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    It seems like every liberal I encounter on the internet is a part of some hive mind

    Like I no joke never see any libs on the internet these days that are pleasant to be around. They are always hyper aggressive towards anyone who isn't completely on their side at all times, the second you call them out they get on the attack. The thing is they all seem to work like a bunch of pissed off killer bees or some chit, like the second a lib faces conflict they all show up in support of each other doing everything they can to attack whoever it is that dared to question one of them. It's like some kind of phucked up cult.

    Gotta say, while it seems to make them feel empowered on the internet and gives them an excuse to high five each other it doesn't seem to be a winning strategy for winning anybody over. If anything they seem to routinely make enemies with everybody who isn't completely dedicated to their side. There is many reasons for this, hyper aggressiveness is definitely one of them, but their biggest problem is how they seem to really suck at debating people. It's like they are so used to revolving around their little circle jerks and hive minds that they have no concept of how to argue with anyone, they just do nothing besides attack and fall back on their usual bullchit. I don't really see the point of their chit besides trying to shutdown everyone who thinks differently from them.

    It's like these people clearly have zero interest in having any kind of conversation with people who are different from them, and they demonstrate a complete lack of tolerance for any contrary opinions. Total brick walls of people. All the while I have never seen people more overconfident in their opinion of themselves.
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    the only people who want to be friends with maga boys are other maga boys
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    Like I no joke never see any trumptards on the internet these days that are pleasant to be around. They are always hyper aggressive towards anyone who isn't completely on their side at all times, the second you call them out they get on the attack. The thing is they all seem to work like a bunch of pissed off killer bees or some chit, like the second a trumptard faces conflict they all show up in support of each other doing everything they can to attack whoever it is that dared to question one of them. It's like some kind of phucked up cult.

    Gotta say, while it seems to make them feel empowered on the internet and gives them an excuse to high five each other it doesn't seem to be a winning strategy for winning anybody over. If anything they seem to routinely make enemies with everybody who isn't completely dedicated to their side. There is many reasons for this, hyper aggressiveness is definitely one of them, but their biggest problem is how they seem to really suck at debating people. It's like they are so used to revolving around their little circle jerks and hive minds that they have no concept of how to argue with anyone, they just do nothing besides attack and fall back on their usual bullchit. I don't really see the point of their chit besides trying to shutdown everyone who thinks differently from them.

    It's like these people clearly have zero interest in having any kind of conversation with people who are different from them, and they demonstrate a complete lack of tolerance for any contrary opinions. Total brick walls of people. All the while I have never seen people more overconfident in their opinion of themselves.
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    Originally Posted by sandaltan View Post
    the only people who want to be friends with maga boys are other maga boys
    Thing is libs call everyone who disagrees with them a maga boy, and they simply group everyone with a contrary opinion from them together and do everything they can to attack them as much as possible. Like I said these people have no capability of winning anyone over, if you disagree with them you're their enemy and you will be labeled as their enemy and treated like one.
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    Originally Posted by jamesfrancis1 View Post
    Like I no joke never see any trumptards on the internet these days that are pleasant to be around. They are always hyper aggressive towards anyone who isn't completely on their side at all times, the second you call them out they get on the attack. The thing is they all seem to work like a bunch of pissed off killer bees or some chit, like the second a trumptard faces conflict they all show up in support of each other doing everything they can to attack whoever it is that dared to question one of them. It's like some kind of phucked up cult.

    Gotta say, while it seems to make them feel empowered on the internet and gives them an excuse to high five each other it doesn't seem to be a winning strategy for winning anybody over. If anything they seem to routinely make enemies with everybody who isn't completely dedicated to their side. There is many reasons for this, hyper aggressiveness is definitely one of them, but their biggest problem is how they seem to really suck at debating people. It's like they are so used to revolving around their little circle jerks and hive minds that they have no concept of how to argue with anyone, they just do nothing besides attack and fall back on their usual bullchit. I don't really see the point of their chit besides trying to shutdown everyone who thinks differently from them.

