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    Water retention and carb intake

    I started my bulking 2 months ago and I am very bloated I am consuming 600 grams of Carbs. If I reduced it to 250-300grams would I have a loss in strength gain and muscle size due to glycogen? I’m doing 5x5 icf. I think it reaches an amount of carbohydrates that has no benefit to consume more. What do you think?
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    Not likely if you are still in a net caloric surplus. It sounds like your surplus might be excessive at the moment. How fast are you gaining weight?
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    You do not need to ridiculously overload on carbs to keep up your glycogen stores.

    Just eat at a small surplus and eat a normal amount of carbs

    Don't gain more than 2lb per month
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    Originally Posted by SuffolkPunch View Post
    Not likely if you are still in a net caloric surplus. It sounds like your surplus might be excessive at the moment. How fast are you gaining weight?
    2-3lb week. Last week 3lb. I thought I was making 500 calories of surplus but I shouldn't be calculating the calories well
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    Originally Posted by AlexSays View Post
    You do not need to ridiculously overload on carbs to keep up your glycogen stores.

    Just eat at a small surplus and eat a normal amount of carbs

    Don't gain more than 2lb per month
    How much is normal amount of carbohydrates?
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    Originally Posted by brunogouveia58 View Post
    2-3lb week. Last week 3lb. I thought I was making 500 calories of surplus but I shouldn't be calculating the calories well
    Far too much. You should probably reduce your calorie intake by about 700 calories. What is it now?
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    Originally Posted by brunogouveia58 View Post
    How much is normal amount of carbohydrates?
    There is no minimum requirement. Maximum requirement is only limited by your calorie needs - after you've met your protein and fat needs.
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    Originally Posted by brunogouveia58 View Post
    2-3lb week. Last week 3lb. I thought I was making 500 calories of surplus but I shouldn't be calculating the calories well
    It's all about getting your numbers right when it comes to this sort of thing. If your numbers are way off as they appear to be, then all of your efforts will be for naught at best or work dramatically against you at worst. Get the math right... It's a trial and error process that requires discipline, adherence, and consistency to nail down but once you do, you'll be happy you did! Hope that helps some...
    Without proper diets and effective meal plans dialed in, you might well be spitting in the wind.
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    Originally Posted by SuffolkPunch View Post
    Far too much. You should probably reduce your calorie intake by about 700 calories. What is it now?
    3800 calories at this time.
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    Originally Posted by brunogouveia58 View Post
    3800 calories at this time.
    Try 3000. Bring it down more if you gain more than 2lbs a month.
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    Originally Posted by brunogouveia58 View Post
    2-3lb week. Last week 3lb. I thought I was making 500 calories of surplus but I shouldn't be calculating the calories well
    How tall are you and what is your weight? You more than likely need to drop between 700-1,000 calories a day.
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    Originally Posted by Tommy W. View Post
    How tall are you and what is your weight? You more than likely need to drop between 700-1,000 calories a day.
    5`11 and 192lb.
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    i'm doing icf training 5x5 and it takes me 2 hours to complete it so i must also burn a lot of calories
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    Originally Posted by brunogouveia58 View Post
    i'm doing icf training 5x5 and it takes me 2 hours to complete it so i must also burn a lot of calories
    You'd burn more with shorter rest periods. 2 hours is way too long.
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    Originally Posted by brunogouveia58 View Post
    5`11 and 192lb.
    You probably shouldn't even be bulking...

    You can probably gain muscle while maintaining or even losing weight slowly.
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    Originally Posted by SuffolkPunch View Post
    You probably shouldn't even be bulking...

    You can probably gain muscle while maintaining or even losing weight slowly.
    I started the bulk with 165lb and came from a low carb cutting. is it better to end bulking?
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    I think I also gained too much weight this week because I weighed myself after completing the creatine loading phase
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    You need to post a pic otherwise it's just guessing
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    Originally Posted by brunogouveia58 View Post
    I started the bulk with 165lb and came from a low carb cutting. is it better to end bulking?
    You've already gained a load of fat. I wouldn't be keen to gain more but it's your body.
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    Originally Posted by brunogouveia58 View Post
    I started my bulking 2 months ago
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    I started the bulk with 165lb
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    5`11 and 192lb.
    A 27 pound gain in 2 Months? Abort. Abort. Abort.
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    You need to post a pic otherwise it's just guessing
    here are the photos. it was my first bulking I come from a very long cutting with more than 30% bodyfat
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    A 27 pound gain in 2 Months? Abort. Abort. Abort.
    I don't know how I gained so much weight
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    I don't know how I gained so much weight
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    Originally Posted by brunogouveia58 View Post
    these are photos from before I started bulking
    need recent. Before photos are meaningless
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    need recent. Before photos are meaningless
    I sent to the current photos above these. two posts before
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    Originally Posted by brunogouveia58 View Post
    I sent to the current photos above these. two posts before
    Sorry didn't see those. You're gaining too quickly. Your muscle gain to fat gain ratio is way off. drop calories way down. You're not fat by any means however at the current rate of gain you will be. You've gotten too soft. Keep track of your waist measurement that is a good gauge of how much fat you're gaining.
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    Originally Posted by SuffolkPunch View Post
    Try 3000. Bring it down more if you gain more than 2lbs a month.
    Strange I reduce to 3200 and in one week lose 2lb. Why did this happen?
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    Originally Posted by brunogouveia58 View Post
    Strange I reduce to 3200 and in one week lose 2lb. Why did this happen?
    Water retention and bloating was reduced.
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    Originally Posted by brunogouveia58 View Post
    Strange I reduce to 3200 and in one week lose 2lb. Why did this happen?
    Just keep going at 3200 kcal. Are you still making strength gains?
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