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    Why invest so much in military?

    What does it make someone? A glorified future killer? Or what will a country do? Invade, fight, kill, destroy homes and buildings, half of the time they lose wars. Really its all nothing. I hope for a military free world someday.
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    start at 0:38 to know why

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    The problem with liberals like you is you're so short sighted you can't see the big picture. Most of the jobs in the military aren't combat related. Someone could join the military, and learn a skill like IT, HVAC, electrician, etc. and they will get paid for it while they're in training. There's nothing like that in the private sector. If you go to school for a trade, you will have to pay for it out of your own pocket, and then how are you going to pay your bills? The military is the only place where you can earn a full time income while learning a trade/skill.
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    If you like killing brown babies and making wealthy men even more wealthier..... then the military is for you.....
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    The USA has terrorist all over the world trying to over throw legitimate governments, they have for decades.The USA is the biggest terrorist threat in the world.

    Look at the multiple terrorist attacks on Iranian soil. It was an US based organization called Tondar...
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    as a man you were created by god to fight and conquer other men, that is what your existence boils down to, everything you do in life is a form of dominance projection over other men, why do you lift weights? to elevate yourself above other men, this is dominance projection, why do you always strive to make more money despite studies always showing diminshing returns on happines past a certain threshold? because it's in your biology to want to dominate other men regardless, military is the ultimate and raw display of dominance projection, you are a failure of the male biology if you don't support it's existence
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    Well in the case of US the military is needed to enforce oil producing nations in using the Petrodollar which keeps our economy propped up and allows the US to endlessly borrow money from other countries with no intention to pay it back.
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    obviously it could be done far more efficiently, at a fraction of the cost and we'd be more safe

    our military doesn't even defend our borders

    it's a complete joke
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    I also hope for a military free world.

    I accept that it won’t happen, for many reasons.

    It isn’t by any means an evil “killer” producer or anything. That is a gross misrepresentation. In many aspects it is great for countries to have.

    However, you are correct in the primary intention of a military being killing people and destroying things. For that reason, I wish it was unnecessary. But it isn’t.
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    Showing the world that you have advanced weaponry and capability is probably the greatest deterrent to war. Look at the Cold War for example and the theory of MAD. You don't attack someone who could destroy you, so therefore you behave.

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    Originally Posted by mingrey02stg2 View Post
    Showing the world that you have advanced weaponry and capability is probably the greatest deterrent to war. Look at the Cold War for example and the theory of MAD. You don't attack someone who could destroy you, so therefore you behave.

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    It's an entire industry. I drove by Lockheed's multi-billion dollar facility the other day. Hole-e-fukk finally found out where all our taxes are going. Also interviewed at Raytheon finance years ago, same deal. The entire purpose of the spending 10x the next highest spender is to redistribute tax money to the military industrial complex.

    China could destroy the entire US in 2 weeks if all they did was close the ports. That would be it for us. They could also use bioweapons or EMP the chit out of our power grid as Plan B. They give absolutely zero fukks about a bunch of aircraft carriers loaded with tactically useless F35's.
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    Peace through superior firepower. You know why the US hasn't been attacked by another military since WWII? All this crap talked by China and Iran, ect, The reason they don't attack us isn't because they are peaceful or out of the goodness of their hearts. They don't attack us because they know it will go very badly for them. If they thought they could win, they would.

    So, it's not about how we can afford it, but how we can't afford it.

    There is a return investment with the technology that comes from it, plus the training of people. The only problem I have with our military spending is the defense of other nations, such as Europe.
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    All from stolen resources.

    Wut, you think them American'ts are smarter than the East Asians? Hell no.

    Again, this is why im kicking out all the US military bases in the East once I rise to power.
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    Originally Posted by mingrey02stg2 View Post
    Showing the world that you have advanced weaponry and capability is probably the greatest deterrent to war. Look at the Cold War for example and the theory of MAD. You don't attack someone who could destroy you, so therefore you behave.
    Fighting a "conventional war" in this century would be like the guys who showed up with muskets for WWI and got ventilated by machine guns last century.

    All future wars between super powers will be fought using economics without firing a single bullet or missile. We can no longer survive without complex international supply chains and 24/7 just in time access to resources. China started a couple decades ago. No need for nukes when you can bankrupt your enemy and buy up all their property at a garage sale.
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    The problem with liberals like you is you're so short sighted you can't see the big picture. Most of the jobs in the military aren't combat related. Someone could join the military, and learn a skill like IT, HVAC, electrician, etc. and they will get paid for it while they're in training. There's nothing like that in the private sector. If you go to school for a trade, you will have to pay for it out of your own pocket, and then how are you going to pay your bills? The military is the only place where you can earn a full time income while learning a trade/skill.
    OK so make a job corps and remove it from the military. There is a great danger in building a powerful weapon because there is a temptation to use it. The US military is seen as a tool for "solutions" to diplomatic problems. Too many politicians who never served a second in battle use phrases like "military solution" while dressed in their $5000 suits, sitting around fancy tables eating $300 dinners, and they send young men to die. It's disgusting. These people should be beheaded and fed to dogs, torn to shreds the way they carelessly discard other lives. They are roaches. These types of insects are the enemies of mankind. It is not a single nation. You find these men in the backrooms of every government, whispering in peoples' ears, compelling them to destroy peace. Men like John Bolton. These men are the scum of this world.
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    If you like killing brown babies and making wealthy men even more wealthier..... then the military is for you.....
    So I killed zero brown babies in the military. Libs like you spoil any chance of legitimately criticizing the military lol. All credibility btfo. A shame really, because there are legitimate criticisms. Gonna go ahead and neg train you not because you’re anti military but because you’re a disingenuous piece of **** human that spoils the water for a legitimate conversation.
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    If you like killing brown babies and making wealthy men even more wealthier..... then the military is for you.....
    If I wanted to do that I would just work at an abortion clinic.
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    Originally Posted by robreynolds1234 View Post
    What does it make someone? A glorified future killer? Or what will a country do? Invade, fight, kill, destroy homes and buildings, half of the time they lose wars. Really its all nothing. I hope for a military free world someday.
    Interesting, try living in one of the countries without a military or with a very weak one and few alliances; see how that works out for you and how cucked they get. It's easy to speak of and have noble ideals, it's much harder to do work on the ground towards it.