    It's like these people clearly have zero interest in having any kind of conversation with people who are different from them, and they demonstrate a complete lack of tolerance for any contrary opinions. Total brick walls of people. All the while I have never seen people more overconfident in their opinion of themselves.
    You people are so thick you can't even construct your own thoughts. Zero original thought coming from you, just nothing besides attack mode.
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    Thing is maga boys call everyone who disagrees with them a libtard and they simply group everyone with a contrary opinion from them together and do everything they can to attack them as much as possible. Like I said these people have no capability of winning anyone over, if you disagree with them you're their enemy and you will be labeled as their enemy and treated like one.
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    You people are so thick you can't even construct your own thoughts. Zero original thought coming from you, just nothing besides attack mode.
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    Originally Posted by jamesfrancis1 View Post
    Thing is maga boys call everyone who disagrees with them a libtard and they simply group everyone with a contrary opinion from them together and do everything they can to attack them as much as possible. Like I said these people have no capability of winning anyone over, if you disagree with them you're their enemy and you will be labeled as their enemy and treated like one.
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    Originally Posted by JayJ350 View Post
    It's like these people clearly have zero interest in having any kind of conversation with people who are different from them, and they demonstrate a complete lack of tolerance for any contrary opinions. Total brick walls of people. All the while I have never seen people more overconfident in their opinion of themselves.
    Be honest, everyone you interact with is like that, it's just that you notice the ones who disagree with your opinion more.
    When was the last time you got into an argument online with a conservative, Pro-Trumper, over their opinion being too conservative, or too Pro-Trump?
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    Originally Posted by dakensta View Post
    Be honest, everyone you interact with is like that, it's just that you notice the ones who disagree with your opinion more.
    When was the last time you got into an argument online with a conservative, Pro-Trumper, over their opinion being too conservative, or too Pro-Trump?
    That happens many times actually. It's a part of being centrist, the conservatives just happen to actually be far more engaging most of the time, and far more willing to actually debate things and have an actual discussion.
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    Originally Posted by JayJ350 View Post
    That happens many times actually. It's a part of being centrist, the conservatives just happen to actually be far more engaging most of the time, and far more willing to actually debate things and have an actual discussion.
    Well, all right then.
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    Originally Posted by JayJ350 View Post
    You people are so thick you can't even construct your own thoughts. Zero original thought coming from you, just nothing besides attack mode.
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    Originally Posted by dakensta View Post
    Well, all right then.
    Yeah I mean don't get me wrong I have met some real douchebags on the far right but on average it seems like there's a lot more moderate conservatives than moderate liberals, and the liberals are just far more aggressive.
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    Yeah I mean don't get me wrong I have met some real douchebags on the far right but on average it seems like there's a lot more moderate conservatives than moderate liberals, and the liberals are just far more aggressive.
    I believe you. You can understand why I was skeptical of your thread, what with the 2 dozen other "liberals are all evil and dumb" threads every day. Would rep, but on spread, if only for your reasonable response to my first post.
    Still, "every liberal", and "hive mind"?
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    Originally Posted by dakensta View Post
    I believe you. You can understand why I was skeptical of your thread, what with the 2 dozen other "liberals are all evil and dumb" threads every day. Would rep, but on spread, if only for your reasonable response to my first post.
    Still, "every liberal", and "hive mind"?
    Well that's just the way it feels man. Like I know how there's apparently a few reasonable people on the left out there, but they seem to be getting harder and harder to find. I just see a lot more extremism on the left these days, and the extremists are definitely far more common on the left as well. For every hardcore far right douche I encounter there's dozens of far left douches I encounter. Maybe it's just the internet, but the news seems to say otherwise.

    It's like the left has really become a radicalized platform in comparison to the right. Maybe that's because everyone moderate gets called a conservative these days, but I am just callin it how I see it.
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    You better get woke. Or else. XD
    Well that is basically how cancel culture operates these days.
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    Originally Posted by jamesfrancis1 View Post
    Like I no joke never see any trumptards on the internet these days that are pleasant to be around. They are always hyper aggressive towards anyone who isn't completely on their side at all times, the second you call them out they get on the attack. The thing is they all seem to work like a bunch of pissed off killer bees or some chit, like the second a trumptard faces conflict they all show up in support of each other doing everything they can to attack whoever it is that dared to question one of them. It's like some kind of phucked up cult.

    Gotta say, while it seems to make them feel empowered on the internet and gives them an excuse to high five each other it doesn't seem to be a winning strategy for winning anybody over. If anything they seem to routinely make enemies with everybody who isn't completely dedicated to their side. There is many reasons for this, hyper aggressiveness is definitely one of them, but their biggest problem is how they seem to really suck at debating people. It's like they are so used to revolving around their little circle jerks and hive minds that they have no concept of how to argue with anyone, they just do nothing besides attack and fall back on their usual bullchit. I don't really see the point of their chit besides trying to shutdown everyone who thinks differently from them.

