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    Originally Posted by Jhamaican View Post

    Trump does it for the love of the country
    Trump loves the country so much that he doesn't give a fuk about a virus that killed 170k and infected millions

    "it is what it is"
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    Rumors are the Tulsi will be speaking at the GOP convention....the stars are aligned. Wincel full MAGA now.
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    Originally Posted by jlick View Post
    Rumors are the Tulsi will be speaking at the GOP convention....the stars are aligned. Wincel full MAGA now.
    Dude if Trump promises her a spot in his administration, like Secretary of State, I'm full MAGA. Maybe we'd actually get something done and be able to defuse a lot of this tension and conflict.
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    Dude if Trump promises her a spot in his administration, like Secretary of State, I'm full MAGA. Maybe we'd actually get something done and be able to defuse a lot of this tension and conflict.
    tulsi endorsed biden
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    Dude if Trump promises her a spot in his administration, like Secretary of State, I'm full MAGA. Maybe we'd actually get something done and be able to defuse a lot of this tension and conflict.
    She won't be SOS but I could see her taking a high position in in the DOD. I like the fact that she's not a war mongerer.
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    Originally Posted by Lefticle View Post
    She also prosecuted innocent people who didn’t break they law then blocked DNA evidence that proved their innocence from being admissible in court. All so she could keep innocent people in prison for free labor.

    She is a psychopathic demon.

    All true but the "free labor" part IMO. Bitch was worried about her prosecution record.
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    Originally Posted by KT667 View Post
    tulsi endorsed biden
    I don't see any reporting on this.....
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    Originally Posted by KT667 View Post
    tulsi endorsed biden
    Yeah. And I pledged to vote for Biden too. But after seeing his VP pick...

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    I don't see any reporting on this.....
    She endorsed him when she dropped out of the race.
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    My issue with Trump is his hostility toward science. He thinks he knows better than experts and has made some incredibly ridiculous comments and policy decisions. I will always hate him and view him as unfit to lead. The question is if Kamala is worse. Trump hasn't fixed things is the issue. I can admire him trying. But he hasn't. He screwed up a nuclear agreement we had with Iran, and pulled us out of various strategic agreements we had with Russia and China. He has escalated tensions with China. He has weakened NATO and reduced support for international organizations. He has alienated many of our European allies. He is very against internationalism. He has made irresponsible comments about climate change and epidemiology. I am extremely pro internationalism. I am a globalist. The only thing I really like about Trump besides his hilarious personality is the fact that he has not started another war and has been hesitant to commit US forces. But he has also been irresponsible, particularly in the killing of Qassem Soleimani, which almost initiated a war with Iran. My main goal is to promote international stability and peace. I have seen that most of the US' attempts at nation building have failed miserably. Many of our problems are due to our attempts to change the rest of the world. Had we kept to ourselves, we would have avoided these conflicts. If we want to be an empire, then we should claim the land and integrate the people as Americans and help run the countries. Otherwise, we should stop this pseudoimperialism where we don't even help govern things after conquering and wrecking everything. The goal ought to be the minimization of harm. We ought to avoid nuclear war. We ought to collaborate for the betterment of mankind.




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    Originally Posted by Dorich View Post
    LMAO since when are you on the MAGA train? Did I miss something?
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    We welcome you with open arms brah. Repped.
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    WestAfrica is MAGA now?

    Holy phuck
    Well I wouldn't use the term MAGA. I don't vote Dem and I still don't like Trump but what can you do.
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    Originally Posted by WestAfrica View Post
    Well I wouldn't use the term MAGA. I don't vote Dem and I still don't like Trump but what can you do.
    Vote Jo I suppose
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    Originally Posted by ~Hades~ View Post
    This.

    We always have room for more maga converts even if they were phaggots before.

    He’s still a loser but he can be welcomed aboard.
    No chit, son, that's a prerequisite to becoming a maga phaga bro.
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    Welcome aboard, MAGAcel. Let the testosterone flow through you.

    West Africa, I could actually see him on the MAGA train at some point. Dude is pretty chill and reasonable. Definitely not a psychotic nut bag like RAPEYPat, sandaltan, weightaholic, or funkymunker. I purposefully exclude z4v4 as I find him somewhat endearing, son. And Sillie, Sillie who?
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    Originally Posted by Jhamaican View Post
    This is an accurate assessment.

    Trump is losing significant money by becoming and doing a great job as president.

    Other politicians, corrupt politicians, such as Obama and Clintons, went into the white house broke and came out rich.

    That should tell you something.

