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    Blizzard Employees Compare Wages; Have Wage Revolt

    Blizzard Entertainment staff are revolting over pay, after an internal study meant to ensure fair pay didn't produce the desired results for workers. According to a Bloomberg report, employees began sharing an anonymous salary spreadsheet on Friday, encouraging people to share their salary and recent pay increases.

    Most of the pay increases given after Blizzard's study were less than 10%, which Bloomberg reports is significantly less than most people expected. Employees at Blizzard Entertainment have previously described having to skip meals to make rent, while one veteran claims they are making less now than they were with Blizzard almost a decade ago.

    One person added CEO Bobby Kotick's salary and compensation package to the anonymous spreadsheet to contrast other listed salaries. Kotick is one of the highest paid executives in the entertainment media industry, with his compensation last year topping $30 million.

    "Our goal has always been to ensure we compensate our employees fairly and competitively," an Activision Blizzard spokesperson told Bloomberg. "We are constantly reviewing compensation philosophies to better recognize the talent of our highest performers and keep us competitive in the industry, all with the aim of rewarding and investing more in top employees."
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    Don't worry, we'll just figure out a way to milk washed up World of Warcraft some more and get you guys all the raise you expected. Lmfaoo
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    They ruined Blizzard games, fuk em

    Year 2020 and their wow servers still lag as if it was back in 2004
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    Ignoring the obvious logical faults in salary comparisons; fuk blizzard.
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    Kotick deserves minimum wage for the chit job he has done. Ran everything into the ground.

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    Blizzard - A strong example of a video game making company with revolutionary products in the 90's / early 2000's, having an astounding start and a promising future, only to fall harshly on itself with its transition into developing games for long-term profit as the highest priority, rather than revolutionary gameplay in itself, and its attempts to live on its historic victories, rather than pursuing a creative future. Reminds me of Bethesda at this point.

    Their last released game was Overwatch in 2016. Their projected games are Diablo Immortal, Overwatch 2 and Diablo 4 (in that order). The former 2 projects I don't give a chit about (Immortal is a mobile game, Overwatch will be an obvious rehash of the previous). The latter project Diablo 4 has some potential, but with how Diablo 3 flopped in numerous ways it has equally as much chance to fail as it does to succeed.

    EDIT: Funny how they haven't released a new product within the last 4 years (aside from their re-release of the old project WoW Classic), however historically they released Diablo 1 in 97, Starcraft 1 in 98, and Diablo 2 in 00.
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    Look at that greasy ugly goblin.

    What I don't understand though is how nobody from Blizzard who is passionate about actually creating a good game hasn't icepicked that **** or at the very least ****ed with him
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    lol, diablo IV aint comin out till 2030

    blizzard is a dumpster fire of an organization that clearly gives no chits about its employees
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    Blizzard was on top of the world.

    Then they were bought out by one of the worst game companies in the world that was on the verge of bankruptcy because their products just plain suck.

    Kotick only bought Blizzard for its revenues and has just decimated the name and pushed out all the talent.
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    publishers are the most greediest ****s out there

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    What's hilarious is Kotick is considered successful from a business/stockholder perspective so when blizzard eventually does die (by die i mean turn into your typical EA microtransaction riddled company [likely in the next few years as their next projects are realized and are all trash free to play junk]), he'l be absolved of any blame
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    So...all employees in companies at given ranks have to be paid equally, now?
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    As someone who was told numerous times that what I had loved from them wasn't fun, and that their new products no one asked for are great.. I can't say that it doesn't please me to watch them burn. Took everything that made them good, walked away and went in the direction of greed and ignoring the consumer.

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    The greatest gaming company in a generation destroyed by shoddy next-quarter-is-all-that-matters syndrome.

    Sad to see but Blizz has been dead for years. The open viewing of the casket was blizzcon 2018 diablo immortal and their subsequent actions.

    Shareholders will figure it out in the next 5-10 years and customers loyal to the brand will last about that long due to denial but the company and everything that once made it great is dead.
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    Blizzard hasn’t made anything good since Warcraft 3.

    WOW was a horrendous MMO. Took everything fun from games like UO and EQ and eliminated it
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    Originally Posted by Aristotelian View Post
    So...all employees in companies at given ranks have to be paid equally, now?
    No, but salary brackets should be a thing. I'd heard that blizzard paid chit but the numbers on that spreadsheet are terrible, especially since they apparently pay horrible bonuses now too.

    Those wages would be barely acceptable in Texas much less the OC. Obviously people need to learn to negotiate but seniors being on less than 100k is ridiculous.
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    Look at that greasy ugly goblin.

