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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    Lmao @ not waiting for real world benchmarks before jizzing your pants

    3070 "faster than 2080Ti"
    In what ways? With RTX on? That's probably the only way. How much faster? 2%?

    If it's truly fast than 2080Ti for that price then that's extremely impressive. I'll wait for real benchmarks, not synthetic crap companies use to say X is faster than Y just to put on slide shows.
    it's gonna have to be because of the power and efficiency of the ps5.
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    Originally Posted by EliteBrah View Post
    It doesnt exist in that it's not in the market and absolutely wont be when they launch their new cards
    thats what nvidia does and its smart. they knew about the 5700xt inside information prior to any announcement.. 5700xt releases july 7th 2019, and the rtx 2070 super releases on july 9th 2019. You think they pulled magical manufacturing out of their asses to one up AMD? Truly you are not that delusional into thinking nvidia just wants to give you a good price this generation instead of following pascal/turing price models that buttfuked all of us pc gamers.
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    Originally Posted by EliteBrah View Post
    You realize that big navi doesnt even exist right now and that if they were at all worried they could simply do a price cut before amd launch.........
    Confirmed you're truly fuking retarded. You really don't think Nvidia has a decent idea of what Big Navi performance will be? Got damn you're dumb.
    They aren't going to slash prices ~2 months after release, moron. Again...clueless how Nvidia works.


    First wave of cards is what they think will be adequate...they don't cut prices. Then second wave of cards is usually responses to AMD's offerings. Whether it's another wave of less or more powerful cards at cheaper or more expensive prices.
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    Originally Posted by EliteBrah View Post
    It doesnt exist in that it's not in the market and absolutely wont be when they launch their new cards
    So yesterday the 3090 didn't exist? or does it still not exist because it is not in the market?

    AMD held and let Nvidia move first.

    We have just as much info about Navi 21 and Navi 22 minus cooler design as we did about the 3000 series YESTERDAY.
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    Confirmed you're truly fuking retarded. You really don't think Nvidia has a decent idea of what Big Navi performance will be? Got damn you're dumb.
    what in the flying fuk does that have to do with what i posted.
    Since your too stupid to understand I'll have to explain
    Big navi = not on the market and wont be available during ampere launch.
    Aka nvda could launch the new cards $200 higher and they would still sell out.

    Your whole thing implying the price is low because they are scared of amd is retarded. If AMD has a killer gpu they could simply drop the 3070 price from 700 back to 500
    They are literally competing with nobody right now.

    I know your too stupid to understand this post so Ill wait for another 3 ppl to explain it to your dumb brain. This pricing implies absolutely nothing about AMD

    Originally Posted by Austanian View Post

    AMD held and let Nvidia move first.

    We have just as much info about Navi 21 and Navi 22 minus cooler design.
    Yes, we got very accurate leaks of the nvda specs and performance. and from the looks of things AMDs new gpu will disappoint big time.
    Unless they release it for $299 Nvidia should be unconcerned with amd and this pricing scheme implies nothing about amd
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    Originally Posted by EliteBrah View Post
    what in the flying fuk does that have to do with what i posted.
    Since your too stupid to understand I'll have to explain
    Big navi = not on the market and wont be available during ampere launch.
    Aka nvda could launch the new cards $200 higher and they would still sell out.

    Your whole thing implying the price is low because they are scared of amd is retarded. If AMD has a killer gpu they could simply drop the 3070 price from 700 back to 500
    They are literally competing with nobody right now.

    I know your too stupid to understand this post so Ill wait for another 3 ppl to explain it to your dumb brain. This pricing implies absolutely nothing about AMD
    Like I said. Your'e confirmed retarded and you're clueless how Nvidia releases cards.
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    Like I said. Your'e confirmed retarded and you're clueless how Nvidia releases cards.
    how about you take a perma ban if Navi turns out to be a turd. put your money where your mouth is
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    Well I mean the consoles are 12 tflops and the 3090 is 20 so it's looking like big navi will be a limp 15-16 tflops and brag hard about it.
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    Originally Posted by EliteBrah View Post
    how about you take a perma ban if Navi turns out to be a turd. put your money where your mouth is
    How about you stop acting autistic?
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    Originally Posted by rectifryer View Post
    Well I mean the consoles are 12 tflops and the 3090 is 20 so it's looking like big navi will be a limp 15-16 tflops and brag hard about it.
    Where are you pulling this data? 3090 is 35.7 TFLOPs.



