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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    So the 3090 I guess is the equivalent of 2000 series Titan RTX I guess?
    yeah thats what I'm getting out of that.
    so the jump goes from $700 to $1500 and nothing in between

    Almost making it an absolute certainty that a slightly less powerful 3080ti will release next year as a stop gap in price. Maybe $1,000 to $1,200.
    It should have 12mb to 16mb memory since the 3080 only has 10
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    I have a feeling all that "faster than" and 2X faster than" stuff was either with DLSS on and/or purely with RTX on.
    To make a card 2X more powerful than a 2080Ti in terms of raw performance in one generation would be completely insane. But maybe I'm wrong. Hopefully we don't have to wait much longer to see real benchmarks instead of words on launch event slide shows making claims that we've seen many times from these companies are not accurate at all.
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    Wow Prices are better than expected
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    I have a feeling all that "faster than" and 2X faster than" stuff was either with DLSS on and/or purely with RTX on.
    To make a card 2X more powerful than a 2080Ti in terms of raw performance in one generation would be completely insane. But maybe I'm wrong. Hopefully we don't have to wait much longer to see real benchmarks instead of words on launch event slide shows making claims that we've seen many times from these companies are not accurate at all.
    Do you own a 2080 ti lol
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    Originally Posted by KramericaInd View Post
    Do you own a 2080 ti lol
    2080ti-cels in disbelief
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    Originally Posted by KramericaInd View Post
    Do you own a 2080 ti lol
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    If the 3090 is really as good as they claim I wil just buy it and send my 2080Ti to my HTPC ayylmao.

    I have a feeling the numbers they threw at us are for RTX ON with DLSS and **** so I am waiting for in-game benchmarks before ordering.
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    Originally Posted by Lexira View Post

    I have a feeling the numbers they threw at us are for RTX ON with DLSS and ****
    That's basically guaranteed the case IMO.
    Raw performance wise, there's absolutely no way they made that kind of jump in one generation.

    I stand by why I said. 3080 maybe 20-30% more powerful in real, non RTX performance.
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    Regardless, the 3080 handily beats the 2080ti in all scenarios and is prices at only 699.
    Dont just focus on the 3070.....

    2080ti owners are getting screwed hard but this was obvious from long ago.
    I knew there was a heavy early adopters fee for RTX and all 2xxx generation buyers paid for it. I knew this was coming so i was quite vocal about selling my 2080tis while they still had value
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    2080ti crew. Wild stuff but I ain’t mad. Got a buddy who will be building soon on a mid-budget. Would be dope to gift him the 2080ti and pick up a 3080. That’s significantly less money than I was planning on spending. But still want to see the real benchmarks. I don’t know too much about this stuff so I’m not really sure the impact of the less vram etc.

    But ray tracing and DLSS are the real deal so probably definitely a crazy good deal for the 3070/3080

    To be able to get next gen graphics card and a ps5 this fall for the same price I was expecting to spend on just the graphics card. Das it
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    RIP AMD
    Not sure if srs. This is what that Nvidia pricing says: AMD is coming in hard with Big Navi. Period.

    Nvidia would absolutely, positively not be giving this kind of performance for these prices if they knew the competition was nowhere near them.
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    Anyone kow much the 3090 will draw and the recommend psu wattage (good, gold quality) to pair with it?

    Gonna start buying stuff now.
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    Originally Posted by KramericaInd View Post
    Anyone kow much the 3090 will draw and the recommend psu wattage (good, gold quality) to pair with it?

    Gonna start buying stuff now.
    They said 3090 needs a 750watt psu.
    If you want to overclock both the gpu and whatever cpu your using plus leave a lot of headroom get a 1000watt gold.

    At this point you dont know which version of the 3090 you will get. Maybe you wont get the founders edition which uses the new 12pin but instead a partner card which is trying to compete and uses 3x 8 pin and higher power draw. Dont do the minimum leave a lot of headroom.

    Evga has some amazing psus. I like the https://www.evga.com/products/produc...210-GQ-1000-V1

    Corsair is also very reputable in the psu market
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    Okay so apparently that small thing they talked about each shader in Ampere being like 2 Turing shaders is actually a thing.

    According to Nvidia, the RTX 3090 has 10,496 CUDA cores, the RTX 3080 has 8,704 CUDA cores, and the RTX 3070 has 5,888 CUDA cores, a straight 2x jump of 5248, 4352 and 2944 respectively.

    5248 * 2 FP32 * 1714MHz * 2 =36TFLOPS beefy as heck
    The 3080 is the high end card.
    3090 is titan replacement not 2080ti replacement
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    Not sure if srs. This is what that Nvidia pricing says: AMD is coming in hard with Big Navi. Period.

