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    Qbs I think are better than Lamar

    I've been a certified hater from the beginning.

    When pressured by a real team he begins to fall apart and starts throwing ducks(see his playoff performances for reference).

    He is fantastically athletic, but an average passer at best and often times very below average at that. He's blessed to be behind a stacked team(this what happens when you are drafted late in first round).

    No particular order


    1.wilson
    2.mahomes
    3.rodgers
    4.brees
    5.big Ben
    6.cam on the pats under bill belichik
    7.watson


    Tie:dak,lamar,minshew,Jimmy g, Josh Allen. All pretty much the same.

    Expect him to not win another playoff game this year. His ceiling is a skinnier dak Prescott. Can't wait for ravens to overpay this guy in a few years.
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    LOL'ed at big ben and brees. you must've not watched them play week 1
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    In terms of pocket passing he’s not that good, but his running ability more than makes up for it. The pressure he puts on a defense with his legs is crazy
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    Kind of baffles me people think brees is even top 10 anymore tbh. They have to put Taysom in to throw deep balls
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    Let the league in passing TDs, with a QBR higher than Brady in all but his 2007 season

    All while having the worst set of receivers in the league once Hollywood went down

    The only negative anyone can find is that he didn't win a superbowl in his first year as a starter



    No doubt he's a top 4 QB, and he's only getting better. Haters gonna hate
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    Originally Posted by LukeS1 View Post
    Let the league in passing TDs, with a QBR higher than Brady in all but his 2007 season

    All while having the worst set of receivers in the league once Hollywood went down

    The only negative anyone can find is that he didn't win a superbowl in his first year as a starter



    No doubt he's a top 4 QB, and he's only getting better. Haters gonna hate
    His longevity is going to be **** though lol
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    Originally Posted by AMeyer9 View Post
    His longevity is going to be **** though lol
    Potentially but hes still a top 4 QB until something changes.

    And he's still only 23, he has plenty of prime left, as long as no injuries
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    Originally Posted by AMeyer9 View Post
    Kind of baffles me people think brees is even top 10 anymore tbh. They have to put Taysom in to throw deep balls
    He's definitely not playing like it anymore. Still top 5 GOAT, though.
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    Originally Posted by LukeS1 View Post
    Let the league in passing TDs, with a QBR higher than Brady in all but his 2007 season

    All while having the worst set of receivers in the league once Hollywood went down

    The only negative anyone can find is that he didn't win a superbowl in his first year as a starter



    No doubt he's a top 4 QB, and he's only getting better. Haters gonna hate
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    Wilson and Mahomes are the only QBs I would put above him, currently. Though, if it's a 2 minute drill in the 4th quarter of the Super Bowl down by a score, I'm still rolling with Brady if my life depended on it.
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    Originally Posted by AgRyan View Post
    Wilson and Mahomes are the only QBs I would put above him, currently. Though, if it's a 2 minute drill in the 4th quarter of the Super Bowl down by a score, I'm still rolling with Brady if my life depended on it.
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    BTW These two comments are dumb af

    Originally Posted by climberbrah View Post
    He's blessed to be behind a stacked team(this what happens when you are drafted late in first round).
    He's got 2 top tackles (plus Yanda last year but no longer), and a top 5 TE. The rest is average or worse. There is great depth at RB but Ingram is at best an average RB1, the receivers are poor and lack depth (literally Boykin and Sneed are 2 and 3) easily a bottom 5 receiver team.

    All these QBs have more stacked offences;

    Dak
    TB12
    Brees
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    Mayfield

    Lamar has overall an average supporting cast on offence, he makes them great


    Originally Posted by climberbrah View Post
    Expect him to not win another playoff game this year. His ceiling is a skinnier dak Prescott. Can't wait for ravens to overpay this guy in a few years.
    This is just retarded, he was unanimous MVP already how can his ceiling be completely mediocre?
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    Originally Posted by LukeS1 View Post
    BTW These two comments are dumb af



    He's got 2 top tackles (plus Yanda last year but no longer), and a top 5 TE. The rest is average or worse. There is great depth at RB but Ingram is at best an average RB1, the receivers are poor and lack depth (literally Boykin and Sneed are 2 and 3) easily a bottom 5 receiver team.

