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    Originally Posted by radrd View Post
    My rolled rubber is laid directly on top of concrete foundation. It's definitely hard enough for me. I thought there might be a little more give to it, but that's not the case. It's difficult for me to imagine needing or wanting anything more solid.
    It's like anything else, if you never experience anything different then you'd probably never notice a difference. Never gave the pad gap on my benches a second thought until I got the Cybex 5435, it was normal. My rubber rolls on concrete have felt great for several years, only reason I built a platform was because I wanted a deadlift area and my rack bolted down so it didn't walk around. Same thing with rack adjustable mono's, never gave them a second thought until I gave them a try. Now I can't go back to squatting without them.

    Another good situation where I'd recommend a wood center, would be if you considered buying Titan's rubber squares that they use on their deadlifting platform. Those things have noticeable compression, moreso than horse stall mats or my rubber flooring. I would not want to deadlift on that surface but I think it would be good for absorbing the impact of the weight.
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    Having a solid surface is obviously important. What's going to be 'necessary' or preferred is going to vary from case to case, largely depending on what type of surface the platform is on top of.

    I initially started off with some interlocking rubber tiles I got on Amazon. They were way too soft, and I started looking for something else immediately after trying them for the first time.

    I decided to create a more traditional platform with hard rubber tiles on the sides and wood in the middle. I wasn't able to get enough rubber tiles or a frame initially, and didn't want to cut the wood until I had all of that, so I used just the rubber tiles for several weeks. These were great, and I definitely could be okay with an entire platform made of them.

    I then got all of the parts I needed, and decided to try out MDF board (I have normal 3/4" plywood underneath it which I can easily swap out if needed). It's working great so far. I like the plain/clean look of it, and have had zero slippage so far.

    Like I said, the rubber tiles alone felt great. I CAN feel the difference between that and the wood though. Does it really make much difference functionally, or have a noticeable impact on my results? No, probably not. I just feel a bit more stable on the wood, whereas there's just the tiniest amount of give with the rubber tiles.

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    Originally Posted by urbanlifter View Post
    Then there you go, you understand afterall but obviously adding hardwood to concrete wouldnt provide much added benefit considering its already an unforgiving surface. But there is a difference between the feel of squatting on wood vs rubber flooring. Wood is obviously harder, I'm sure we agree there. It also has the added benefit of looking nicer, like painting all your racks the same blue color
    How much do you squat that you feel, during the lift, a noticeable compression between a 3/4" stall mat over a concrete or wood surface, vs standing directly on a concrete or wood surface? That was actually a concern I had when I decided to get rid of my stall mats and squat right on concrete. It was quickly obvious that I didn't feel any difference at all, especially since i'm wearing lifting shoes. I still deadlift on both mats and plywood, and I don't feel a difference there, either.

    I like to put on hiking boots and pick up as much weight as I can hold in my hands/on my back and carry it around my uneven, compressible yard, so this argument seems more like a "princess and the pea" powerlifter thing to me.
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    Originally Posted by murphyreedus View Post
    so this argument seems more like a "princess and the pea" powerlifter thing to me.
    It's not really an argument, just a preference. You wanted a reason other than 'looks', you got it my friend
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    Originally Posted by urbanlifter View Post
    It's not really an argument, just a preference. You wanted a reason other than 'looks', you got it my friend
    Fair enough. I'll go back under my bridge and drink some more coffee.
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    I have a stained plywood top and have never had trouble with it being too slippery, you could mix in a bit of fine sand with the stain if you're really worried about it. I like the firmness compared to stall mats but that's probably just a matter of preference rather than any appreciable difference unless you're crazy strong. 4' Wide is fine for general lifting but if you're really into olympic lifting a 3.5' center is probably better. I do some oly lifting on my 4' and don't have a lot of issues but I don't drop the bar routinely.
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    Originally Posted by urbanlifter View Post
    Ever squat on a hardwood surface?
    I shared my experience squatting on said wood surface in the same post you quoted. My stall mats have virtually no compression, even with 400 lbs on my back. I'm not running any meets out of my garage, so I'm not worried about that.
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    I use a layer of maplewood ply wood on my lifting platform. Smooth, but more than enough traction.
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    Originally Posted by Sboarder1964 View Post
    I shared my experience squatting on said wood surface in the same post you quoted. My stall mats have virtually no compression, even with 400 lbs on my back. I'm not running any meets out of my garage, so I'm not worried about that.
    They have compression, drop to your knees from a standing position and tell me which surface is more forgiving, the hardwood or stall mats. But like others mentioned it's not going to make a massive difference, but it feels nicer IMO. Nike Romaleos + 100% flat hardwood surface FTW...
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    Originally Posted by urbanlifter View Post
    They have compression, drop to your knees from a standing position and tell me which surface is more forgiving, the hardwood or stall mats. But like others mentioned it's not going to make a massive difference, but it feels nicer IMO. Nike Romaleos + 100% flat hardwood surface FTW...
    Go back to where we were talking about olympic lifting. You're talking about dropping your weight onto the mat which is out of context. This discussion is in reference to static (not dynamic) exercises like the big 3. You will not notice a difference.
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    Originally Posted by Sboarder1964 View Post
    Go back to where we were talking about olympic lifting. You're talking about dropping your weight onto the mat which is out of context. This discussion is in reference to static (not dynamic) exercises like the big 3. You will not notice a difference.
    Go back and read the thread again, it's about slipping on wood. Apparently from all the responses you are one of the only people who had issues with your feet slipping on wood. Then the discussion turned to the question of what other reason would you use wood as an insert, which I provided given wood has less compression than rubber. If you still think it doesn't, not sure what else I can do to help you.
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    Originally Posted by urbanlifter View Post
    Go back and read the thread again, it's about slipping on wood.
    Says the guy talking about jumping onto your knees on stall mats.
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    Originally Posted by Sboarder1964 View Post
    Says the guy talking about jumping onto your knees on stall mats.
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    I prefer bulgarian knee pops for warm ups, and can confirm rubber knee mats fell much better.
    The pain from repeatedly landing on my knees on wood is (almost) unbearable.

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