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Yes, multiply lifter. Yes lifetime natty.
I've been around some of the biggest benchers of all time. I have trained with (2) 900+ benchers (one of them benched 600 raw several times), (2) 800+ benchers and multiple others who have benched 700, 600, 500+ I have benched 500+ in competition multiple times at 220 and my best is 605. I am very good at spotting and correcting technique flaws in the bench.
The biggest flaw I see in even some of the best bench pressers, is a loose lower body. Legs moving everywhere, hips and ass flying up off the bench, no stability from the waist down.
Why does this happen?
I think the primary reason, and why bench is different from squat and dead, is you have to create your own tension. There is no weight on your lower body helping you, so you need to create as much tension as possible from your waist down through your hips and into your feet.
How do we fix it?
First thing to realize is your bench form is probably not great. Look at videos of your bench. Do your legs move? Do your hips pop up off the bench when you press? Too loose. How to fix it depends on the form you choose:
Feet Flat:
This is how I bench and my preferred method to teach new lifters. Not great for lightweights that need more arch. You will also need some good flexibility in your back. One of my training partners is world ranked (very high up). I can't convince him to change because he is afraid it will affect his deadlift, so we do something different. Anyway, with any bench, set up on your traps and then push your hips into an arch as tight as you can, then move your feet out into position. It's best if your heels are in line with your knees or just slightly forward, then push your hips up and turn your heels out, drive heels into the ground. It also helps to push your knees out to the sides as hard as possible. This will create enough tension to keep your body tight and in a good position to bench. Your hips should always be up as high as possible, from the time you take the bar until it is back in the rack. Again, if your hips are up and down during the bench press, you're not tight enough.
Feet slightly back:
This works better for less flexible lifters. Setup is the same, but once your hips are locked in, you will bring your feet back to the position you want. Hip and glute position is a bit different, you want to tilt your pelvis down toward the bench (balls to the bench) to keep from rising off the bench. Then drive your heels down when you take the bar. This takes some work and is the most likely to cause your butt to rise off the bench.
Big Arch, feet back:
This is the easiest to maintain tightness, but is usually used by women and lighter lifters. If you're not a powerlifter, no need to do this. You will also need a lot of flexibility.
Hopefully this will help someone get a bench PR. But anyone who wants to post bench vids here, I'm glad to help out.
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09-11-2020, 11:14 AM #1
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This is the #1 biggest bench press issue. srs thrd, come in if you want to bench more
Last edited by Drew23; 09-11-2020 at 12:58 PM.
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What you would reccomand for someone who has one side of the chest more forward than the other (me). When i bench i feel one shoulder is higher than the other , causing pain. of course i know dumbells are better but i dont have access to then. unfortunately for this reason my bench is just slightly heavier than my OHP.
I tried benching with wider grips and closer grips. but i dont know what to do
thanks
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That's apparent from your avi
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Everyone should have some arch when they bench. Grip width depends on your arm length and what you're trying to hit specifically. For a non-powerlifter, I would recommend you start with pinkies on the rings and move out one finger at a time to see what feels best for you.
Can you pinpoint what it is? Is it your lat, trap, spinal erector? One side or both? Without knowing any more, I would recommend more rowing, face pulls, and pullovers to build up your upper back. Would also be curious to see a vid from above looking down to see if there is an imbalance.
Such is life in misc. I'm not new.
Use fake weights?
It sounds like a shoulder impingement or bicep issue. I would get it looked at by a physical therapist to determine what is going on. This would be something I would physically have to work with to figure it out. I do have a training partner with a similar issue, but he had a bicep tear and we are working on correcting the physiological problem.I'm not DrewDarden
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Try not retracting your scapulae as much on the bench. Instead, try to set up more on top of your traps so your shoulders are pulled down and back, but not squeezed together. Then when you take the bar, pull horizontally toward your feet to engage your lats more. It sounds like what JUGGERNAUT1333 said above, not enough lat engagement.
I'm not DrewDarden
Best Meet lifts: S:805 B:705 D:560 Total:2070 (220, equipped, drug free)
Best Raw (gym lifts): S:540 B:380 D:515
Want to bench more? Click here: https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=178958341
~ Molon Labe ~
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