Stage 2 or normal?
Throwing a roush exhaust in there as well
Its a 2012 f150 3.5l v6
Will the stage 2 put in more air that why its more money
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Thread: Cold air intake for truck
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09-04-2020, 01:47 PM #1
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09-04-2020, 01:58 PM #2
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09-04-2020, 02:28 PM #3
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09-04-2020, 02:42 PM #4
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09-04-2020, 02:49 PM #5
Typically they blow boosted engines by pushing too much boost and improper tuning. If you have a relatively stock engine/turbos you should be okay with a Cobb tune or something else that's mild... Then again, I'm talking about a pick up truck engine that I have no knowledge about. Pick up trucks are typically dealing with a higher load on the motor.. I'd recommend staying in a lower gear if you're going to be romping on it... If you're in a taller (higher) gear and you start lugging the engine at low RPMs by giving it throttle just so you can hear the turbo whoosh and feel the torque... You'll be stressing the internals.
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09-04-2020, 02:51 PM #6
This is typically true on naturally aspirated engines. In a turbo car you can achieve higher torque by allowing the turbos to breathe in air more freely... Still, on many modern day platforms in high end vehicles changing out the filter won't net you anything. I'm sure his truck will benefit from an intake since he's boosted.
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09-04-2020, 03:05 PM #7
Thanks all
I am new to subthread
From r&p
https://www.americantrucks.com/roush...e-1214eco.html
https://www.americantrucks.com/afe-m...k-1214eco.html
Which 1?
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09-06-2020, 11:54 AM #8
Exhaust and “CAI” are a waste of money unless you plan on doing a lot more to the truck. Best forced induction intakes would be over the radiator and a direct tube right into the intake without all the curved tubing. Not sure if that’s a thing for your truck, but wouldn’t waste my time otherwise
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09-08-2020, 03:44 AM #9
Put a CAI on my 2009 F150, 5.4 V8.........and just got louder intake noise. No MPG change, no more power........actually feel like it got a bit of a dead spot around 2k rpm under normal acceleration. When people say they got better throttle response or they can feel it in their "butt dyno" it's probably because they accelerate harder just to hear the intake noise.....and yea it sounds cool but.....Debating taking it off and going back to stock. I'm sure with a tune it would make a minor difference but in all honesty just throwing it on there probably threw off my A/F ratio a tiny bit.
You might have a different outcome, being a turbo'd motor, but again will most likely see no benefit without a tune.
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09-08-2020, 05:12 AM #10
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For fks sake there is some horrible fkn advice being given here...
PSA.. Dont come on a BB forum for car advice
Opie... for what its worth I own a 2012 3.5l Eco that put down 400rwhp/500tq to the tires *in good air*.. no way its making that in this Houston heat right now.
Lets address some $hit so you have the correct information..
-Putting a CAI on it
A CAI is only going to make cool noises and likely wont pick up any additional HP or TQ that's noticeable on your a$$ dyno. That said , I put a AFE stage II on mine a long time ago because I found it used locally for next to nothing... Like I said... sounds cool... didn't really pick up any power I could feel
-Exhaust
While a cat back exhaust will pick you up a little power by simply removing some restrictions... it sounds like hot garbage on a Ecoboost IMO. And the only way you will see any real power is by going full send by doing off road down pipes (catless). Personally I just removed the resonator , turned down the exhaust right past the factory muffler , & installed an electric cutout right past the factory down pipes. This way I dont have to listen to that $hit all the time yet have the ability to really open it up when I need it to.
-Tune
For the love of Allah do NOT go with some out of the box tune from some BS company. Do your research and find you a reputable company that has vetted tunes ready to go and will read the data logs to ensure that it works safely for your application. Below I will shoot you a few recommendations based off of my experience.. take it for what its worth. All of these companies will require you to purchase an aftermarket tuning device (SCT or Ngauge) and most of the time they have the tunes available to DL in your inbox before you even get the device. Its extremely user friendly to move them from email to the device if you have even basic computer skills.. not to mention there are a ton of videos documenting the process step by step.
1) Lund Racing (honestly would be my top choice these days even though I am not currently tuned by them)
2) AED performance
3) Unleashed Performance (Who I currently use and have OVER 120k miles tuned , 193k on the clock)
4) Palm Beach Dyno
5)5 Star tunes
*there are also more than a few Ecoboost FB pages that you can join which will have everybody and their moms recommending different tuners. Past what I have already given you I will say stay the fk away from SSI tunes.. dude is notorious for blowing peoples $hit up.
Now lets get to some $hit that you will want to look into past the basic bitch bolt ons
-Aftermarket intercooler
-170* Thermostat
-meth injection
if you dont recognize the common them with all of those its mods to help control your IAT temps.. while the meth injection is a bit extreme its amazing at what it does. I have it on 2 of my vehicles for that reason alone. Some guys like to actually tune with it since it bumps your octane up and will take more overall timing but never have been a fan of it. You run out of meth for some reason and all the sudden its getting ALL the timing... Eco go boom6'2" @ 247lbs
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09-08-2020, 07:41 AM #11
CAI is more for sound, even if it did show gains on a dyno it probably wouldnt be enough to actually feel it when driving.
A lot of vehicles these days have a stock design that is similiar to a CAI anyways, it is taking in air through a slot directly through the front grill of the vehicle instead of the old days taking in hotter air from the engine bay. Stock designs will have a more conservative snow/rain guard because they dont want to pay for warranty claims for water in an engine.
I replaced the intake on my hatchback hoping to get more sound but cars are so quiet these days, I can hear more turbo sounds but actual engine noise is still quiet. My older car from 2005, that made a huge difference in engine sound when I put a short ram intake on.
You can pick a conservative tune. I have one from unitronic for my GTI, it changes valve timings and increases turbo boost. It forces you to use >91 octane where as the stock tune wants >91 but will be able to adjust to protect the engine if you put 87 in and even says 87 is ok.
My car model has been out for 5 years now and there are other companies and tunes with a lot more aggressive boost than mine and not having blown engines so I picked one that say gets 90% of what they get but have the piece of mind that there is some additional buffer between my engine pressures and a blown engine. The performance per cost is so great with a tune who cares if you only get 80hp instead of 90hp or whatever, its a huge value even while being more conservative.
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