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    A conspiracy to steal the election: Worker alarmed over removal of sorting

    Postal worker reports removal of sorting machines. Removal of key equipment from Post Offices should be viewed as nothing less than "sabotage", says one observer.


    Sorting machines are now being removed from post offices in Iowa state due to new policies implemented by the Postmaster General, a GOP donor to Trump.

    "I grew up in a culture of service, where every piece was to be delivered every day. And his policies, although they've only been in place for a few weeks, are now affecting the way that we do business and not allowing us to deliver every piece every day, as we've done in the past," said Karol. "I don't see this as cost-saving measures. I see this as a way to undermine the public confidence in the mail service. It's not saving costs. We're spending more time trying to implement these policy changes. And it's, in our offices, costing more over time.
    This explanation of "cost savings" is pure BS. Looks like an attempt to affect an election where more than ever, people will vote by mail. That is absolutely Trump's motivation; for DeJoy it looks to be self-enrichment where he could pick up a hefty windfall from this.

    Corruption and desperation are foul smelling colognes! Another piece falls into place of my July prediction that Trump is actually trapped, implicitly knows, at least, that he is trapped, and is in a Catch-22. I claimed a month or so ago that Trump might try anything, legal or illegal, to try and forestall the election because he knows he is screwed the day he leaves the whitehouse; the SDNY will be waiting for him.


    Looks like my prediction is receiving another confirmation. Stay tuned, because I fully anticipate Trump's desperation will intensify and he will shove more and more disingenuous aces up his sleeves. There is little I see him refraining from to stay in office, when the alternatives for him are so dire.
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    I don't know if fukking with the postal service is such a good idea. This is something that people deal with every single day, to not get their mail, packages, and ads is one thing, but being that this is the delivery method for absentee ballots, something a lot of old people rely on this is not a good look. I can't see these people blaming ol' Sleepy Joe for this.
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    Originally Posted by Johnez View Post
    I don't know if fukking with the postal service is such a good idea. This is something that people deal with every single day, to not get their mail, packages, and ads is one thing, but being that this is the delivery method for absentee ballots, something a lot of old people rely on this is not a good look. I can't see these people blaming ol' Sleepy Joe for this.
    Course it's not a good idea, lol. Looks like intentionally delaying the post is a crime, as the link explains.

    This is part of a larger argument which I began in July. I expected Trump will become the very embodiment of "desperation intensifies", and becoming increasingly emboldened by what happened with the Mueller and impeachment fiascos, has evolved (or devolved?) into an utterly lawless, reckless creature for whom things like the rule of law, and peaceful transition of power mean nothing.

    I can almost guarantee this is just phase #2 as ever more desperate and reckless chips fall. Can't wait to see what the coming weeks and months will bring.
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    So they’ll need more time? How is this effecting total votes? It’s not.
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    Mail delivery times are grinding down like crazy

    Not sure why they think the juice is worth the squeeze here. Desperation is def a factor though. Its a bad look partially because it signals another breakdown in this nation.
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    Revamping the USPS was a campaign issue for Trump in 16, was it not?

    And thank god cause that last PMG was a complete and utter disaster
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    Revamping the USPS was a campaign issue for Trump in 16, was it not?

    And thank god cause that last PMG was a complete and utter disaster
    I have no issue with anyone making the USPS more efficient. But the removal of sorting machines and increased delivery times is not good. It's more of a disaster than we already had. Or do you think the results we have seen so far are a good thing?
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    Originally Posted by i3oosted View Post
    So they’ll need more time? How is this effecting total votes? It’s not.
    Correct. This will slow down the delivery of both R and D votes.
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    Excellent news.

    POC routinely receive, hand delivered no less, hate and racist mail, including report cards.....by white men in modern day gestapo uniforms, goose stepping all over those neighborhoods... because of this, I say, defund the Post Office!
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    Originally Posted by PlanoLifter View Post
    I have no issue with anyone making the USPS more efficient. But the removal of sorting machines and increased delivery times is not good. It's more of a disaster than we already had. Or do you think the results we have seen so far are a good thing?
    Personally, I have been all for a complete removal of the USPS for years. It would be better off being privatized.

    This is one carrier's observation, for all we know the machine was removed because a new, better machine was being brought in.
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    Conspiracy eh?


    The states have until the 1st Monday after December the 12th for their electors to cast votes.

    Plenty of time....



    The us postal service has had on and off over budget and modernization issues for decades.


    People came out with this new thing called “email” and electric billing ya know? Changed things a bit.

    Postal’s workers unionized fighting to keep things the same, congressmen fighting to maintain an efficiency for votes etc....



    Then you add in the likes of Amazon trying to settle whole bunch of packaging now....

    Things in Society chains and we have to make adjustments to be efficient.


    These outdated sorting machines (many still needed) are clogging up space for the USPS to modernize for package sorting efficiency in the same facility size.

    Ready-Now ➔ Future-Ready The U.S. Postal Service
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    ...... later in publication.....