    Trump does it for the love of the country and his ego.
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    My issue with Trump is his hostility toward science. He thinks he knows better than experts and has made some incredibly ridiculous comments and policy decisions. I will always hate him and view him as unfit to lead. The question is if Kamala is worse. Trump hasn't fixed things is the issue. I can admire him trying. But he hasn't. He screwed up a nuclear agreement we had with Iran, and pulled us out of various strategic agreements we had with Russia and China. He has escalated tensions with China. He has weakened NATO and reduced support for international organizations. He has alienated many of our European allies. He is very against internationalism. He has made irresponsible comments about climate change and epidemiology. I am extremely pro internationalism. I am a globalist. The only thing I really like about Trump besides his hilarious personality is the fact that he has not started another war and has been hesitant to commit US forces. But he has also been irresponsible, particularly in the killing of Qassem Soleimani, which almost initiated a war with Iran. My main goal is to promote international stability and peace. I have seen that most of the US' attempts at nation building have failed miserably. Many of our problems are due to our attempts to change the rest of the world. Had we kept to ourselves, we would have avoided these conflicts. If we want to be an empire, then we should claim the land and integrate the people as Americans and help run the countries. Otherwise, we should stop this pseudoimperialism where we don't even help govern things after conquering and wrecking everything. The goal ought to be the minimization of harm. We ought to avoid nuclear war. We ought to collaborate for the betterment of mankind.

    I am not sure what "anti science" even means and believe it to be a made up criticism. I do agree he does not operate on fact, but he is a politician. Andrew yang and guys like that are not leaders of humans. I have the impression he gets briefed about something like the IR blood and lung cleaners, makes a comment to the press, and they twist it into him telling people to drink bleach.

    That and the fishbowl cleaner BS.

    I am not sure where you are coming from on all the international stuff, but it is the complete opposite of what I have seen. I also do not know how you come up with him being the one trying to push US influence overseas. I see him talking about trade deals, I do not see how you can blame our country being sold off for corporate profits and influence on him. He is the one trying to pull out of all these influence organisations.

    Remember when the Democrats, Republicans, and media were trying to get him to fight the Russians in Syria? Or that one time he leveraged Dennis rodman to help bring the Korea's closer?

    Meanwhile all you have to do is read "The Grand Chessboard" to get the game plan of every president since the late 90's. Even general Wesley Clark commented on how fixated they were in toppling the countries that were either bombed or "had revolutions". Hillary and Victoria Nuland were all over this also. If you want a copy PM me.

    You may want to review your opinions on these topics since it pretty much follows the mainstream media perspective which should tell you something.

    You are still dogmatic, but hopefully this cognitive dissonance you are going through helps open your eyes to a different view on things.
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    What I mean by antiscience is rejecting the work of thousands of atmospheric physicists and empirical data we have on climate change or rejecting the results of randomized controlled trials on hydroxychloroquine. There's really no going around the fact that Trump is antiscientific and antiintellectual. His movement is a populist movement that resonates with the uneducated of the country.

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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    What I mean by antiscience is rejecting the work of thousands of atmospheric physicists and empirical data we have on climate change or rejecting the results of randomized controlled trials on hydroxychloroquine. There's really no going around the fact that Trump is antiscientific and antiintellectual. His movement is a populist movement that resonates with the uneducated of the country.

    To put it bluntly, Donald Trump is an idiot. But you know, that doesn't mean he is wrong about everything. I can appreciate this new peace deal, and he has not started a war. He has some redeeming qualities, but I do view him overall very negatively. I'd even argue he is a threat to national security. I just happen to hate Kamala Harris as well.
    I would argue you are rejecting the work of the thousands of atmospheric physicists that reject global warming and you are now anti science. I also think actual climate change (things like Ice ages) is real and that we should take care of the environment and the other forms of life on the planet. I do not see how giving money to all these bull**** groups and letting traders make money off carbon credits helps. I see it as another Davos scam that everyone with several mansions and yachts off Amalfi and Nice play around with. Come up with some good ideas on how to fix things and most reasonable people will agree. Try to force **** down their throat with a fourteen year old Swedish girl because scientists have a "consensus" and people argue back. How well has the Corona modeling worked? These data models are bad news. Sure they help come up with possible extremes, but calling someone anti science for not buying this is just name calling.

    Regarding hydroxychloroquine, do you mean these trials?

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...180-6/fulltext

    More info:

    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ld-this-happen

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020...-be-unraveling

    How is it the side that thinks it may have benefits is anti science in this case? I was under the belief that science questions until it can be proven.


    Back to Trump, I believe he is a showman. I bet he is very likable in person, but not really the type of person I would want to associate with. You cannot pull off what he did against the odds he did it without being intelligent and having good people skills (manipulative yes). I believe hearing about him being around some very powerful influences at a young age. I believe one was a famous pastor, but not a name I remember (different generation). He also appears to be a workaholic with good health and stamina (you cannot just develop this). I cannot believe I actually have to say this because I thought it was just assumed with everyone about everyone, but I do not agree with everything he says or does. Has he said stupid things, yes. Has he done stupid things, yes. The only difference is he is treated differently than everyone else about it. Just look at the difference between him and Biden. Take a look at the Time magazine covers for him and Obama.

