Boxing + Hypertrophy?

[SOLIDOPS]

Hi guys, I'd like to take up boxing after gyms reopen for self defense and also as a hobby. However I do not want to give up hypertrophy training/bodybuilding-style workouts.

Is it possible to do both?

[CanardMedic]

Naw, getting good at boxing requires a lot of cardio.
I'm not saying it's impossible, maybe if you're on the juice.
If you're really trying to be good at boxing, you'll spend 90% of your time boxing and 10% lifting. If that doesn't like something you want to do, then you might learn a few combination but you're not going to last long in the ring/ mat.

[stillbored]

Yes you can do both. You looking for a hobby or looking to actually compete?

[cameintodissu]

Boxing is a ton of cardio. In fact it’s mostly cardio. Like the first poster said, trying to improve both cardio and gains is impossible unless you are new or are juicing. You can attempt to do both but you will be good at neither

[SOLIDOPS]

Naw, getting good at boxing requires a lot of cardio.
I'm not saying it's impossible, maybe if you're on the juice.
If you're really trying to be good at boxing, you'll spend 90% of your time boxing and 10% lifting. If that doesn't like something you want to do, then you might learn a few combination but you're not going to last long in the ring/ mat.

Boxing is a ton of cardio. In fact it’s mostly cardio. Like the first poster said, trying to improve both cardio and gains is impossible unless you are new or are juicing. You can attempt to do both but you will be good at neither

Disappointed though I guessed as much.

So I guess there is literally no martial art out there that synergizes with bodybuilding/hypertrophy training then, as all martial arts require a ton of cardio.

Tyson was fairly big for a boxer, guess he was a special case.

[SOLIDOPS]

Yes you can do both. You looking for a hobby or looking to actually compete?

Not doubting you but how? And hobby though I do want to spar to get better.

[MJAffliction]

You're going to have to spar to get better. It's the only way to garner better reactions and more experience. Weightlifting is almost counter productive when it comes to boxing, kickboxing and muay thai.

[powerliftin]

It is ultimately like asking if you can do long distance running + hypertrophy. Of course you can but if you are serious about long distance running it doesn't make much sense.

There is no reason to try to jump up a weight class so you are boxing with people with longer reach before you even start.

Tommy Hearns I always think of as the archetype for not doing this. 6'1" 78 inch reach and won the title at Welterweight. One of the all time great punchers too.

[CanardMedic]

Disappointed though I guessed as much.

So I guess there is literally no martial art out there that synergizes with bodybuilding/hypertrophy training then, as all martial arts require a ton of cardio.

Tyson was fairly big for a boxer, guess he was a special case.

You might be better off grappling then, the submission game requires some " squeeze" and muscle contraction.
Still, it's going to be the same issue. If you want to get good at grappling or striking..you'll spend 90% of your time doing that and not focusing on getting big.

[sooby]

I think strength training can help, but not hypertrophy

it'll probably slow you down not to mention boxing is a lot of cardio and conditioning

depends what your goals are and what you want

[SOLIDOPS]

Thanks everyone. RIP to my goal of doing boxing.

[savageoldman]

they dont mix well

heavy singles on deads lifts and sqauts will help but not bb training style

[savageoldman]

Thanks everyone. RIP to my goal of doing boxing.

take up bjj instead you can get away with bb training because when you grapple your opponents body is in a weird spot where you might need to use your upper body strength only to finish a submission, where as boxing you need to move your whole body together in a quick "spark" to punch.

[Lefticle]

Been boxing again during this whole covid thing. I'm down 25 lbs. It's very difficult to keep weight on while doing that much cardio. Also, lifting heavy slows you down significantly.


The reason Tyson looked so jacked is because he has an endomorph body type if he isn't doing extreme cardio:

[kusok]

Lifting is good for combat sports, just make sure to do it explosively, and only 2-3x per week to allow recovery since you have added training sessions now.

[KingSWRV]

Well lifting comes first and foremost, you can’t be good if you are weak.

AFTER you spent a couple years of heavy effective powerlifting and becoming a fully developed human then you can also do other things like practice for a sport.

When you go into the Boxing gym you should already have years of lifting built up.

Then you can parlay that power into technique. Then when you are finally about to compete in the ring you can train cardio for 6-8 weeks to get your cardiovascular system in shape while also maintaining the gains you had as best as you can with lots of protein, amino acids and short but heavy lifts 3x a week.

Don’t worry about all the other stuff, first start a basic powerlifting regiment. Get your body right and strong first.

You can’t do both at the same time but you can do them one first, then the other.

[cameintodissu]

Well lifting comes first and foremost, you can’t be good if you are weak.

AFTER you spent a couple years of heavy effective powerlifting and becoming a fully developed human then you can also do other things like practice for a sport.

When you go into the Boxing gym you should already have years of lifting built up.

Then you can parlay that power into technique. Then when you are finally about to compete in the ring you can train cardio for 6-8 weeks to get your cardiovascular system in shape while also maintaining the gains you had as best as you can with lots of protein, amino acids and short but heavy lifts 3x a week.

Don’t worry about all the other stuff, first start a basic powerlifting regiment. Get your body right and strong first.

You can’t do both at the same time but you can do them one first, then the other.

Man you literally don’t know sht about boxing