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    I haven't upgraded my PC in 7 years mainly because I was waiting for HDMI 2.1. How much % better is the 3090 to the 3080 for the cost?
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    Only retards talk about GPU performance in terms of tflops. They literally mean absolutely nothing in terms of a cards actual performance.
    You seem to know a lot about these video cards, so I have a question for ya:

    I'm about to build my first gaming rig in years. It's mainly for FLightSim 2020 and Microsoft's "ideal" hardware is RTX2080. I'm guessing if I buy the 3070 I'll have better performance that the run of the mill 2080 for FlightSim. Your thoughts?

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    Originally Posted by PlanoLifter View Post
    You seem to know a lot about these video cards, so I have a question for ya:

    I'm about to build my first gaming rig in years. It's mainly for FLightSim 2020 and Microsoft's "ideal" hardware is RTX2080. I'm guessing if I buy the 3070 I'll have better performance that the run of the mill 2080 for FlightSim. Your thoughts?

    If it matters I'm looking at a Ryzen 9 3900X for the build.
    based on jensen's graph, the rtx 3070 is slighty better than the 2080ti. Obviously you are going to need real world testing, but $500 rtx 3070 > $1000-$1200 rtx2080ti.. also the rtx 3070 will have more of these "cores" so it will likely help you when it comes to ray tracing. If you want noticeable graphical improvement you are going to need to jump to the rtx 3080 or 3090.

    edit: sorry you said rtx 2080 regular.. yea just buy the rtx 3070 if its your budget of $500. If you got more money to spend the rtx 3080 should provide a big boost in performance at $700
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    First of all, last gen was a huge price increase because of the R&D cost for RTX. This isnt a permanent life long increase. Do you think when the price jumps it will automatically carry over to every generation? BRB nvda 5xxx series flagship costs as much as a new car

    Secondly, I know you guys like to think PC doesnt compete with consoles but it absolutely does. If your sitting on an older gpu (large majority of pc gamers) and see a big performance console for $400-500 just launch you may just buy that and leave no budget left to upgrade pc. You can still play your pc games and it will work just fine, but big titles you switch to consoles.
    There is plenty of data supporting this absolutely does happen. Thats why it's so important for new gpus to release when new consoles do.

    In fact, there is precedent for this like when NVDA RELEASED THE 8800GT FOR $200
    Crysis released and people were shelling out big money to get gpus to play it. Nvda didnt need to but they still released that beast for dirt cheap... out of the kindness of their hearts. More like, the sales revenue justified the price point. And guess what, nothing amd released even competed but according to you guys they must have been scared of AMD
    When new consoles release it's important to release a big performance leaping gpu at a solid price. last gen was different because the ps4 and xbox1 were so weak out of the gate, unlike 2 generations ago when ppl were playing oblivion and other titles on their consoles but high end pcs were brought to their knees playing the same games. This time around consoles are going hard

    Originally Posted by rectifryer View Post
    Well I mean the consoles are 12 tflops and the 3090 is 20 so it's looking like big navi will be a limp 15-16 tflops and brag hard about it.
    dont compare amd and nvda flops. There are nvda cards with lower flops that wipe the floor with amd equivalents. You wont get anything out of that
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    Originally Posted by PlanoLifter View Post
    You seem to know a lot about these video cards, so I have a question for ya:

    I'm about to build my first gaming rig in years. It's mainly for FLightSim 2020 and Microsoft's "ideal" hardware is RTX2080. I'm guessing if I buy the 3070 I'll have better performance that the run of the mill 2080 for FlightSim. Your thoughts?