    Nvidia would absolutely, positively not be giving this kind of performance for these prices if they knew the competition was nowhere near them.
    Werent people claiming big navi was going to be near a 2080ti which is now what apparently Nvidias lowest card matches? Hard to believe with this large of a jump AMD is going to catch up when their weak lineup before wasnt even close. I hope for the AMD fan boys Im wrong but they seem to dissappoint with every release.
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    lmao holy crap people already trying to offload their 2080ti for $400-500 lol
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    Originally Posted by KhumatMibra View Post
    lmao holy crap people already trying to offload their 2080ti for $400-500 lol

    just went on ebay.


    and yeah new listing are pure LOL


    $500 - 600 for 2080ti


    why not wait for benchmarks
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    Originally Posted by KhumatMibra View Post
    lmao holy crap people already trying to offload their 2080ti for $400-500 lol
    Wot.

    Xtremeleeeely dumb to do. Raw performance will NOT be what Nvidia said today...just wait for real benchmarks.
    Lmao at morons acting like 2080Ti is now some kind of irrelevant card.
    I will give my 2080Ti away to someone if a $500 card can out perform it with DLSS and RTX off.
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    Originally Posted by Weezy32 View Post
    I have a GTX 1080 now.

    WIll my CPU and/or motherboard hold me back if i upgrade to 3080?


    I have I7 6800K @ 3.4GHZ

    and this motherboard

    https://www.newegg.com/evga-x99-ftw-...82E16813188184


    Will i be able to play 4k 60 fps max setting games?
    Yes and no.

    Your 6800k bottlenecks a gtx 1080, something like a 3080 will be in a wheelchair by it


    however;


    Playing at 4K takes a big load(lulz) off of the CPU so you can get away with it to a mild degree
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    Originally Posted by EliteBrah View Post
    They said 3090 needs a 750watt psu.
    If you want to overclock both the gpu and whatever cpu your using plus leave a lot of headroom get a 1000watt gold.

    At this point you dont know which version of the 3090 you will get. Maybe you wont get the founders edition which uses the new 12pin but instead a partner card which is trying to compete and uses 3x 8 pin and higher power draw. Dont do the minimum leave a lot of headroom.

    Evga has some amazing psus. I like the https://www.evga.com/products/produc...210-GQ-1000-V1

    Corsair is also very reputable in the psu market


    Bought that same one thanks. Now to wait for next gen amd cpu, new Mobo, more fans, faster ram. Nice.
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    Originally Posted by EliteBrah View Post
    BOOM

    you wanted benchmarks and not marketing?

    This just dropped
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ature=emb_logo

    wow
    And not a single chart showing multiple games with actual frame rates in numbers was seen.
    Also why is he only comparing a 2080 non Super or non Ti? Wouldn't it be more fair to compare the 2080Ti? Or will there be a 3080Ti later?
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    why is he only comparing a 2080 non Super or non Ti? Wouldn't it be more fair to compare the 2080Ti? Or will there be a 3080Ti later?
    Im sure there will be a 3080ti later on. Nvidia says they 3080 is the top ampere card and that the 3090 is a titan replacement not necessarily meant to be compared to the 2080ti...although in gaming sense the 3090 kills it performance wise
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    Originally Posted by EliteBrah View Post
    Nvidia says they 3080 is the top ampere card
    Right. That's why I'm not sure why the video you linked isn't comparing the top Turing card - 2080Ti.
    He's using whats basically a 2070 Super to compare the 3080 to.
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    Originally Posted by EliteBrah View Post
    Okay so apparently that small thing they talked about each shader in Ampere being like 2 Turing shaders is actually a thing.

    According to Nvidia, the RTX 3090 has 10,496 CUDA cores, the RTX 3080 has 8,704 CUDA cores, and the RTX 3070 has 5,888 CUDA cores, a straight 2x jump of 5248, 4352 and 2944 respectively.

    5248 * 2 FP32 * 1714MHz * 2 =36TFLOPS beefy as heck
    The 3080 is the high end card.
    3090 is titan replacement not 2080ti replacement
    Cuda cores, just like Tflops don't mean jack **** for real performance.

    10 cores vs 5 does not = double the performance. That's...not the way it works.
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    Cuda cores, just like Tflops don't mean jack **** for real performance.

    10 cores vs 5 does not = double the performance. That's...not the way it works.
    nobody is expecting 2x performance.
    Just adding raw info to the thread for ppl to digest. This is a very large generation over generation performance increase

    More benches will come. Check out the DF video, the 3080 absolutely crushes the 2080 by 70% or more in non RT games
    They dont just make stuff up this is real
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    Originally Posted by EliteBrah View Post
    nobody is expecting 2x performance.
    So people screeching that the 3080 will have 2x the performance of a 2080Ti just like Nvidia's cute slide show said is expecting 2x the performance?

    Oh...well that clears it up.
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    Originally Posted by EliteBrah View Post
    More benches will come. Check out the DF video, the 3080 absolutely crushes the 2080 by 70% or more in non RT games
    They dont just make stuff up this is real
    Again...he's comparing a 2080 which is basically a 2070 Super. 2080Ti is like 30-35% more powerful than a 2070 Super, depending on title.
    That 70% performance starts to look a lot less mind blowing when it's compared fairly.
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