September 1st - NVIDIA GeForce Special Event (RTX 3000 series)

[Destor]

I'm gonna go from 2 x 970s to a 3090 I think. Might be overkill for just gaming but will hopefully set things up for a long time

[Stackerbruh]

I think us Nvidia card buyers will always get duped. Bought a RTX 2080 TI? BAM, here's the RTX 3080 for half the price. Want a cheap titan card? BAM here's the 3090
But we all know what's coming...

Bought the RTX 3090, but hol up a minute.. here's the 3090 TI! and the 3080 TI/SUPER

Endless dupe

[rocketfish]

Yeah can confirm. I just scored a 2080 ti FTW3 for $545.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-GeForc...53.m2749.l2649


Idiots..

lmfao the jokes on you now. you got a used video card for $45 more than the new graphics card at $500 that will out perform it and likely have better ray tracing performance

[cromofo]

lmfao the jokes on you now. you got a used video card for $45 more than the new graphics card at $500 that will out perform it and likely have better ray tracing performance

for real. strong retardation

[rocketfish]

upgrading my vega 64 to an rtx 3000 series purely for the nvidia broadcast features and noise reductions even though I don't stream. but a playa can dream can't he


unless big dick navi comes through like the kool-aid man

[cromofo]

dlss tech is the biggest thing that attracts me to nvidia. I don't believe amd will come close to that any time soon

raytracing + dlss 2.0 is nuts

[Holyfenix]

i dont have money

Go get a bartending job a couple nights a week for a few weeks. You'll easily clear $100 a night in wages and tips, My buddy works at a bar 4 nights a week and says he typically brings home a about $1000 a week and his wife is making six figures as a nurse.

[FFailed]

I think us Nvidia card buyers will always get duped. Bought a RTX 2080 TI? BAM, here's the RTX 3080 for half the price. Want a cheap titan card? BAM here's the 3090
But we all know what's coming...

Bought the RTX 3090, but hol up a minute.. here's the 3090 TI! and the 3080 TI/SUPER

Endless dupe

These are a massive upgrade in performance and cost though. The previous gen was nowhere near this much of a jump. People were selling 1080tis used for almost 500$ still for a long time.

[KathleenRyan]

I'm waiting for Big Navi. Yeet.

[deaglebrah]

I'm going to build a new PC with a 3070 in it after this. HYPE!!

[Austanian]

I think us Nvidia card buyers will always get duped. Bought a RTX 2080 TI? BAM, here's the RTX 3080 for half the price. Want a cheap titan card? BAM here's the 3090
But we all know what's coming...

Bought the RTX 3090, but hol up a minute.. here's the 3090 TI! and the 3080 TI/SUPER

Endless dupe

Not seeing how NAVI is going to match 3090.

I would bet money if NAVI 21 out performs 3080 a 3080 TI will be introduced the next week.

That is really the only way this pricing makes sense.

[rocketfish]

Not seeing how NAVI is going to match 3090.

I would bet money if NAVI 21 out performs 3080 a 3080 TI will be introduced the next week.

That is really the only way this pricing makes sense.

nvidia will always have the flag ship, but pricing/performance on these cards are clearly a product of what Nvidia knows about Big Navi

[R3L3NTL3SS]

nvidia will always have the flag ship, but pricing/performance on these cards are clearly a product of what Nvidia knows about Big Navi

Yep. Exactly what I said ITT yesterday. "Unless they're extremely worried about Big Navi, they're not giving you these massive performance leaps for those prices"

That $500 3070 would be $800+ if they weren't worried about AMD. Nvidia doesn't charge anything less than they absolutely have to. They aren't doing this as a favor to the consumer lmao. This is a direct result of being worried about competition for once.

[Destor]

I don't even know what Big Navi refers to, but it seems like a win for us as the consumers

[Visel]

Watched the video while it was live, very gamer centered and I'm happy for that.

RTX 3080 at $700 was $100 less than my prediction (expected $800).
RTX 3090 at $1500 was $100 more than my prediction (expected $1400).

The 3080 having 10GB VRAM is pretty good, but I was hoping for at least 12GB. I think that this alone will be a big incentive for some to hold out on getting the 3080 Ti, which will likely have 12GB-18GB VRAM. Only really matters though for those who play at 4K, or dare to try 8K.

RTX 3090 at a wopping $1500 leaves plenty of room for 3080 SUPER and 3080 Ti variants to make sense down the road.

Any and all performance comparisons, or "benchmarks", that I've seen for the 3070/3080/3090 have been on the i9-10900k, which is limited to PCI-e 3.0. RTX 30 being a PCI-e 4.0 compatible GPU, this could mean slightly better performance gain if on a PCI-e 4.0 motherboard, AKA Intel 11th gen, or AMD Zen 3.

I'm skeptical about the core counts listed, because it's labeled as "2x FP32", so you might need to "divide by 2 and multiply by 1.2" to get a true comparison of the core count numbers compared to RTX 20 / GTX 10 for example. Unsure if that's true though, little fuzzy on this subject.

