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    Originally Posted by EliteBrah View Post
    depreciated my ass. Card is going for 1400-1600 on ebay and i can buy it for $778
    but you're not selling it so that means nothing. That's the thinking of a woman buying 800$ shoes because they were on sale.
    Have a great Friday you motherfukkeeeeeer!
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    Originally Posted by rectifryer View Post
    but you're not selling it so that means nothing. That's the thinking of a woman buying 800$ shoes because they were on sale.
    who said im not selling it?
    I have a powerseller account and im selling in in a bundle with my old mobo and cpu. Also, i could care less about the 7nm im not even sure Evga will bring the 3080/90 to tsmc most likely the higher volume lower tier cards.
    Also rectinoob, tsmc is 7.4nm and samsung is 7.6. Big deal
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    Originally Posted by EliteBrah View Post
    depreciated my ass. Card is going for 1400-1600 on ebay and i can buy it for $778
    Don't you have a 3090? If so, sell the FTW3 3080 to me bb? Pls???

    Edit: Didn't see the above post that you had other plans for it.
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    Well my ASUS TUF 3080 order was confirmed by CDW.ca, which is a step in the right direction. Just called them to ask what I can expect for a turnaround on this thing and they really have no idea when the cards will actually arrive, though they have almost 700 of these incoming and only about 140 orders outstanding. So when they do arrive, it should be a quick turnaround
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    Found one available

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    Originally Posted by FAPhaggot View Post
    Fuuuuuu.
    Ended up watching the listing a bit, they reduced the price to $2,499 in the same day and then I’m guessing it sold

    I refuse to indulge these prices, fuk ‘em
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    Originally Posted by EliteBrah View Post
    who said im not selling it?
    I have a powerseller account and im selling in in a bundle with my old mobo and cpu. Also, i could care less about the 7nm im not even sure Evga will bring the 3080/90 to tsmc most likely the higher volume lower tier cards.
    Also rectinoob, tsmc is 7.4nm and samsung is 7.6. Big deal
    . If you're selling it then obviously you don't believe in the card lmao stop contradicting yourself
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    A lot of people think this dude is full of sheiut, but...he makes some interesting points at the end after he talks about Big Navi.


    His last Ampere video he claimed like 300K 3080 chips going out. Now he claims he's hearing it's more like 50% of that because the chips didn't bin well enough to be 3080 chips.

    Now he says he believes Nvidia is throttling chip supply again because he thinks Nvidia might be about to basically re do the entire 3000 lineup in response to Big Navi since now more benchmarks are starting to show that non RT performance might not just trade blows with the 3080, but actually be even better.
    So possibly a slight price reduction on the 3080 and maybe a 3090 with less memory, say 12GB. (Now THAT I would be interested in if they offered it around $1,000.)
    Basically he believes they cancelled the 20gb 3080 and 16gb 3070 because they have no real place in the market any longer at their price points with where AMD will probably come in.

    November is going to be one very, very interesting month in this AMD vs Nvidia dogfight. I'm an Nvidia fanboy, but I think AMD is about to come in and seriously **** in Nvidia's cereal here...
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    Good. I'm still not getting an amd card, but if nvidia offers something better or a 3080 for cheaper I'm fine with waiting
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    Originally Posted by freeburn View Post
    Good. I'm still not getting an amd card, but if nvidia offers something better or a 3080 for cheaper I'm fine with waiting
    I don't think Nvidia has ever done it, but it sure looks like they're getting set up to redo the entire stack and adjust some prices. Will be very interesting to see how it plays out if true.
    Like...after someone fights tooth and nail to finally get one of the unicorn 3080's, you're going to reduce the price a month later? Damn brah. That might be fking someone even harder then they did 2080Ti owners lol.
    If a 12GB 3090 is true and they do it around $1,000, I'd 100% be down for that. I'll cancel my 3080 step up immediately and start the step up for the 12gb 3090. Gaming wise, you'd get the exact same performance as the 24gb 3090, but you wouldn't be paying all the insane markup for all the extra memory you have zero use for.
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    Fuuuuuu.
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    I don't think Nvidia has ever done it, but it sure looks like they're getting set up to redo the entire stack and adjust some prices. Will be very interesting to see how it plays out if true.
    Like...after someone fights tooth and nail to finally get one of the unicorn 3080's, you're going to reduce the price a month later? Damn brah. That might be fking someone even harder then they did 2080Ti owners lol.
    If a 12GB 3090 is true and they do it around $1,000, I'd 100% be down for that. I'll cancel my 3080 step up immediately and start the step up for the 12gb 3090. Gaming wise, you'd get the exact same performance as the 24gb 3090, but you wouldn't be paying all the insane markup for all the extra memory you have zero use for.
    even though it technically wasnt faster, back in i believe 2006 or 2007 Nvidia dropped the 8800gt which nearly matched the flagship card for $200 This was in part due to the consoles at the time being powerful and they wanted pc guys not to switch and also crysis just released and they did a node shrink.