    Current Business Environment
    and Key Trends

    To fulfill our USO in 2019, we provided access
    through 26,362 Postal Service-managed Post Offices; 4,960 stations, branches, and carrier annexes; and 55,000 other access points comprising a network of commercial outlets which sell stamps on our behalf Many of our services can also be accessed through our website, usps com On an average day, our 633,000 employees processed and delivered 471 million mailpieces to nearly 160 million delivery points, utilizing approximately 204,000 delivery vehicles, 8,500 pieces of automated processing equipment, and a variety of transportation methods to move mail and packages through this large network, including contracted highway and air transportation

    Over the last decade, the Postal Service has deployed market-leading innovations in the mail and parcel delivery services and improved productivity We pioneered Sunday package delivery and became a leader in providing last-mile package delivery services These innovations and product expansions have enabled us to more than double package revenues to $22 8 billion in FY2019) and more than triple the contribution provided by packages to institutional costs (to 24 7 percent in FY2019) Innovations, such as Informed Delivery, are enhancing the utility of mail as an advertising medium in the digital age and are used by more than 20 million Americans


    ......

    The Postal Service operates in a very dynamic and competitive mail and package delivery marketplace Total volume of First-Class Mail and Marketing Mail has declined by 34 percent (approximately 66 billion pieces) since 2007 due to the proliferation of electronic bill presentment and payment, social media platforms, and e-mail Package volumes, which have almost doubled since 2007 and have been the Postal Service’s primary source of revenue growth, began to demonstrate slowing growth beginning in 2017, with growth ceasing entirely in the last two quarters of 2019, as commercial customers insourced more of their last-mile deliveries These trends are projected to continue over the next five years

    The following statutory and regulatory constraints have limited our ability to respond to market forces:

    ƒ A Consumer Price Index-based price cap for mail products, representing 67 percent of revenues, results in prices that are insufficient to provide adequate revenue to pay for fixed universal service obligation costs and other legally mandated costs amid secular volume declines

    ƒ The universal service obligation to maintain six-day- a-week mail delivery to all geographies and to keep unprofitable retail locations open results in a large proportion of costs being devoted to delivery and retail operations that deliver less mail to an ever- increasing number of delivery points

    ƒ Federally-mandated retiree and employee benefit programs result in high benefit costs that are growing faster than the rate of inflation
    In combination, these factors have led to a large financial deficit Since 2007, we have suffered 13 years of consecutive net losses, totaling $77 8 billion Our financial challenges reflect the simple dynamic that our largely fixed and mandated costs continue to rise at a faster rate than the revenues we are able to generate in the competitive marketplace Though the lump-sum and amortization expenses for prefunding retiree health benefits (RHB) (excluding normal costs) account for approximately 74 percent of our cumulative net losses over the last 13 years, these losses were partially offset by revenue growth from growing package volumes,
    a temporary exigent price increase for mail, and cost reductions As we look to the next five years with the prospect of continued price caps on mail, increased competition for package deliveries, and rising USO costs, resolving only the RHB funding issue will not fill our projected financial gap
    Our financial condition can be improved, and the Postal Service can continue to be self-reliant The Postal Service’s problems are readily identifiable, and their solutions are implementable While it is incumbent upon Congress and the PRC to address structural and business model deficiencies before the deficit grows even larger and requires more drastic and politically difficult solutions, the Postal Service will continue to implement all cost-reduction and revenue-generation measures available under existing law

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    Yet op wants to keep the Dinosaur and efficient apparatus in place for one day every few years



    The sad part is the postmaster and other people that have been working on modernizing are now being demonized for political purposes - when they are simply just doing the right thing we’ve been needing to do.
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    Postal workers raising alarms? Well no chit -Postal workers hate packages in general- they miss the good all days when I can drop a bunch of letters and a sorting machine pulled them out take them and deliver them- nice and easy.


    Packaging is a sob right now - it doesn’t have to be though - facilities just need to modernize (as they are trying to do)


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    Postal-Service Workers Are Shouldering the Burden for Amazon

    The tech giant’s rise has pushed mail clerks and carriers to the breaking point.

    Every day postal trucks drop off about 4,000 packages at a US Postal Service station in central Tennessee, where they’re unloaded by a team of around six USPS employees. Each person grabs a box, rushes to the only scanning machine, runs the bar code, and then places it in the proper gurney for its route. The process takes about 10 seconds, and it can be repeated as many as 200 times in an hour.

    “You’ll see all of us, management included, trying to get under the machine, scanning packages and then tossing them, trying to get through it,” said Amanda, a USPS clerk who works there. “I’m pretty sure every one of us has at least one repetitive-motion injury.”

    Around one-third of the packages Amanda handles are shipped by Amazon. As the Seattle-based tech giant commands an ever greater share of the retail market, the number of packages handled by the USPS keeps increasing. But employees say Postal Service management hasn’t responded to the surge in heavy items by investing in staffing or infrastructure. Instead, its leadership has cut costs and resorted to what union leaders call “management by stress.”

    “We absolutely don’t have proper staffing for the amount of packages we get,” said Amanda, who withheld her full name for fear of workplace repercussions. “Everyone in the office is overwhelmed by it, but the only way management’s going to respond is if you file an incident report. People are just so busy that they’ll say, ‘It’ll be fine tomorrow.’ It’s not.”