    If it matters I'm looking at a Ryzen 9 3900X for the build.
    Flight sim is pretty damn demanding on GPU's. There's no reason at all to not wait for 3000 series RTX at this point. I mean...even IF the performance is only marginally better - the price point still makes it the better buy over 2000. Nvidia put it in 2000 series owners asses hardcore with this pricing.
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    Confirmed you're truly fuking retarded. You really don't think Nvidia has a decent idea of what Big Navi performance will be? Got damn you're dumb.
    They aren't going to slash prices ~2 months after release, moron. Again...clueless how Nvidia works.


    First wave of cards is what they think will be adequate...they don't cut prices. Then second wave of cards is usually responses to AMD's offerings. Whether it's another wave of less or more powerful cards at cheaper or more expensive prices.
    Bro chill teh **** out u been a dick in this whole thread. We get it you have a gtx 2080ti and you are pissed u paid $2000 for it but no need to be a dick and a negative nancy about it.

    Why are you getting so rustled about this whole thing man? No need to call him a retard and act like a child just because you have a difference of opinion.
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    Originally Posted by Weezy32 View Post
    Bro chill teh **** out u been a dick in this whole thread. We get it you have a gtx 2080ti and you are pissed u paid $2000 for it but no need to be a dick and a negative nancy about it.

    Why are you getting so rustled about this whole thing man? No need to call him a retard and act like a child just because you have a difference of opinion.
    Thats his normal behavior it isnt because hes getting screwed on the 2080ti. he does this in every other thread he posts in
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    Originally Posted by EliteBrah View Post
    last gen was different because the ps4 and xbox1 were so weak out of the gate, unlike 2 generations ago when ppl were playing oblivion and other titles on their consoles but high end pcs were brought to their knees playing the same games. This time around consoles are going hard
    lmfao you truly are dumb or just trolling.. high end pcs had a hard time running oblivion?
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    Originally Posted by rocketfish View Post
    based on jensen's graph, the rtx 3070 is slighty better than the 2080ti. Obviously you are going to need real world testing, but $500 rtx 3070 > $1000-$1200 rtx2080ti.. also the rtx 3070 will have more of these "cores" so it will likely help you when it comes to ray tracing. If you want noticeable graphical improvement you are going to need to jump to the rtx 3080 or 3090.

    edit: sorry you said rtx 2080 regular.. yea just buy the rtx 3070 if its your budget of $500. If you got more money to spend the rtx 3080 should provide a big boost in performance at $700
    Yeah I think for the extra $200 I'd be more future proof with the 3080.
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    Originally Posted by rocketfish View Post
    lmfao you truly are dumb or just trolling.. high end pcs had a hard time running oblivion?
    Oblivion came out in 2006. Minimum Specs:

    OS: Windows XP, Windows 2000, Windows XP 64-bit.
    Processor: Intel Pentium 4 @2 GHz.
    Memory: 512MB System RAM.
    Graphics: 128MB Direct3D compatible video card and DirectX 9.0 compatible driver;
    8x DVD-ROM drive.
    Storage: 6 GB free hard disk space.
    DirectX: Version 9.0c (included)
    Sound Card: DirectX 8.1 compatible sound card.

    The best GPU at the time: LOL
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    Originally Posted by Weezy32 View Post
    difference of opinion.
    Nah, matter of fact. He's retarded.
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    Originally Posted by EliteBrah View Post
    not understanding what you are waiting for in a monitor?
    The predator x27 is a 4k 144hz HDR Gync with Quantum Dot and fast Response Time. I got that **** forever ago.

    If your looking for something bigger or an Oled, you can now buy an LG tv @ 48".
    Personally i have a 65" c9 that i will use with the hdmi 2.1 thats coming on the 3090.
    Point is, there is nothing really to wait for the technology is out there. Maybe your waiting for a price drop?>
    I'm waiting for the PG32UQX - the successor to your monitor. With HDMI 2.1. I wasn't into a gimped 4k experience at higher refresh rates.