    Will we ever have that type of situation again? I dont think so but with pressure from both amd AND consoles you get stuff like the $500 3070 which outperforms 2080ti
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    Originally Posted by EliteBrah View Post
    even though it technically wasnt faster, back in i believe 2006 or 2007 Nvidia dropped the 8800gt which nearly matched the flagship card for $200 This was in part due to the consoles at the time being powerful and they wanted pc guys not to switch and also crysis just released and they did a node shrink.

    Will we ever have that type of situation again? I dont think so but with pressure from both amd AND consoles you get stuff like the $500 3070 which outperforms 2080ti
    I dunno. This could actually be the first time we see a situation where AMD comes out with a card fast enough that forces Nvidia to drop price or add SKU's in between WAY earlier than they've ever done before.
    If AMD actually has supply - which I believe they do, and if their top card is at or above the 3080 for $700 - or even more ballsy $650 or so, they're going to put a serious fking hurting on Nvidia. People are over the waiting thing. Most will without a doubt jump to AMD if they can match or beat the 3080 performance at a similar price point. At this point even the hardcore Nvidia fanboys are ready to jump ship just as a fk you to Nvidia for this insanely bad launch.
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    I dunno. This could actually be the first time we see a situation where AMD comes out with a card fast enough that forces Nvidia to drop price or add SKU's in between WAY earlier than they've ever done before.
    If AMD actually has supply - which I believe they do, and if their top card is at or above the 3080 for $700 - or even more ballsy $650 or so, they're going to put a serious fking hurting on Nvidia. People are over the waiting thing. Most will without a doubt jump to AMD if they can match or beat the 3080 performance at a similar price point. At this point even the hardcore Nvidia fanboys are ready to jump ship just as a fk you to Nvidia for this insanely bad launch.
    Lets not... get overly retarded.

    they're coming out with new hardware to the market, now that doesn't mean they fixed their driver foundations across the whole technological landscape of drivers and apps.

    Lets not act like once you install the hardware that windows can't tell the difference between one card or the other.
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    Originally Posted by KingSWRV View Post
    Lets not... get overly retarded.

    they're coming out with new hardware to the market, now that doesn't mean they fixed their driver foundations across the whole technological landscape of drivers and apps.

    Lets not act like once you install the hardware that windows can't tell the difference between one card or the other.
    Big true.

    I hate your NVIDIA/Intel fanboyism. But I respect and darn near agree with the NVIDIA diehard decision. Granted, my only experience was a Radeon 7850 HD back in the day, but it was arse, with all kinds of driver issues and had terrible OC software. Went to NVIDIA and never went back after that. Still think I'd have a hard time committing to any AMD GPU, but I'm willing to do their CPU since they've tackled the final thing that they lacked which really matters in gaming: single-threaded performance.

    Regardless here's some considerations:

    1) There are times in gaming benchmarks where a 3090 is seen getting above 10GB VRAM in 1440p Ultra. Not even 1440p UW, but normal 1440p. So that makes a 16GB Radeon card actually kinda appealing, versus the only other option being a $1500+ 24GB monster, for those specific cases of games (and games yet to come) that need it at 1440p or higher native resolution if you toggle every single setting to ultra.

    2) NVIDIA >>>> AMD when it comes to RT + DLSS, but only if games have those features to begin with. Quite a few do and will, especially RT.

    I think those are compelling points to sway one way or the other.
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    From what I hear, AMD is taking driver situation very seriously. I really don't think they're going to have their typical bad launch drivers they have had in the past.
    Bottom line is this: unless leaked benchmarks are totally false - AMD is bringing a card that can compete with and/or surpass the 3080 in non RT performance. You can be an Nvidia fanboy all you want. But that's what the situation is looking like.
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    From what I hear, AMD is taking driver situation very seriously. I really don't think they're going to have their typical bad launch drivers they have had in the past.
    Bottom line is this: unless leaked benchmarks are totally false - AMD is bringing a card that can compete with and/or surpass the 3080 in non RT performance. You can be an Nvidia fanboy all you want. But that's what the situation is looking like.
    If they can come up with a DLSS alternative/solution, and handle RayTracing, putting aside historic driver issues they'd be dominating this holiday season with sufficient supply available.