    You wanna bring up the idea? get your @ss off the podium and work towards it, that'll show yourself how much you really hope for it.
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    Originally Posted by ErnieMccracken View Post
    Fighting a "conventional war" in this century would be like the guys who showed up with muskets for WWI and got ventilated by machine guns last century.

    All future wars between super powers will be fought using economics without firing a single bullet or missile. We can no longer survive without complex international supply chains and 24/7 just in time access to resources. China started a couple decades ago. No need for nukes when you can bankrupt your enemy and buy up all their property at a garage sale.
    what real world consequence does the us going bankupt have? it's just numbers on a screen
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    Originally Posted by kenjoshx View Post
    Interesting, try living in one of the countries without a military or with a very weak one and few alliances; see how that works out for you and how cucked they get. It's easy to speak of and have noble ideals, it's much harder to do work on the ground towards it.

    You wanna bring up the idea? get your @ss off the podium and work towards it, that'll show yourself how much you really hope for it.
    many countries have very small armies and have not been invaded. The US military is lying to you that you need a big army.

    The reason why the us have such a big military is 1. its all stolen resources so they dont care, 2. its to protect the stolen resources, just in case.
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    what real world consequence does the us going bankupt have? it's just numbers on a screen
    We will no longer be able to service our debt, dollar will collapse, and will be cut off from the world economy. FULL Mad Max situation within a few weeks ded srs.
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    We will no longer be able to service our debt, dollar will collapse, and will be cut off from the world economy. FULL Mad Max situation within a few weeks ded srs.
    sensationalism of peace, when you have the most poweful military in the world there's no such thing as servicing debt and dollar collapse, go ahead and try to de-recognize the $ and see what happens, there's no such thing as economics, it's all imaginary numbers on a computer, all that matters is force projection, dollar supremacy will stay until someone can protect foreign countries from being invaded by the us military behemoth bc they chose to drop it
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    Originally Posted by 58220 View Post
    sensationalism of peace, when you have the most poweful military in the world there's no such thing as servicing debt and dollar collapse, go ahead and try to de-recognize the $ and see what happens, there's no such thing as economics, it's all imaginary numbers on a computer, all that matters is force projection, dollar supremacy will stay until someone can protect foreign countries from being invaded by the us military behemoth
    1. You dont have the most powerful military. The most powerful military have numbers.

    2. You stoled the land to be able to afford those military weapons. So in the end, ur a thief boasting about what you stoled.
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    Originally Posted by 58220 View Post
    sensationalism of peace, when you have the most poweful military in the world there's no such thing as servicing debt and dollar collapse, go ahead and try to de-recognize the $ and see what happens, there's no such thing as economics, it's all imaginary numbers on a computer, all that matters is force projection, dollar supremacy will stay until someone can protect foreign countries from being invaded by the us military behemoth bc they chose to drop it

    So we default on our debt to China and they shut the ports down. What do you think the next steps are? We start firing missiles?
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    If you like killing brown babies and making wealthy men even more wealthier..... then the military is for you.....
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    The problem with the military in this country is the bloat and the self perpetuating military industrial complex. We could cut our budget by at least a third and keep the same efficiency by doing a few things. Eliminate unnecessary bases in other countries around the world. Other countries need to step up and pull their own weight militarily. We also need to introduce some oversight and auditing so we don't get things like a hundred million dollar gas station in Afghanistan or paying $5k for a single shovel. On top of that there are contract projects that get renewed with no oversight that end up going nowhere or sometimes getting to completion way over budget. We could put the saved money into better training and research into nuclear fusion.
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    Originally Posted by tunafishha View Post
    1. You dont have the most powerful military. The most powerful military have numbers.

    2. You stoled the land to be able to afford those military weapons. So in the end, ur a thief.
    not american, not even white, don't care about their evil country but numbers have nothing to with it when the soldiers are not made for war, chinese are very soft beta people in general and that's not a trait you want in combat personnel, there's a reason why historically you always lost so many wars and got enslaved so easily despite huge numerical superiority

    Originally Posted by ErnieMccracken View Post
    So we default on our debt to China and they shut the ports down. What do you think the next steps are? We start firing missiles?
    shut the ports down for what? all the us imports from china is consumer goods, are americans gonna die if they don't get this stuff? meanwhile china has zero domestic oil sufficiency, can't feed their own population, import complex heavy machinery, they will rekt themselves if they try it, there's a reason china keeps buying us treasuries despite the ongoing tensions
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