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    Originally Posted by LukeS1 View Post
    I dont know if there was too much of a difference for me being "big" and ripped to being 170 lbs 11% tennis player body (srs). For every girl that's into 18 inch arms there's 2 or 3 that prefer 15 to 16 inch ones. Obviously supply and demand works in your favour, but a lot of the girls into size are crazy and have daddy issues

    Honestly face and height are more important
    To sloots: being 11% makes a BIG difference to >15%. Size doesn't make much of a difference..

    When you gaining mass and bulking up, bit higher%, sloots think you're letting yourself go lul






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    Originally Posted by nm1891 View Post
    Sure, being jacked gets you tons of meaningless attention. I get comments all the time out in public and have plenty of trashy women take a pass, but after awhile what does that gain you except feeding your ego? No one in a business environment cares, if anything it can be a detraction if you seem like a meat head.
    that's all I want from it. Not the getting hit on part, but the fact that you stand out


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    Originally Posted by drvillain View Post
    that's all I want from it. Not the getting hit on part, but the fact that you stand out


    das it mane
    ngl that was probably my main motivation at age 17 when I got into it. I wanted to stand out as better than everyone in one single way that everyone could see, that would make people jealous and look up to me.


    To some extent it does do that, but as someone pointed out earlier this effect is huge in high school, big in college and then minimal thereafter...
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    Originally Posted by Evolutionary1 View Post
    just go otter mode.
    Ottermode looks great, and as a balance between effort/reward is the optimal for sure. Lift 1-2x per week, eat right/do a bit of cardio/sports and you have a perfect body for sloots, looking good in a suit and health

    issue is, if like me you got sucked into the bodybuilding mindset it just isnt appealing or rewarding, its more of an option for people who want to do the minimum to stay attractive
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    Wrong on the respect part. America is full of bloatlord fatties, so you will always be perceived as younger, treated less seriously, and less intimidating in altercations. Basically, it's about being treated seriously, especially important if you have a babyface, small frame, no facial hair, or are a manlet.
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    As you get older and start to establish yourself in the corporate world you quickly realize that no one gives a chit about your zyzz physique. All that matters is that you excel at work and aren't a fat lazy slob of a human being. I've felt healthier and happier once i scaled back lifting to twice a week and focused on cardio. Better skin complexion, better heart health, better moods.
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    Originally Posted by BulkingIsHard View Post
    Wrong on the respect part. America is full of bloatlord fatties, so you will always be perceived as younger, treated less seriously, and less intimidating in altercations. Basically, it's about being treated seriously, especially important if you have a babyface, small frame, no facial hair, or are a manlet.
    Manlet wanting muscles to be taken seriously....

    End well this will not
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    Originally Posted by nm1891 View Post
    Sure, being jacked gets you tons of meaningless attention. I get comments all the time out in public and have plenty of trashy women take a pass, but after awhile what does that gain you except feeding your ego? No one in a business environment cares, if anything it can be a detraction if you seem like a meat head.
    If a hiring manager had two potential candidates, both same race same education and qualifications similar personalities, but one had a fantastic physique, which do you think he’d hire? Easy answer. It’s the closest thing to being an attractive woman you can get. Halo effect>
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    Lifting > physique result imo

    If you don't enjoy that part then yeah total waste of time
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    Originally Posted by LukeS1 View Post
    Money will always help you, in every part of your life.

    No doubt a shredded physique helps out with women in certain situations, but its very much a double edged sword. If you want a solid GF 7-8/10 type, you may be less likely to connect with them due to their perceptions of you being shallow, vein, uninteresting, self absorbed, or out of their league (srs)
    Honestly, you'd be surprised how many hot chicks think very little of themselves and are looking for constant validation. They have HUGE ego's and know they're hot, but will still hold guys that are below their league to a higher standard. Insecurities are a bitch, even when you're a HBB
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    Originally Posted by Sevenlionz View Post
    If a hiring manager had two potential candidates, both same race same education and qualifications similar personalities, but one had a fantastic physique, which do you think he’d hire? Easy answer. It’s the closest thing to being an attractive woman you can get. Halo effect>
    Are you wearing tank tops to your interviews or what lol. Kinda hard to tell how jacked you are in a suit. Plus, being a meat head may actually be a negative depending on who’s interviewing you and what industry it’s in. You’d only have a point if your talking about a fat ass candidate vs one in decent shape, but you dont have to be jacked to have that advantage, you just have to look decent in a suit and not be a fat phuck.
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    Originally Posted by TXBuddy View Post
    Pretty much agree OP. I get 95% hate and I'm not even huge. I can't even wear tanks when it's hot or I get neg comments or looks because people think I'm full of myself. I really just sweat a lot. .

    The only supporters also feel it necessary to start talking about lifting or crossfit or some chit. So annoying.


