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Thread: Ended it w/ girlfriend of 1 year
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09-17-2020, 09:27 PM #151
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09-18-2020, 06:31 AM #152
Damn one of my best friends had his ex wife do that exact same thing. Every single person in her phone magically became a girls name but she had to take every call in private lol. Luckily he divorced her ass and she still tries to come back 4 years later because the grass wasn't greener.
It's game over once you have to snoop the phone and you find that kind of stuff. All trust is gone forever and that's on the person doing wrong instead of the person for snooping bc their gut told them something was wrong.
If you find messages to family and friends mixed with work conversations, you've truly found a great woman and are lucky. Unfortunately way too many of these women have no virtues and what you'll sadly find is a few family related messages and work related messages mixed with a bunch of exes that they're entertaining, zero female friends that they're regularly talking to about life, and a bunch of just random phone numbers with no name of guys from snapchat and instagram or people that they've met in the real world that are hounding them to date them sending dick pics or whatever, while they flirt back just to keep them on the string. They entertain all this for attention and options and are broken souls. Count it a blessing if you saved a life long headache of this. Nothing would be different with a rock on the finger of a woman like this.
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09-18-2020, 09:43 AM #153
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09-18-2020, 08:21 PM #154
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09-18-2020, 08:50 PM #155
Here's my story, it's sad but true
It's about a girl that I once knew
She took my love then ran around
With every single guy in town
Yeah, I should have known it from the very start
This girl would leave me with a broken heart
Now listen people what I'm telling you
A-keep away from-a Runaround Sue, yeah
I miss her lips and the smile on her face
The touch of her hand and this girl's warm embrace
So if you don't wanna cry like I do
A-keep away from-a Runaround Sue
She likes to travel around, yeah
She'll love you and she'll put you down
Now people let me put you wise
Sue goes out with other guys
Here's the moral in the story from the guy who knows
I fell in love and my love still grows
Ask any fool that she ever knew, they'll tell ya
Keep away from-a Runaround Sue
Yeah keep away from this girl
I don't know what she'll do
Keep away from Sue!
She likes to travel around, yeah
She'll love you and she'll put you down
Now people let me put you wise
She goes out with other guys
Here's the moral in the story from that guy who knows
I fell in love and my love still grows
Ask any fool that she ever knew, they'll tell ya
A-keep away from-a Runaround Sue
Stay away from that girl
Don't you know what she'll do now
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09-19-2020, 10:22 PM #156
F**kin sucks tbh, back to the grind of dating.
I feel like saying that it really sucks that she did what she did, and it was pretty good aside from that - but I realize that's flawed logic.
The reality is I had constructed an image of her in my mind as a better/different person than she actually was. She was always that incompatible person with ****ty values, I just realized it after a year. It would have eventually surfaced.
Still really crappy that people do this stuff and lie etc.
Is there a faster way to figure out if someone has that integrity? Looking back I recognized that she didn't seem to have a solid set of principles (or principled thought patterns) like myself, so maybe I could've picked up on that.Last edited by Luc1fer; 09-19-2020 at 10:28 PM.
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09-20-2020, 07:00 AM #157
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09-20-2020, 08:47 AM #158
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09-20-2020, 08:56 AM #159
That's the tough thing. You either are too strict and end things earlier and possibly make a mistake in ending it because those minor things don't ever become major things, or you take the risk of finding out later that they've become major. Sometimes I think you have to take the risk. It's just hard finding that balance.
~ In a world where you can be anything, be kind ~
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09-20-2020, 09:19 AM #160
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09-20-2020, 09:20 AM #161
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09-20-2020, 09:22 AM #162
I think she was early 20s, more than 10 years younger than OP. Late 20s early 30s are more likely to be more grounded and interested in marriage and kids.
This is overall, of course, there could be exceptions.
But in this era I don't think a 22 year old is ready for marriage, especially one in a big city. Maybe in the Midwest part of the US?
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09-20-2020, 09:40 AM #163
I've relaxed a lot on constraints. I realized women can grow on me, even if they don't match my ideal set of things. Also, people are complicated and imperfect - there's a certain beauty to that.
That said, I have to strike the right balance there. There were certain promiscuous behaviors, and hyper-liberal mindset on sex within her friend group that made me a bit uncomfortable. But I did try to figure out why/how I felt that way, and honestly I think maybe I was too far one way, but she was too far the other. So there's a middle ground there. I'm not actually that conservative, but compared to them, ye.
I do still believe there's a line of reasoning between promiscuity and likelihood to cheat (sex isn't a big deal). However, much more important than that is the persons values and respect for the relationship - which she didn't have. And like you said, people can change and I believe many people introspect and figure themselves out mid-late 20's.
I'm dating a bit older now. She was 23. Beyond this incident, the age and generational gap was a little weird. But I'm not gonna rule out everyone, probably a bit more conservative would be okay.
But ye, target range is closer to 28-32 now.๐ฎ๐๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ถ, ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐
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09-20-2020, 09:45 AM #164
That's true. As you mentioned in the other thread, it's hard to find conservative women where you live. I'm sure they exist, but more out to the Central Valley or North of you would be more ideal, especially now that people are working remote.
Great that the range is 28-32! I know you don't want to get much older for having kids.
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09-20-2020, 09:48 AM #165
Yup, I told her I'd ideally like to have kids ~40, she'd be ~28. She acted a bit like that was too soon for her.