    All these QBs have more stacked offences;

    Dak
    TB12
    Brees
    Rodgers
    Mahomes
    Mayfield

    Lamar has overall an average supporting cast on offence, he makes them great




    This is just retarded, he was unanimous MVP already how can his ceiling be completely mediocre?
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    ^^more low IQ babble. Stick to hockey kid.
    LMAO why enter the sports misc if you never even make one worthwhile point? If youre going to troll at least be funny
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    Originally Posted by LukeS1 View Post
    All these QBs have more stacked offences;

    Dak
    TB12
    Brees
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    Mahomes
    Mayfield
    Rodgers has a worse offense than Lamar Jackson.

    I wanna see Lamar Jackson have a good game when it counts in the playoffs before I take him over established greats such as Rodgers and Brees. Obviously Wilson and Mahomes > Lamar Jackson.
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    Originally Posted by Brosnbroccoli View Post
    Rodgers has a worse offense than Lamar Jackson.
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    Did you see how much time he had to throw on those deep bombs on Sunday? and he has a genuine top tier WR1 and RB1. All that Lamar has over him is MAndrews

    Understand the point on the playoff wins, but thats the ONLY thing people have left to criticise him on
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    Originally Posted by LukeS1 View Post
    Did you see how much time he had to throw on those deep bombs on Sunday? and he has a genuine top tier WR1 and RB1. All that Lamar has over him is MAndrews

    Understand the point on the playoff wins, but thats the ONLY thing people have left to criticise him on
    Top tier RB1??
    Agree to disagree.

    Davante Adams is really good, no doubt, and clearly a top tier WR1. However, that is as far as Rodgers advantage goes in skill positions, in my opinion. I’d rather have Ravens RBs than Packers.
    Lamar Jackson has a far, far better coach as well.
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    Originally Posted by Brosnbroccoli View Post
    Top tier RB1??
    Agree to disagree.

    Davante Adams is really good, no doubt, and clearly a top tier WR1. However, that is as far as Rodgers advantage goes in skill positions, in my opinion. I’d rather have Ravens RBs than Packers.
    Lamar Jackson has a far, far better coach as well.
    Aaron Jones ranked 5th among RBs last year in PFF, guys a stud

    Mark Ingram is a below average RB1, there is great depth with Gus the Bus and maybe Dobbins breaks out, but for now he is an unknown
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    Originally Posted by LukeS1 View Post
    BTW These two comments are dumb af



    He's got 2 top tackles (plus Yanda last year but no longer), and a top 5 TE. The rest is average or worse. There is great depth at RB but Ingram is at best an average RB1, the receivers are poor and lack depth (literally Boykin and Sneed are 2 and 3) easily a bottom 5 receiver team.

    All these QBs have more stacked offences;

    Dak
    TB12
    Brees
    Rodgers
    Mahomes
    Mayfield

    Lamar has overall an average supporting cast on offence, he makes them great




    This is just retarded, he was unanimous MVP already how can his ceiling be completely mediocre?
    He hasn't won a playoff game yet. Mvp means nothing.
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    LMAO why enter the sports misc if you never even make one worthwhile point? If youre going to troll at least be funny
    Not trolling. Lamar Jackson has still not shown any ability to come back from any deficit whatsoever.
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    Originally Posted by climberbrah View Post
    He hasn't won a playoff game yet. Mvp means nothing.
    This is literally the only critical people have for him, and hes only played in 2. This season is only his 2nd as a starter and hes 23 years old.

    Peyton lost his first 3 playoff games, why judge Lamar off 2 when everything else he has done has been elite?
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    He's playing lights out and Harbaugh is a great coach who puts pieces around his guy and who supports him. I believe Lamar will win a ring (barring injury) sooner than later. Who really cares who's top 10 or w/e, you win or you don't. Not a QB in the league gives a **** about being top 10, they want a ring.
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    Originally Posted by LukeS1 View Post
    This is literally the only critical people have for him, and hes only played in 2. This season is only his 2nd as a starter and hes 23 years old.