    It's because you're the equivalent of a 40 year old woman who thinks shes still hot
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    The problem is this is a bodybuilding forum. We all think women care so much about aesthetics, shoulder to hip ratio or v-taper, bf%, vascularity, big arms, etc.

    Most don't give a fuk. At all. Actually nowadays the bigger you are without getting obese, the better you'll do. At least in the midwest.

    Really just train hard and eat decent, and most women are going to comment positively about your physique. No need to be a complete aesthetic kunt unless all you want is to slay easy bitches at the club.
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    You're too young to fully realize the advantages to being in great shape. In my opinion when you're younger its not as relevant. Because HS/college years there are a ton of people your age that are active/athletic. At 26 there are still lots of guys/girls in your age bracket that are in good shape/have a good physique. Mostly because they don't all have families/kids and haven't started rotting yet.


    Check back in 10-20 years. If you've maintained that physique you're literally on godmode. Top 1% for age bracket. There is a big difference between just being better then the average guy your age. And being in the top 1% of physical attractiveness for your age.
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    Why play video games, watch movies, shows, play sports, if “it’s not going to give you anything in return,” other than entertainment?
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    Do it for the health benefits srs. It also makes you a stronger tradie and you’re less sore from work if you lift because your body gets so used to both after awhile.

    The only way it helps with self defense is if the other person doesn’t know how to fight either. Anyone semi trained can take down someone bigger them. Anyone who trains seriously can take down someone MUCH bigger than them.

    Or some maniac high on adrenaline.

    I Cringe at people who think just because they lift they’re better than non lifters and usually they’re losers with no real hobbies or consider lifting their main hobby... even though it’s not a hobby....... Just so obssesed when no one really gives a ****. So typical miscer ?

    Oh and lol @ people who think you can naturally add more than 20-30 lbs of lbm from lifting. Yeah. Okay.

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    Lmao at this gigacope "you don’t want to looked jacked in the business world"

    It’s not hard for you all to hide it with bigger shirts if you really want to, especially literally everyone in this thread. Not a bad thing

    If you want to show it wear clothes that do or be shirtless, and if you want to hide it wear bigger clothes. No one here has a level of leanness and muscle mass considered too big (plenty of aesthetic as is brahs for sure though)
    What people lack in genetics they can make up for in dedication

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    I disagree op.

    Nothing like looking in the mirror every once in awhile and being blown away at your own physique.

    Once I went over a month without looking in a mirror shirtless and when I did I mogged myself or something, it felt great.
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    Also OP has some truth but it makes a pretty massive difference for ethnic dudes who grew up as skinny kids and didn’t fit in as well, especially if they’re decent looking and somewhat tall already
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    I think the self confidence you gain by getting in shape alone is worth it.
    But of course it's not going to hand you a successful life on a silver platter, you still gotta work for it.
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    Originally Posted by trapspot View Post
    Lmao at this gigacope "you don’t want to looked jacked in the business world"

    It’s not hard for you all to hide it with bigger shirts if you really want to, especially literally everyone in this thread. Not a bad thing

    If you want to show it wear clothes that do or be shirtless, and if you want to hide it wear bigger clothes. No one here has a level of leanness and muscle mass considered too big (plenty of aesthetic as is brahs for sure though)
    this; if you're not on the OJ it's easy enough to look like you kinda work-out by just going a size up.

    I still think face,height>>>phyhsique.
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    Originally Posted by sandman2019 View Post
    It's true women dn't give fark if you lift weights!

    this guy gets 0 matches on tinder!



    negged for low tier intelligence.

    Srs?? There's no way that dude gets 0 matches. At the very least I'm sure he gets tons of matches from whales and girls 5/10 or below.
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    Originally Posted by Imthebestmayne View Post
    Just don't be these guys
    lmao wtf? this is what happen when you misc too much.
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    Originally Posted by LukeS1 View Post
    I'm not saying its not worth it, but you have to do it for you and only for you.

    Going from a 17 year old skinny kid, to close to my ideal physique (6'1, 205 and like 10% bodyfat) it was cool, but the end result isn't as valuable or satisfying as I had thought it would be.

    I still love the sport, process and challenge so will probably never stop, but I came to realise that's all there is to it really. The perceived external benefits such as respect, status, women, self esteem are negligible and mostly double edged swords.
    Thats because you have chitty genetics so you can never have a truly aesthetic physique. Doesn't mean you should pee in other people's cheerios.

    Just a little tip but when you discover these wonderful insights about yourself don't try to project them on to everybody else.
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    Originally Posted by VinnyPazRules View Post
    Thats because you have chitty genetics so you can never have a truly aesthetic physique. Doesn't mean you should pee in other people's cheerios.

    Just a little tip but when you discover these wonderful insights about yourself don't try to project them on to everybody else.
    lmao what part of my genetics are chitty? Srs

    I certainly wouldn't want to look like your avi thats for sure
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