception




    People are overweight because they eat too many calories, most of you overestimate your TDEE significantly, especially women who require less calories pound for pound.
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