    Peyton lost his first 3 playoff games, why judge Lamar off 2 when everything else he has done has been elite?
    It’s not just the playoff games, casual. He has yet to come back from a double digit deficit in any game. Look at last year’s chiefs and browns games in the regular season as well. Until he’s able to prove he can do this he will never be in the Wilson/Mahomes tier.
    All it takes is Mookie Betts, Steph Curry, and Joe Burrow all sitting in the same car in order for one drunk driver to make the world a significantly better place.
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    Originally Posted by LukeS1 View Post
    Aaron Jones ranked 5th among RBs last year in PFF, guys a stud

    Mark Ingram is a below average RB1, there is great depth with Gus the Bus and maybe Dobbins breaks out, but for now he is an unknown
    Aaron Jones is great but he's not top 5.. I'm a hardcore Packers fan also, hes great for what was needed after Davante went down. Rodgers TDs took a hit because we got close to the goal line and handed it off to AJ (led the league in TDs). That team goes as MLF and Aaron go.

    AJ Dillon is gonna be a workhorse for this team eventually, but he's still young.. MVS got better but he's still dropping balls, Lazard is undrafted, Tyler Ervin is undrafted, EQSB is a 7th round pick, Robert Tonyan (TE1) is undrafted

    It's Adams..... Jones..... bunch of trash held together by Rodgers and MLF play calling and team development
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    Originally Posted by Jaydawg08 View Post
    Aaron Jones is great but he's not top 5.. I'm a hardcore Packers fan also, hes great for what was needed after Davante went down. Rodgers TDs took a hit because we got close to the goal line and handed it off to AJ (led the league in TDs). That team goes as MLF and Aaron go.

    AJ Dillon is gonna be a workhorse for this team eventually, but he's still young.. MVS got better but he's still dropping balls, Lazard is undrafted, Tyler Ervin is undrafted, EQSB is a 7th round pick, Robert Tonyan (TE1) is undrafted

    It's Adams..... Jones..... bunch of trash held together by Rodgers and MLF play calling and team development
    EQ was a 6th, and fell in the draft because he was deemed to have "character issues"
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    Originally Posted by AMeyer9 View Post
    EQ was a 6th, and fell in the draft because he was deemed to have "character issues"
    I've heard lots of reasons why he dropped, but even then he was a healthy scratch for Sunday vs the Vikings

    This offense is lacking in talent, and with the OL banged up, it's gonna be dependent on MLF and Rodgers to be creative.. and the young WRs to take a big step
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    Originally Posted by YoungMetro24 View Post
    It’s not just the playoff games, casual. He has yet to come back from a double digit deficit in any game. Look at last year’s chiefs and browns games in the regular season as well. Until he’s able to prove he can do this he will never be in the Wilson/Mahomes tier.
    He's 20-3 in the regular season, with two of those losses coming against the best team in the NFL and superbowl champs

    Not his fault he's too dominant to be behind double digits
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    Originally Posted by Jaydawg08 View Post
    Aaron Jones is great but he's not top 5.. I'm a hardcore Packers fan also, hes great for what was needed after Davante went down. Rodgers TDs took a hit because we got close to the goal line and handed it off to AJ (led the league in TDs). That team goes as MLF and Aaron go.

    AJ Dillon is gonna be a workhorse for this team eventually, but he's still young.. MVS got better but he's still dropping balls, Lazard is undrafted, Tyler Ervin is undrafted, EQSB is a 7th round pick, Robert Tonyan (TE1) is undrafted

    It's Adams..... Jones..... bunch of trash held together by Rodgers and MLF play calling and team development
    your oline looks pretty damn good too. One of the best LT in the league
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    Originally Posted by Jaydawg08 View Post
    I've heard lots of reasons why he dropped, but even then he was a healthy scratch for Sunday vs the Vikings

    This offense is lacking in talent, and with the OL banged up, it's gonna be dependent on MLF and Rodgers to be creative.. and the young WRs to take a big step
    So obnoxious when people say the offense is lacking talent.

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