    It's like these people clearly have zero interest in having any kind of conversation with people who are different from them, and they demonstrate a complete lack of tolerance for any contrary opinions. Total brick walls of people. All the while I have never seen people more overconfident in their opinion of themselves.
    No bro see you're doing it wrong.

    You need a preamble kinda like this...

    Then you can get into the real issue.

    Like I no joke never see any trumptards on the internet these days that are pleasant to be around. They are always hyper aggressive towards anyone who isn't completely on their side at all times, the second you call them out they get on the attack. The thing is they all seem to work like a bunch of pissed off killer bees or some chit, like the second a trumptard faces conflict they all show up in support of each other doing everything they can to attack whoever it is that dared to question one of them. It's like some kind of phucked up cult.

    Gotta say, while it seems to make them feel empowered on the internet and gives them an excuse to high five each other it doesn't seem to be a winning strategy for winning anybody over. If anything they seem to routinely make enemies with everybody who isn't completely dedicated to their side. There is many reasons for this, hyper aggressiveness is definitely one of them, but their biggest problem is how they seem to really suck at debating people. It's like they are so used to revolving around their little circle jerks and hive minds that they have no concept of how to argue with anyone, they just do nothing besides attack and fall back on their usual bullchit. I don't really see the point of their chit besides trying to shutdown everyone who thinks differently from them.

    It's like these people clearly have zero interest in having any kind of conversation with people who are different from them, and they demonstrate a complete lack of tolerance for any contrary opinions. Total brick walls of people. All the while I have never seen people more overconfident in their opinion of themselves.

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    Originally Posted by JayJ350 View Post
    It's like the left has really become a radicalized platform in comparison to the right. Maybe that's because everyone moderate gets called a conservative these days, but I am just callin it how I see it.
    Or maybe because anyone with some crazy ideas gets called a leftist these days? *shrug*
    There is definitely a move to make everyone "pick a side", and paint "the other side" as immoral idiots, that's for sure. I'm not buying it.
    I guess a lot of people aren't. But not enough people to make the left/right, dem/rep, blue/red dichotomy no longer useful to those it serves.
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    Or maybe because anyone with some crazy ideas gets called a leftist these days? *shrug*
    There is definitely a move to make everyone "pick a side", and paint "the other side" as immoral idiots, that's for sure. I'm not buying it.
    I guess a lot of people aren't. But not enough people to make the left/right, dem/rep, blue/red dichotomy no longer useful to those it serves.
    I think the fact of the matter is that all notions of a reasonable discussion are lost on the internet these days.
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    Leftists have no internal dialogue. That's why media propaganda works on them; whoever drills a message in to their mind the most frequently and strongly will prevail, because they have no thoughts of their own to offer resistance with. When they do engage in what they call "thinking," what they are actually doing is feeling, based on whatever emotional association they were trained to have in response to the given stimuli.

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    That's why they're called NPCs. Literally mindless, and the best example of why unrestricted Democracy is an awful idea.
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    Everyone is living in an echo chamber and to think otherwise is quite dumb. Twitter is a Far-Leftist echo chamber, Facebook is mainly dominated by Conservatives now, Discord is a Nazi echo chamber, the misc is a Maga echo chamber with a minority being anti-maga, college campuses are far-leftist owned, youtube is mainly a right winger echo chamber in which a few lefties exist, etc. That's the main issue nowadays, it's that people are all living in an echo chamber where they get their ego stroked and they become more radical. However, once you pull these people away from their echo chambers they become "civil" again. I have a BLM friend and I'm a conservative. When he's in a group setting or in a mob he's extremely toxic and relentless in his goals. But when you pull him aside and speak to him one on one or with a few neutral buddies, he's suddenly more civil and we can have an interesting conversation and guess what? We can actually agree on some issues. Such as Prison Reform (teaching criminals a skill instead of punishing them) and Police Reform (making the hiring process more thorough and giving police officers better training and care). We even agreed on how capitalism is inherently better and that teaching people to make money is 100% gonna lead to a better society.