I think that with everything presented, I'll be doing the following...

Once a PCI-e 4.0 compatible CPU comes out (AMD's Zen 3 | Intel's 11th Gen), I'll get an all new PC, listed below to describe the upgrades.

i7-4790k -> 11900k (Intel 11th) OR 4900/4950X (AMD Zen 3)
PCI-e 4.0 mobo for the above
16GB DDR3 1666 mhz -> 64GB (16GBx4) DDR4 RAM
EVGA GTX 1070 -> Gigabyte/EVGA RTX 3080
250 GB SSD SATA 3 -> 2TB M.2 nVME pci-e 4.0
Non-modular 750 Watt PSU -> Modular 850/900 Watt PSU
CM Storm Enforcer -> Corsair Carbide 678C



EDIT:

Random thought I wanted to add, RTX 3090 is the only GPU confirmed compatible with the new NVLINK variant for SLI. Good thing to note going forward, pretty much confirms SLI is dead.

[EliteBrah]

Relax
Strong Cope

They did a $100 price cut compared to where they launched last gen...
And that was almost guaranteed because of the research and development costs bringing RTX to market. Thats been recouped mostly
Now they bring back normal pricing and everyones up in arms that they must be scared of AMD.

Am I the only one who remembers when they launched the 8800gt for like 200 bucks? Did they need to do that? no
There is a ratio of sales to price. If they already have big margins its more important to get the sale than it is to keep increasing margins. You want ppl to commit to the new generation

If anything, they are more concerned with the new consoles and making pcs seem much more powerful at a reasonable price

[rocketfish]

Yep. Exactly what I said ITT yesterday. "Unless they're extremely worried about Big Navi, they're not giving you these massive performance leaps for those prices"

That $500 3070 would be $800+ if they weren't worried about AMD. Nvidia doesn't charge anything less than they absolutely have to. They aren't doing this as a favor to the consumer lmao. This is a direct result of being worried about competition for once.

I know... I remember the gtx1060 got a price reduction immediately after the rx480 was announced (its direct graphical competitior)

When 5700xt were announced, all of a sudden super versions were available with a price reduction on the regular versions.

This is exciting because now I can't wait to see what big navi is going to do, but i'm likely getting an RTX 3000 series for the software features alone.

[R3L3NTL3SS]

Now they bring back normal pricing and everyones up in arms that they must be scared of AMD.

You're truly retarded if you don't think the ONLY reason these cards are less than 2000 series is because they're worried about AMD. Lmao, can't even take anything you post srs now.

"Here's MORE for LESS!!!" ...said Nvidia like...never.

The market share they have over AMD is insane. They have ZEROOO reason to offer you ANYTHING more for less other than competition. You know...that thing AMD has basically never been able to to do (until now it looks like)...compete with Nvidia?

[Austanian]

I don't even know what Big Navi refers to, but it seems like a win for us as the consumers

AMD RDNA2 (second generation NAVI Cards) are expected to be a large improvement on the current generation AMD cards.

NAVI 21 BIG NAVI has a die that is roughly the equivalent of two 5700xts. That combined with IPC improvements means it should be able to beat the 2080TI by 30-40%.
NAVI 22 Looks A LOT like the XBOX Series X card with a higher TDP and faster memory bandwidth and it wouldn't be unlikely this can match the 2080 TI.

Nvidia's pricing and performance jumps at each tier reflects that they believe AMD has something.

[EliteBrah]

You realize that big navi doesnt even exist right now and that if they were at all worried they could simply do a price cut before amd launch.........

They are not competing with anyone right now
LOL if you dumb enough to think this price has anything to do with amd


Also, new leaks from sources that were reliable in the past suggest it's only 15% faster than the 2080ti
These are from similar sources that nailed down the ampere specs

So amds big and bad card which will probably have a TDP of 450watts will compete with the 3070.....LOL and also be lacking the drivers, RTX, and DLSS

BUT NVDA IS SO SCARED!

[bartosh]

You're truly retarded if you don't think the ONLY reason these cards are less than 2000 series is because they're worried about AMD. Lmao, can't even take anything you post srs now.

"Here's MORE for LESS!!!" ...said Nvidia like...never.

The market share they have over AMD is insane. They have ZEROOO reason to offer you ANYTHING more for less other than competition. You know...that thing AMD has basically never been able to to do (until now it looks like)...compete with Nvidia?

They could have done a market analysis for the lifetime sales of the 20xx generation and may be banking on selling significantly more at this better pricepoint

They also could have had accrued significant R&D costs for RTX that forced them to price so high. Just speculating though

[rocketfish]

You realize that big navi doesnt even exist right now and that if they were at all worried they could simply do a price cut before amd launch.........