    Amazon was able to make a deal to ship its packages through USPS at cut-rate prices, because the company preemptively sorts and labels packages by postal route. But transporting and distributing these packages still takes clerks like Amanda much longer than sorting letters, which can be fed through a machine. If the clerks are delayed, the station’s carriers will be delayed in starting routes, which are already longer than ever thanks to the packages filling up their satchels and trucks. Many won’t deliver their final box until well after the sun has set.

    “If there’s a lot of Amazon, it just gums up the works,” Amanda said. “Things get backed up by two, three hours.”


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    https://www.thenation.com/article/ar...en-for-amazon/


    Problem-current apparatus doesn’t support high volume package delivery well, it supports outdated letter delivery


    Solution- modernize facilities by removing some sorting machines and replacing with automated package belt sorting apparatuses.



    UPS and FedEx has already done the engineer in groundwork for how to set up packing sorting- all they have to do with literally install it.
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    How is this not election interference?
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    How is this not election interference?
    it certainly is, but it insanely short sighted. im curious to see how bad the delivery times get. theyre already getting pretty bad and the USPS changes are just getting started. i dont know how ol' boy is going to explain the breakdown that every citizen is going to experience. even outside of voting. just in general where the mail system gets destroyed

    they act like usps is a service that is provided to dems exclusively. it appears to be a "desperate times call for desperate measures" kind of move.

    whoever is involved is playing with fire. it aint worth it, or at least it shouldnt be
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    Postal worker reports removal of sorting machines. Removal of key equipment from Post Offices should be viewed as nothing less than "sabotage", says one observer.


    Sorting machines are now being removed from post offices in Iowa state due to new policies implemented by the Postmaster General, a GOP donor to Trump.



    This explanation of "cost savings" is pure BS. Looks like an attempt to affect an election where more than ever, people will vote by mail. That is absolutely Trump's motivation; for DeJoy it looks to be self-enrichment where he could pick up a hefty windfall from this.

    Corruption and desperation are foul smelling colognes! Another piece falls into place of my July prediction that Trump is actually trapped, implicitly knows, at least, that he is trapped, and is in a Catch-22. I claimed a month or so ago that Trump might try anything, legal or illegal, to try and forestall the election because he knows he is screwed the day he leaves the whitehouse; the SDNY will be waiting for him.


    Looks like my prediction is receiving another confirmation. Stay tuned, because I fully anticipate Trump's desperation will intensify and he will shove more and more disingenuous aces up his sleeves. There is little I see him refraining from to stay in office, when the alternatives for him are so dire.
    This is BLATANT Election Fraud by Conservatives. This shows me that Drumpf thinks he has no chance to win a fair election. That's also why his people are getting Kanye West qualified in many states to take black votes away from Biden.
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    Originally Posted by Sal29 View Post
    This is BLATANT Election Fraud by Conservatives. This shows me that Drumpf thinks he has no chance to win a fair election. That's also why his people are getting Kanye West qualified in many states to take black votes away from Biden.
    so instead of Russia, Russia, Russia we're gonna blame the post office, which has been failing for a decade or longer, because it can't implement wide spread mail in voting five months before an election
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    Originally Posted by AriGhold View Post
    How is this not election interference?
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    it certainly is, but it insanely short sighted. im curious to see how bad the delivery times get. theyre already getting pretty bad and the USPS changes are just getting started. i dont know how ol' boy is going to explain the breakdown that every citizen is going to experience. even outside of voting. just in general where the mail system gets destroyed

    they act like usps is a service that is provided to dems exclusively. it appears to be a "desperate times call for desperate measures" kind of move.

    whoever is involved is playing with fire. it aint worth it, or at least it shouldnt be

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    Sounds like you'll have to show up in person to vote then, huh?
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    Did I miss where they banned in person voting?
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    Originally Posted by Trapstar4.4 View Post
    it certainly is, but it insanely short sighted. im curious to see how bad the delivery times get. theyre already getting pretty bad and the USPS changes are just getting started. i dont know how ol' boy is going to explain the breakdown that every citizen is going to experience. even outside of voting. just in general where the mail system gets destroyed

    they act like usps is a service that is provided to dems exclusively. it appears to be a "desperate times call for desperate measures" kind of move.

    whoever is involved is playing with fire. it aint worth it, or at least it shouldnt be
    No, it’s not worth it. Because it’s already being shouted from the rooftops that mail is problematic. Most people I know who don’t plan to vote in person are planning to drop their ballots at the clerks office. I plan to vote in person because I kind of like it.

    But will happen, though, is a lot of people who rely on the mail for things like prescription medicine deliveries will be unamused by the slowdown.

    You are correct; it’s short sighted. But, we’ll see how it plays out.
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    Didn't Obama say to stop whining about election fraud before the election has even taken place?
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    Personally, I have been all for a complete removal of the USPS for years. It would be better off being privatized.

    This is one carrier's observation, for all we know the machine was removed because a new, better machine was being brought in.
    That would require a constitutional amendment though, so good luck with that.
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