    I also have a 65" C9 - reserved for a console.
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    Originally Posted by Visel View Post
    Where are you pulling this data? 3090 is 35.7 TFLOPs.



    https://www.anandtech.com/show/16057...-3080-rtx-3090
    They were preliminary numbers but aye lmao at that slaughterfest. Big Navi is fisting itself right now in panic.
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    Originally Posted by EliteBrah View Post
    First of all, last gen was a huge price increase because of the R&D cost for RTX. This isnt a permanent life long increase. Do you think when the price jumps it will automatically carry over to every generation? BRB nvda 5xxx series flagship costs as much as a new car

    Secondly, I know you guys like to think PC doesnt compete with consoles but it absolutely does. If your sitting on an older gpu (large majority of pc gamers) and see a big performance console for $400-500 just launch you may just buy that and leave no budget left to upgrade pc. You can still play your pc games and it will work just fine, but big titles you switch to consoles.
    There is plenty of data supporting this absolutely does happen. Thats why it's so important for new gpus to release when new consoles do.

    In fact, there is precedent for this like when NVDA RELEASED THE 8800GT FOR $200
    Crysis released and people were shelling out big money to get gpus to play it. Nvda didnt need to but they still released that beast for dirt cheap... out of the kindness of their hearts. More like, the sales revenue justified the price point. And guess what, nothing amd released even competed but according to you guys they must have been scared of AMD
    When new consoles release it's important to release a big performance leaping gpu at a solid price. last gen was different because the ps4 and xbox1 were so weak out of the gate, unlike 2 generations ago when ppl were playing oblivion and other titles on their consoles but high end pcs were brought to their knees playing the same games. This time around consoles are going hard


    dont compare amd and nvda flops. There are nvda cards with lower flops that wipe the floor with amd equivalents. You wont get anything out of that
    RDNA and nvidia's gaming architecture have been nearly 1:1 for fps versus tflops.

    And lol at anyone who claims tflops don't matter. They're clearly confused over how different architectures affect it.
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    Only retards talk about GPU performance in terms of tflops. They literally mean absolutely nothing in terms of a cards actual performance.
    It's an odd metric to chose for sure. Some people are going to be in for a bit of a disappoint if they expect their new console to perform better than a 2080ti
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    Originally Posted by rectifryer View Post
    And lol at anyone who claims tflops don't matter. They're clearly confused over how different architectures affect it.
    Literally anyone who knows absolutely ANYTHING about GPU's knows that teraflops mean absolutely NOTHING when being compared to different architectures.

    I love how some of you pretend you actually know anything at all about GPU's, but the posts you make show you don't know squat.
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    Literally anyone who knows absolutely ANYTHING about GPU's knows that teraflops mean absolutely NOTHING when being compared to different architectures.

    I love how some of you pretend you actually know anything at all about GPU's, but the posts you make show you don't know squat.
    lmao go ahead and upgrade to big navi since tflops dont matter
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    Originally Posted by rectifryer View Post
    lmao go ahead and upgrade to big navi since tflops dont matter
    ...when did I ever say or give the idea that I was buying an AMD card? I wouldn't buy an AMD card even if they destroyed RTX3000 at half the price because their drivers blow.

    But the average buyer (which represents like 90% of the market) doesn't know or care about that. And Nvidia is apparently smarter than most of you are and knows this and has adjusted their pricing to reflect that.

    Or you can keep living in dumb fuk land and think that Nvidia just decided to give you all more performance for less money because they're just nice people and become a multi billion dollar company because they don't like making more money when the competition allows it.

    Throughout the years, Nvidia has always been significantly more expensive than AMD any time they have cards that significantly out perform AMD.
    Now they've done something different in offering a (supposedly) massive leap in performance - at a cheaper cost. And you can't comprehend that it's because they know they finally have some sort of competition...
    Nah, they just altered their business model and said fk the extra profit all to be nice to customers who would have had zero issue at all paying RTX2000 prices for these cards.
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