    What I don't understand though is how nobody from Blizzard who is passionate about actually creating a good game hasn't icepicked that **** or at the very least ****ed with him
    Seeing stuff about this guy first time today

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    Originally Posted by ChristmasFnatic View Post
    Most of the pay increases given after Blizzard's study were less than 10%, which Bloomberg reports is significantly less than most people expected. Employees at Blizzard Entertainment have previously described having to skip meals to make rent, while one veteran claims they are making less now than they were with Blizzard almost a decade ago.
    - Wanted bigger raises and didn't get them so they complained.
    - Live above their means
    - Veteran takes apparent pay cut yet still stays with the company for 10 years.

    I see the snowflakes have taken over at Blizzard. If you don't like your job, work somewhere else.
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    Originally Posted by Halfway View Post
    No, but salary brackets should be a thing. I'd heard that blizzard paid chit but the numbers on that spreadsheet are terrible, especially since they apparently pay horrible bonuses now too.

    Those wages would be barely acceptable in Texas much less the OC. Obviously people need to learn to negotiate but seniors being on less than 100k is ridiculous.
    Who are you, seriously, to tell a company how much they ought to pay their employees? Am I one of the few who still believes in some semblance of a free market? If these people are so talented, they can find employment elsewhere. Then maybe Blizzard would have to up their salaries to recruit better people, in turn. Or, in a nutshell:

    Originally Posted by ko300zx View Post
    - Wanted bigger raises and didn't get them so they complained.
    - Live above their means
    - Veteran takes apparent pay cut yet still stays with the company for 10 years.

    I see the snowflakes have taken over at Blizzard. If you don't like your job, work somewhere else.
    Maybe they will get raises the next time they put out a good game. A "performance incentive", if you will.

    LOL.
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    Don't worry, we'll just figure out a way to milk washed up World of Warcraft some more and get you guys all the raise you expected. Lmfaoo
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    Everyone knows that if you want to make money you don't go to work as a game developer.
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    This would happen in companies everywhere if it all came out.

    I believe all salaries should be open info within companies, and its only a problem if there's a big discrepancy somewhere which shouldnt exist
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    Originally Posted by ko300zx View Post
    - Wanted bigger raises and didn't get them so they complained.
    - Live above their means
    - Veteran takes apparent pay cut yet still stays with the company for 10 years.

    I see the snowflakes have taken over at Blizzard. If you don't like your job, work somewhere else.
    At some point its a problem with work culture dude. This stuff happens everywhere. I do agree if more people were willing to leave for better deals(like I do), companies would have no choice but to get their s*it together. But game development is a niche where they can take advantage of people really wanting to do it.

    From my experience, if you want a big raise, jump ship and find someone who needs you more and will pay up.
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    So here's why Activision is doing what Activision is doing.

    All the money these days is in loot crates and DLC. You can spend $100M developing a $60 AAA game, take a 30% bath selling it through retailers and distributors, and hope to sell 2M copies just to break even. Or, you can pay $1M to animate a bunch of skins and emotes, pack them in a game you already own and split with no one, and sell them in loot boxes for $5 a pop. LOT easier path to profitability on the second one, so that's what companies are going for. EA made $1B in a fukking QUARTER just on FIFA lootboxes.

    As far as low wages - there's always going to be a limitless pile of 22yo graduates willing to take any wage to work in video games, so supply and demand is on the employer's side. But it's not exactly groundbreaking Harvard Business School theory that overworking and underpaying people leads to turnover. You can bring those workers in at 22 years old, but they won't be there at 30. The coder guy's going to figure out that he can make 50% more per hour working a 9 to 5 doing database chit for his local hospital. The QA guy making minimum wage is going to realize he can't afford to live in Irvine once he's off his parent's insurance and is going to quit and move to Phoenix. It'd be fun to see what Blizzard's annual turnover is like.

    For a company in the business of selling skins and emotes, cheap low-skill labor is what you want. It doesn't take 20 years of experience to draw a new spray to pack in a lootbox - you can get that done by churning n burning through entry level artists. But long term, that expertise you want to tackle ambitious new projects is going to be fukking gone. You want someone to design and program and animate new worlds - have fun doing that with a team of juniors.

    So Blizzard isn't doing that. They're making their new games as simple, cheap and conservative as possible - Overwatch 2 is basically an expansion pack for Overwatch 1, Diablo Immortal is a handheld version of Diablo, Heartstone's a chit cheap mobile card game - and turning them into lootbox delivery systems. Gets you straight to the real profits and allows you to cut your labor to the bone. But over the long term, you're not making any new IP. If Diablo 4 chits the bed for example, that will probably be the end of the Diablo franchise on PC - then what are you going to replace it with? AFAIK, they've got nothing in the pipeline to replace that cash cow once it gets milked out.

    90 day short-term focused management doesn't give a fuk about it as long as they keep hitting their bonuses, but over the long term, it's corrosive to your company.
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