    I'm a conservative but I don't limit myself to my echo chamber. I could sit on the misc all day and get my opinions validated but what good will that do? This is what I believe happened with the advent of social media platforms. People huddled like sheep and started barring entry to "foreigners" who didn't share their ideas. A lot of the so-called commies you meet are just folks who are in the heat of the mob and they might actually share some of your beliefs. The dangerous people are the leaders of these groups who manipulate people on both the right and left. People who preach white genocide and the anti-commie mantra are just as dangerous as the leaders who preach racism against white and the anti-conservatism mantra. Unless we can sit down and have a conversation with the other side, people are only gonna get more radical and as time passes one day one person will do the wrong thing at the wrong time and we're gonna be at each other throats.
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    Originally Posted by MirinCanadian99 View Post
    Everyone is living in an echo chamber and to think otherwise is quite dumb. Twitter is a Far-Leftist echo chamber, Facebook is mainly dominated by Conservatives now, Discord is a Nazi echo chamber, the misc is a Maga echo chamber with a minority being anti-maga, college campuses are far-leftist owned, youtube is mainly a right winger echo chamber in which a few lefties exist, etc. That's the main issue nowadays, it's that people are all living in an echo chamber where they get their ego stroked and they become more radical. However, once you pull these people away from their echo chambers they become "civil" again. I have a BLM friend and I'm a conservative. When he's in a group setting or in a mob he's extremely toxic and relentless in his goals. But when you pull him aside and speak to him one on one or with a few neutral buddies, he's suddenly more civil and we can have an interesting conversation and guess what? We can actually agree on some issues. Such as Prison Reform (teaching criminals a skill instead of punishing them) and Police Reform (making the hiring process more thorough and giving police officers better training and care). We even agreed on how capitalism is inherently better and that teaching people to make money is 100% gonna lead to a better society.

    I'm a conservative but I don't limit myself to my echo chamber. I could sit on the misc all day and get my opinions validated but what good will that do? This is what I believe happened with the advent of social media platforms. People huddled like sheep and started barring entry to "foreigners" who didn't share their ideas. A lot of the so-called commies you meet are just folks who are in the heat of the mob and they might actually share some of your beliefs. The dangerous people are the leaders of these groups who manipulate people on both the right and left. People who preach white genocide and the anti-commie mantra are just as dangerous as the leaders who preach racism against white and the anti-conservatism mantra. Unless we can sit down and have a conversation with the other side, people are only gonna get more radical and as time passes one day one person will do the wrong thing at the wrong time and we're gonna be at each other throats.
    Yup, apparently most people are just sheep being led to slaughter. Social media has basically become one big slaughter house in a sense, an easy way to get everyone together and implement thought control. We have this thinly veiled illusion of having free speech and free thinking on the internet but the reality is that we are so limited in our avenues that we fall victim to group think and whoever is in control of the media outlet is essentially in control how how everyone thinks and the type of thoughts that are allowed.
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    Originally Posted by MirinCanadian99 View Post
    Everyone is living in an echo chamber and to think otherwise is quite dumb. Twitter is a Far-Leftist echo chamber, Facebook is mainly dominated by Conservatives now, Discord is a Nazi echo chamber, the misc is a Maga echo chamber with a minority being anti-maga, college campuses are far-leftist owned, youtube is mainly a right winger echo chamber in which a few lefties exist, etc. That's the main issue nowadays, it's that people are all living in an echo chamber where they get their ego stroked and they become more radical. However, once you pull these people away from their echo chambers they become "civil" again. I have a BLM friend and I'm a conservative. When he's in a group setting or in a mob he's extremely toxic and relentless in his goals. But when you pull him aside and speak to him one on one or with a few neutral buddies, he's suddenly more civil and we can have an interesting conversation and guess what? We can actually agree on some issues. Such as Prison Reform (teaching criminals a skill instead of punishing them) and Police Reform (making the hiring process more thorough and giving police officers better training and care). We even agreed on how capitalism is inherently better and that teaching people to make money is 100% gonna lead to a better society.

    I'm a conservative but I don't limit myself to my echo chamber. I could sit on the misc all day and get my opinions validated but what good will that do? This is what I believe happened with the advent of social media platforms. People huddled like sheep and started barring entry to "foreigners" who didn't share their ideas. A lot of the so-called commies you meet are just folks who are in the heat of the mob and they might actually share some of your beliefs. The dangerous people are the leaders of these groups who manipulate people on both the right and left. People who preach white genocide and the anti-commie mantra are just as dangerous as the leaders who preach racism against white and the anti-conservatism mantra. Unless we can sit down and have a conversation with the other side, people are only gonna get more radical and as time passes one day one person will do the wrong thing at the wrong time and we're gonna be at each other throats.
    Yeah sorry but no. It sounds like you're a good guy who's coming from a good place, so don't take this as me sh*tting on you, but centrism/argument to moderation is cringe. Centrists change along with the rest of the Overton window, yet still claim that everyone needs to meet in the middle. This is because their primary concern is pacifism and the avoidance of conflict. They do not seek to move in a certain direction, just decelerate. The issue with this is that only Conservatives are receptive to this message - hence why you have Republicans rejecting identity politics and using political force against enemies, while the Left rejects it. This is a losing strategy. Moderation is overrated, there are groups of people that will never get along in society and we cannot thrive while this divided by our differences. Picking a side is underrated, and Conservatives should take advantage of power when they have it to move the country further right in a legislative direction, and actually do sh*t like send the leadership of Antifa to blacksite prisons where they can be tortured to death.

