BCAA or EAA !?

[TheFugitive]

bcaas for sure matter esp intra-training

I take them sometimes with whey protein for extra bcaas which already have eaa's woth protein

ive even drank an inta protein drink and took bcaas intra training

of course they matter

BCAAs intra, protein shake post, it's never failed me

[OT2000]

It’s great to see that even in a dead forum a Bcaa thread has a little room to fly.

For my points, the guy who said 5g of leucine is better for MPS than 5g bcaa is accurate. Next, for bcaas to have the enzymatic environment to be useful Intra workout, you need a few conditions. One, glycogen storage low and ample amounts of taurine and glutamine otherwise it can’t properly be used as an energy substrate.

Which is not what almost 99% if bcaa users are meeting.

[Ghawk21]

It’s great to see that even in a dead forum a Bcaa thread has a little room to fly.

For my points, the guy who said 5g of leucine is better for MPS than 5g bcaa is accurate. Next, for bcaas to have the enzymatic environment to be useful Intra workout, you need a few conditions. One, glycogen storage low and ample amounts of taurine and glutamine otherwise it can’t properly be used as an energy substrate.

Which is not what almost 99% if bcaa users are meeting.

Wouldn't the 5g of leucine run into the same problems as BCAAs where it can trigger MPS but without the other AAs, there isn't anything there for the actual reaction to happen. I've always looked at it like a chemistry equation where AA(substrate)+ BCAA(catalyst)= MPS reaction. I haven't taken a chem course in awhile so apologies if I'm way off lol. You can have AAs but without adequate BCAA(especially leucine) there's no reaction and vice versa?

[OT2000]

Wouldn't the 5g of leucine run into the same problems as BCAAs where it can trigger MPS but without the other AAs, there isn't anything there for the actual reaction to happen. I've always looked at it like a chemistry equation where AA(substrate)+ BCAA(catalyst)= MPS reaction. I haven't taken a chem course in awhile so apologies if I'm way off lol. You can have AAs but without adequate BCAA(especially leucine) there's no reaction and vice versa?

You would have to be fasting for a substantial amount of time for the other amino acids to not be present. Total protein turnover whether through synthesis or degradation is always occurring. You can influence either way of course through amino uptake(eating) or fasting(degradation) and even disease etc. There is almost always enough circulation of proteins ie amino acids to not need the other two to rise MPS. Leucine alone can do this and seems to be better at it individually. Of course, getting in all aminos through eating or a whey, even enough of all nine essentials is the best route.

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[lucia316]

The majority of studies are opinion based, and they're very easy to manipulate in your favor

Here's another from BB.com

https://www.bodybuilding.com/content...g-workout.html

L-O-friggen-L

"Blah, blah, blah"

Complete retardation.

And I responded in that artile's comments years ago. A lot of what she wrote was typical BB.com "article" garbage pushing supps. But hey, sure, they'd totally publish stuff saying, "Don't buy supps gaiz."

As always your placebo edge is powerful and your hypocrisy of, "I like science when the confirmation bias is present, but not otherwise," is trash too.

And more lulz.

bcaas for sure matter esp intra-training

I take them sometimes with whey protein for extra bcaas which already have eaa's woth protein

ive even drank an inta protein drink and took bcaas intra training

of course they matter

Dat redundancy on top of redundancy making it matter

[TheFugitive]

Is a combination of BCAAs and EAAs overkill? I believe it is. BCAAs are instantly available for use where as EAAs are not. We get enough EAAs through our diet and let's face it, taking them with a BCAA has no benefit pre or intra workout.

BCAAs intra and a protein shake post-workout outweighs any BCAA/EAA cocktail.

[Ghawk21]

Is a combination of BCAAs and EAAs overkill? I believe it is. BCAAs are instantly available for use where as EAAs are not. We get enough EAAs through our diet and let's face it, taking them with a BCAA has no benefit pre or intra workout.

BCAAs intra and a protein shake post-workout outweighs any BCAA/EAA cocktail.

A protein shake is a BCAA/EAA cocktail?

[TheFugitive]

A protein shake is a BCAA/EAA cocktail?

Minus the protein

[Jeff the Repper]

BCAAs intra, protein shake post, it's never failed me

Serious question, you ever think of dropping them for a couple months and maybe just add a whey shake or meal post workout? How about you do it for 2-3 months, in exchange I'll add them in for the same amount of time months and see what happens. I'll even follow your protocol

[TheFugitive]

Serious question, you ever think of dropping them for a couple months and maybe just add a whey shake or meal post workout? How about you do it for 2-3 months, in exchange I'll add them in for the same amount of time months and see what happens. I'll even follow your protocol

Why not just try using BCAAs intra for a month followed by a protein shake post-workout and post your thoughts

[Ghawk21]

Why not just try using BCAAs intra for a month followed by a protein shake post-workout and post your thoughts

I did this for years and when I stopped taking the BCAAs I noticed exactly zero difference in my training, progression and recovery.

[b_andersson]

The majority of studies are opinion based, and they're very easy to manipulate in your favor

Here's another from BB.com

https://www.bodybuilding.com/content...g-workout.html

You just linked to what i were saying:

1) While you can definitely get enough of these aminos if you eat adequate servings of protein foods

2) These compounds, especially leucine, help regulate protein metabolism by promoting protein synthesis and suppressing protein breakdown


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While you can definitely get enough of these aminos if you eat adequate servings of protein foods, getting them from a drink has its advantages. For example, pure BCAAs bypass the liver and gut and go directly into your bloodstream.

Although it's important for everyone to get enough BCAAs, they're particularly important for people with muscle-building or muscle-maintenance goals. These compounds, especially leucine, help regulate protein metabolism by promoting protein synthesis and suppressing protein breakdown.*

[b_andersson]

It really comes down to dedication. I never train without them, but I'm always looking for an edge

Great if it helps for you im glad. like my metal music help me when training. its subjective and if you can perform one more rep thats a win. But if you would marketing metal music playlist for $29 for 30 days i would skip.

[lucia316]

Why not just try using BCAAs intra for a month followed by a protein shake post-workout and post your thoughts

And there we have it, "Just try it bro."

Prototypical Fug thread has been completed.

[AMeyer9]

Years later, still trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.

[lucia316]

Years later, still trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.

But if you try to put a round peg in a square hole it's never failed me. Just try it bro.

[TheFugitive]

Years later, still trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.

But if you try to put a round peg in a square hole it's never failed me. Just try it bro.

See you guys in the next one

[MaDFroG88]

Well i have tried both BCaa and EAA haven''t noticed any difference. BCAA taste better though, at least the xtend brand!

[Ghawk21]

This thread didn't need to come back.

[TheFugitive]

This thread didn't need to come back.

Thought it was a new thread ;(