    No matter who they put in that office it would be silly to think they are perfect. I am just disappointed with the choices the bankers and pharma companies give us in a normal election year.
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    Originally Posted by FingerFood View Post
    I would argue you are rejecting the work of the thousands of atmospheric physicists that reject global warming and you are now anti science. I also think actual climate change (things like Ice ages) is real and that we should take care of the environment and the other forms of life on the planet. I do not see how giving money to all these bull**** groups and letting traders make money off carbon credits helps. I see it as another Davos scam that everyone with several mansions and yachts off Amalfi and Nice play around with. Come up with some good ideas on how to fix things and most reasonable people will agree. Try to force **** down their throat with a fourteen year old Swedish girl because scientists have a "consensus" and people argue back. How well has the Corona modeling worked? These data models are bad news. Sure they help come up with possible extremes, but calling someone anti science for not buying this is just name calling.

    Regarding hydroxychloroquine, do you mean these trials?

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...180-6/fulltext

    More info:

    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ld-this-happen

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020...-be-unraveling

    How is it the side that thinks it may have benefits is anti science in this case? I was under the belief that science questions until it can be proven.


    Back to Trump, I believe he is a showman. I bet he is very likable in person, but not really the type of person I would want to associate with. You cannot pull off what he did against the odds he did it without being intelligent and having good people skills (manipulative yes). I believe hearing about him being around some very powerful influences at a young age. I believe one was a famous pastor, but not a name I remember (different generation). He also appears to be a workaholic with good health and stamina (you cannot just develop this). I cannot believe I actually have to say this because I thought it was just assumed with everyone about everyone, but I do not agree with everything he says or does. Has he said stupid things, yes. Has he done stupid things, yes. The only difference is he is treated differently than everyone else about it. Just look at the difference between him and Biden. Take a look at the Time magazine covers for him and Obama.

    No matter who they put in that office it would be silly to think they are perfect. I am just disappointed with the choices the bankers and pharma companies give us in a normal election year.
    There are not thousands of atmospheric physicists who reject climate change. It is pretty obvious it is happening and that human activity is the main forcing term.

    No, I do not mean that trial. That trial was not a randomized controlled trial. The thing you linked was a multinational registry analysis. I mean the 4 randomized controlled trials that were done.

    Stop trying to comment on scientific matters if you are a lay person.
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    There are not thousands of atmospheric physicists who reject climate change. It is pretty obvious it is happening and that human activity is the main forcing term.

    No, I do not mean that trial. That trial was not a randomized controlled trial. The thing you linked was a multinational registry analysis. I mean the 4 randomized controlled trials that were done.

    Stop trying to comment on scientific matters if you are a lay person.
    Do you have any links to the studies that show them using it with zinc on people that are not already dead?

    edit, quick Google search gave me this for the top part:

    https://electroverse.net/the-list-sc...limate-change/

    Keep in mind publicly stating this is saying you no longer want research money. There is a financial incentive to go along with it along with not being ridiculed.
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    Originally Posted by FingerFood View Post
    Do you have any links to the studies that show them using it with zinc on people that are not already dead?

    edit, quick Google search gave me this for the top part:

    https://electroverse.net/the-list-sc...limate-change/

    Keep in mind publicly stating this is saying you no longer want research money. There is a financial incentive to go along with it along with not being ridiculed.
    Did you read the list? Look at the vocations of those scientists. Tons affiliated with fossil fuel industry. They are almost all nonexperts. The few that are experts in atmospheric physics are a tiny minority. You can look at any number of global studies on this. You can look at the NOAA's extensive research on this. You can go to your local university and ask anyone working in atmospheric physics or chemistry or meteorology about this. Just because a powerful company like Exxon paid some people and others fear for their livelihoods doesn't change the reality of the science.

    The average person gets plenty of zinc. Any company could fund a RCT of HCQ. They won't because it's a waste of time and money. There are better drugs. If HCQ worked, a company would do a RCT, show it worked and quickly roll in the profits. Very simple. It doesn't work.
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    Regarding discrediting the scientists, you can do it both ways. I still do not understand how not agreeing with climate change is "anti science" since it is not proven with science, but by which side you are on. Regardless I do not have strong feelings either way. Even if there was no climate change I am more than happy to reduce the damage done to the climate. CO2 just does not appear at the top of my list. I find it interesting that all these European countries that are so pro climate change were the ones driving around emitting toxic diesel fumes at a government tax discount.

    I also question the idiot women that cut their hair short to reduce energy blow drying it (yes they exist), or time how long they are in the shower when they fail to call out countries like China for what they are doing. Stop buying things from people that are destroying the environment and skip all your "traveling for self actualization". Cutting your hair is going to do jack ****.

    Whether or not the drug works it is not anti science to believe it could be promising. Anti science is shutting it down and halting all trials over political and monetary reasoning. Do you have any idea how many billions of dollars are at stake for the pharma companies?

    At the moment it also sounds like getting enough vitamin D helps also.

    I know you are not going to listen to this, but maybe someone else might be interested.

    21 minutes in they start talking about it:

    YouTube posted on Aug 6th, I think this URL is preventing me from posting
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    Are both these men anti science?
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