    Btw, what people say online is indicative of what they actually feel believe. Whatever they say in real life is a mask they wear to be liked and avoid conflict. If someone online says they want you dead, they do. And if their side gains complete control, they will see to it.
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    Originally Posted by RagnarChadbrok View Post
    Yeah sorry but no. It sounds like you're a good guy who's coming from a good place, so don't take this as me sh*tting on you, but centrism/argument to moderation is cringe. Centrists change along with the rest of the Overton window, yet still claim that everyone needs to meet in the middle. This is because their primary concern is pacifism and the avoidance of conflict. They do not seek to move in a certain direction, just decelerate. The issue with this is that only Conservatives are receptive to this message - hence why you have Republicans rejecting identity politics and using political force against enemies, while the Left rejects it. This is a losing strategy. Moderation is overrated, there are groups of people that will never get along in society and we cannot thrive while this divided by our differences. Picking a side is underrated, and Conservatives should take advantage of power when they have it to move the country further right in a legislative direction, and actually do sh*t like send the leadership of Antifa to blacksite prisons where they can be tortured to death.

    Btw, what people say online is indicative of what they actually feel believe. Whatever they say in real life is a mask they wear to be liked and avoid conflict. If someone online says they want you dead, they do. And if their side gains complete control, they will see to it.
    I understand that you think "Force" or "Violence" is the answer but all you're doing is giving yourself a false sense of security and radicalizing people even more. This is why dictatorships eventually fall and this is why sending off so-called Antifa thugs to blacksite prisons will only create more antifa thugs for you to deal with. People are not drawn to Antifa as it is and they make up less than 0.10% of the US population. I'm talking about actual Antifa thugs and the proportion of that number of antifa thugs that will physically harm you is even lower. You should instead invite these people to talks and have their concerns heard. When the far-right youtubers were kicked off of youtube due to their content, a lot of them fled to discord and now it's a nazi echo chamber where if you disagree with anything they say you get harassed and kicked from the chat. The Left's attempt at silencing the nazies made them swell in numbers and made into a so-called martyr. You can either sit down and discuss or you can resolve an issue with the barrel of a gun.

    Historically we've seen peace always prevail because above anything we want peace and security. Martin Luther King only got his message across because he took the beatings, he took the dogs biting him, and he never once rose his hand to attack police officers. And this won over the nation. You should always seek moderation and discussion because if you don't, you end up with people fleeing to their echo chambers and becoming more radical.

    Also someone saying they wanna kill you online is not reality. Do you think someone on twitter will grab you and shoot you in cold blood? Not really. Once again you're letting the media mold your vision of reality. They make money when people like you panic and getting riled into a frenzy. CNN does it and so does FOX News. They rile up their fans into thinking a minor event is reality.
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    Originally Posted by JayJ350 View Post
    Yup, apparently most people are just sheep being led to slaughter. Social media has basically become one big slaughter house in a sense, an easy way to get everyone together and implement thought control. We have this thinly veiled illusion of having free speech and free thinking on the internet but the reality is that we are so limited in our avenues that we fall victim to group think and whoever is in control of the media outlet is essentially in control how how everyone thinks and the type of thoughts that are allowed.
    Free speech is only effective when you're discussing with people of other backgrounds and political alignment. A communist talking to another communist on twitter is not free speech. But a communist talking to a republican is in my honest opinion the true free speech.

    Social Media and the Media in general is toxic in my honest opinion. It takes things and blows them outta proportion and once a mob is formed all bets are on. People who you would say hi to in the morning are now in a mob looting and burning, people that you saw at starbucks getting coffee are now outside breaking into stores, people that you saw at school are now turning cars over in the name of peace, and people who you called friends are now clashing with police and blinding officers with lasers. The whole george floyd rioting could have been avoided if social media and news outlets didn't blow it outta proportion and ran headlines for days and weeks. Resorting to our animal instincts is a sure fine way of dooming ourselves to destruction.
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