28 is fine imo (?!), I guess women now want to wait until 30's. Although I think it was more of thing she never really considered heavily (due to her age again).๐ฎ๐๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ถ, ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐
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09-20-2020, 10:53 AM #166
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09-20-2020, 03:26 PM #167
This means nothing. Women will tell you they will love you forever at 6PM on a Friday and by Sunday afternoon theyโre ready to move on with some random dude they used to hang with. Men donโt understand it because weโre not wired that way. A man can actually love two women (or more) at the same time. A woman cannot. She has to forcefully end it and make you irrelevant in her mind before she can latch onto someone else. The war bride theory explains that pretty well.
Then thereโs the culture aspect of it. You just have to realize that modern western women are broken. Itโs not even really their fault. Their biology combined with modern technology-assisted attention whoring makes sure that they just absolutely cannot ever be satisfied. Every man living in the US or any other western country needs to realize this, learn to be comfortable with it, and use it to their advantage.
That line from Heat;
โDonโt ever get attached to anything you canโt walk away from in 30 seconds flat, if you feel the heat around the cornerโ
-is is as accurate and helpful of a statement as it gets when dealing with modern women. Thatโs exactly how most of them view you, and they only truly respect you if you feel the same about them. Doesnโt mean you canโt have fun, but all rides end eventually. As a male in the modern era, you just have to come to terms with the fact that while you may be awesome, good looking, have a good life and are charismatic, etc., chances are that youโre never going to meet someone thatโs going to stay in your life forever.
Most of us wonโt, and thatโs ok. Enjoy the journey and have fun.
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09-20-2020, 03:59 PM #168
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09-20-2020, 04:34 PM #169
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09-20-2020, 04:43 PM #170
Possibly, but that's an extremely cynical view. I think there's truth embedded in what you write (I've read a lot of red pill stuff), but it's massively cynical and lumps all women into a single category which is flawed.
The general erosion of values in a world of attention whoring, modern culture that almost promotes cheating, highly promiscuous behavior, and general degeneration of society and class are valid concerns.
Given the context I have based on her actions, what she said to others etc. and what she did, my version makes more sense. Is it also possible she might have dropped me for this guy if the climate was right? Yup, that's possible too. Regardless, the deception, lying and secretly meeting this guy is enough in any case.
However I will urge you to re-consider your position on painting all women with exactly the same brush.๐ฎ๐๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ถ, ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐
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09-20-2020, 05:50 PM #171
This is just my opinion, but you don't need a big reason to end a relationship. I remember you mentioning several times that you didn't really see her as future wife material, and I think that's more than enough reason to end things before things get too serious. When you're young you can let relationships just go on and on, but at our age I think it's pointless unless you see real potential with her. Maybe that's cold, but it's better than wasting each other's time. Better for the woman too.
I think it's useful to have clear boundaries. Some girls are for fuking. Some girls are for dating. And some girls are for marrying. I know that there's more nuance to this and it's not always cut and clear, but at the end of the day, your head probably knows what's good for you better than your heart or your dick.
I often ended things at the drop of a hat, and it worked out for me eventually. And I wasn't even looking for marriage. That said, it could've been just dumb luck on my part, so I don't really know if that is the right answer.
As opposed to women who have finished riding the carousal? No offense man, but you often aim for "rehabilitated" drug users and such. Age isn't the main issue here. That said, there are arguments to be made for going older, especially if that's what he's more compatible with.
You hardly need to be a "Chad" to pull much younger. But it does help to not be ugly, be in decent shape, and not autistic. The idea that it would be that difficult is what makes it harder.Last edited by MediocreGains; 09-20-2020 at 06:01 PM.
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09-20-2020, 06:39 PM #172
Good post, you're right about my early mentality on this chick. I definitely did see her as just fun given the early signals.
But I keep getting criticism on here (and some irl) about being too strict/picky. So ye, I relaxed and just went with the flow just like people say to do. And tbh she was starting to grow on me a bit.
But sure, maybe I'm too old to be going with the flow and should just go with my early instincts. It's just a tough call, I get conflicting opinions about this. I have to "give a girl a proper chance" and at the same time cut her off earlier.
So you found a wife, any tips? Or just keep looking and get lucky?Last edited by Luc1fer; 09-20-2020 at 10:23 PM.
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09-20-2020, 09:54 PM #173
LOL you are right about the "former" drug users, although thankfully I haven't been with one since April. I just think that someone who is 34 (I'm guessing OP's age) who dates a 23 year old is going to run into some problems. Just like my "former" drug users have been a lot younger.
Women change a lot in their 20s. It sounds like OP is aiming for women who start at 28 though. Yeah maybe they finished riding the carousel and are now looking for a provider. It's all a risk, for both sexes. She could get Chad married and he's cheating on her left and right.
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09-21-2020, 06:27 AM #174
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09-21-2020, 01:20 PM #175
Noticed she blocked me on everything, wasnโt contacting her.
Pretty cold tbh, if the shoe were on the other foot I wouldโve apologized etc at least for doing something clearly wrong and disrespectful. Meanwhile she was badmouthing me as โuntrustingโ.
People suck.๐ฎ๐๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ถ, ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐
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09-21-2020, 01:25 PM #176
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09-21-2020, 01:28 PM #177
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09-21-2020, 01:32 PM #178
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09-22-2020, 01:25 AM #179
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09-27-2020, 09:49 PM #180
This is key here. I knew this girl was not marriage material at the beginning; I overcorrected from the strict set of criteria I typically have (which I've been criticized on) and went too far the other direction. Started to develop some feelings.
This girl was a slut, and her friends were. Sluts gon' slut.
Should've kept her in fuk zone. Lesson learned.๐ฎ๐๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ถ, ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐
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