    Regarding the driver issues.... you'd think since their own chipsets are used in the Series X and PS5, and simultaneously were on the Xbox One and PS4, that they'd actually have their chit together after all these years at the driver level.
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    More of Nvidia's lying.
    3070 isn't faster in any games at all than a 2080Ti lol.

    In like 1 or 2 games it comes within like 1%.

    Still an amazing buy for $500 though.
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    More of Nvidia's lying.
    3070 isn't faster in any games at all than a 2080Ti lol.

    In like 1 or 2 games it comes within like 1%.

    Still an amazing buy for $500 though.
    yea wtf its like 5-15 fps slower (depending on the games).. i mean for the price its good.. can't complain but to outright say this card outperforms 2080ti is straight up lie. nvidia can deepthroat itself for that one.
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    yea wtf its like 5-15 fps slower (depending on the games).. i mean for the price its good.. can't complain but to outright say this card outperforms 2080ti is straight up lie. nvidia can deepthroat itself for that one.
    Thats a reasonable to large difference.

    No point even upgrading from a 1080ti if you don't care about raytracing.

    RTX3070 will probably be canceled, srs.
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    Originally Posted by rectifryer View Post

    RTX3070 will probably be canceled, srs.
    Lmfao, pls. At $500 it's within 5-10% of the previous gen $1,000+ card. Unless AMD chits on them at the same price point, they'll sell the piss out of them.
    My only gripe is Nvidia's blatant lying saying it's faster than the 2080Ti when in reality, it doesn't even keep up in most titles, let alone surpass it.
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    Moore’s Law Is Dead still insisting this huge amount of cards will be hitting the market in the next 1-2 weeks. I don’t know what to believe at this point, but I sure as fk hope his supposed sources are right. This is beyond pathetic. ~6 weeks after launch and these cards are still unicorns unless you're ready to spend $1,200+ for one on eBay.
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    someone find me a good 3080 to buy lol

    was so close to pulling the trigger @ $1200 on ebay last night

    hopped back into Apex Legends and I'm getting poverty 80 FPS with low settings on SLI 1080tis, because I can't get the damn SLI profile working

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    I shunted just the pcie shunt with a 50miliohm resistor. Very tiny amount as it will only add 10% which will be 7 to 8watts which is pretty insignificant

    The real reason i did it is because Evga has totally locked down their cards. The pcie is locked in a ratio with the 8pins and once the pcie fills up to 75 watts it starts limiting the powerdraw of the 8pins.
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    any waiting on the 6000 series from AMD.


    if those benchmarks turn out to be true. than wow. amd pulled beast out of the bag.


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    for the 4K benchmarks, AMD posted 10 handpicked benchmarks

    RX 6900 XT lost in 5 of those handpicked benchmarks

    This was on a rig powered by a Ryzen 9 5900X, and AMD Smart Access Memory was enabled

    So unless your going to upgrade your entire rig from scratch, go ahead and deduct 10% from those results. Furthermore, it's an AMD exclusive card meaning you dont have overclocking headroom. It's kind of like last generation with the Titan vs 2080ti. The Titan was superior but the 2080ti was actually faster in games because it wasnt so limited as the titan. The titan being Nvidia exclusive and having very low TDP limiting overclocking headroom

    furthermore, we dont know if rage mode is active but since they are already trying to mislead by using smart access memory, most likely they are using rage mode as well, aka Max overclock vs stock 3090

    Cliffs:

    Weeding through the AMD marketing BS, we can see the 3090 is still faster in Rasterization. Lets not bring ray tracing and dlss into the discussion as Amd is waving the white flag there
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    Originally Posted by rectifryer View Post
    Thats a reasonable to large difference.

    No point even upgrading from a 1080ti if you don't care about raytracing.

    RTX3070 will probably be canceled, srs.
    No 3070 is priced better.

    The 6800 will probably outperform it 8% or so. It is 16% more expensive....

    The $80 is incredibly important in this pricing segment.
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    No 3070 is priced better.

    The 6800 will probably outperform it 8% or so. It is 16% more expensive....

    The $80 is incredibly important in this pricing segment.
    Yeah the only real thing with AMD is the 6900XT which is significantly cheaper than the 3090, and performs nearly as well.

    The other cards are as expensive as the nVidia counterpart, but they do waste less electricity.
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