They are not competing with anyone right now
LOL if you dumb enough to think this price has anything to do with amd

so you are telling us that nvidia is clueless about what their competition is doing? They pour billions (jensen's words in the rtx3000 video) into research and development but are out of the loop on big navi?

big navi does exist, we just don't know about it. Big navi in form of a console apu does exist in the xbox series x at 12 tflops. extrapolate that into an actual dedicated graphics card for pc.. nvidia only have one competitor, wouldn't even doubt they have insiders that work for amd being double agents. Nvidia always had immediate answers to AMD, from the gtx 1060 to battle rx480 on announcement, to the super variants released immediately after 5700xt's annoucement.

Nvidia is very smart, reason they lead the market and won't let AMD have a graphic card more powerful than theirs. You should be happy we have an upcoming $500 card better than the flagship 2080ti.. nvidia never did that in the previous release.

[EliteBrah]

so you are telling us that nvidia is clueless about what their competition is doing? They pour billions (jensen's words in the rtx3000 video) into research and development but are out of the loop on big navi?

big navi does exist, we just don't know about it. Big navi in form of a console apu does exist in the xbox series x at 12 tflops. extrapolate that into an actual dedicated graphics card for pc.. nvidia only have one competitor, wouldn't even doubt they have insiders that work for amd being double agents. Nvidia always had immediate answers to AMD, from the gtx 1060 to battle rx480 on announcement, to the super variants released immediately after 5700xt's annoucement.

It doesnt exist in that it's not in the market and absolutely wont be when they launch their new cards

[rectifryer]

Lmao @ not waiting for real world benchmarks before jizzing your pants

3070 "faster than 2080Ti"
In what ways? With RTX on? That's probably the only way. How much faster? 2%?

If it's truly fast than 2080Ti for that price then that's extremely impressive. I'll wait for real benchmarks, not synthetic crap companies use to say X is faster than Y just to put on slide shows.

it's gonna have to be because of the power and efficiency of the ps5.

[rocketfish]

It doesnt exist in that it's not in the market and absolutely wont be when they launch their new cards

thats what nvidia does and its smart. they knew about the 5700xt inside information prior to any announcement.. 5700xt releases july 7th 2019, and the rtx 2070 super releases on july 9th 2019. You think they pulled magical manufacturing out of their asses to one up AMD? Truly you are not that delusional into thinking nvidia just wants to give you a good price this generation instead of following pascal/turing price models that buttfuked all of us pc gamers.

[R3L3NTL3SS]

You realize that big navi doesnt even exist right now and that if they were at all worried they could simply do a price cut before amd launch.........

Confirmed you're truly fuking retarded. You really don't think Nvidia has a decent idea of what Big Navi performance will be? Got damn you're dumb.
They aren't going to slash prices ~2 months after release, moron. Again...clueless how Nvidia works.


First wave of cards is what they think will be adequate...they don't cut prices. Then second wave of cards is usually responses to AMD's offerings. Whether it's another wave of less or more powerful cards at cheaper or more expensive prices.

[Austanian]

It doesnt exist in that it's not in the market and absolutely wont be when they launch their new cards

So yesterday the 3090 didn't exist? or does it still not exist because it is not in the market?

AMD held and let Nvidia move first.

We have just as much info about Navi 21 and Navi 22 minus cooler design as we did about the 3000 series YESTERDAY.

[EliteBrah]

Confirmed you're truly fuking retarded. You really don't think Nvidia has a decent idea of what Big Navi performance will be? Got damn you're dumb.

what in the flying fuk does that have to do with what i posted.
Since your too stupid to understand I'll have to explain
Big navi = not on the market and wont be available during ampere launch.
Aka nvda could launch the new cards $200 higher and they would still sell out.

Your whole thing implying the price is low because they are scared of amd is retarded. If AMD has a killer gpu they could simply drop the 3070 price from 700 back to 500
They are literally competing with nobody right now.

I know your too stupid to understand this post so Ill wait for another 3 ppl to explain it to your dumb brain. This pricing implies absolutely nothing about AMD

AMD held and let Nvidia move first.

We have just as much info about Navi 21 and Navi 22 minus cooler design.

Yes, we got very accurate leaks of the nvda specs and performance. and from the looks of things AMDs new gpu will disappoint big time.
Unless they release it for $299 Nvidia should be unconcerned with amd and this pricing scheme implies nothing about amd

[R3L3NTL3SS]

what in the flying fuk does that have to do with what i posted.
Since your too stupid to understand I'll have to explain
Big navi = not on the market and wont be available during ampere launch.
Aka nvda could launch the new cards $200 higher and they would still sell out.

Your whole thing implying the price is low because they are scared of amd is retarded. If AMD has a killer gpu they could simply drop the 3070 price from 700 back to 500
They are literally competing with nobody right now.

I know your too stupid to understand this post so Ill wait for another 3 ppl to explain it to your dumb brain. This pricing implies absolutely nothing about AMD

Like I said. Your'e confirmed retarded and you're clueless how Nvidia releases cards.

[EliteBrah]

Like I said. Your'e confirmed retarded and you're clueless how Nvidia releases cards.

how about you take a perma ban if Navi turns out to be a turd. put your money where your mouth is