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    Most Overrated Player in the NFL?

    Jadeveon Clowney

    He got all of 3 sacks last year and they put him at #41 on the NFL top 100? Ahead of Fletcher Cox, Zadarius Smith and Myles Garrett.

    The Texans traded him away relatively cheaply, the Seahawks didnt resign or tag him, and he's still sitting as a free agent this far. If he was genuinely a league top 10 pass rusher teams would be all over him
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    if we're basing it off the NFL top 100 list it doesn't take long for me because the first thing i see is Lamar Jackson as the number one overall player in the league. i guess this is fantasy football now and nobody cares about the playoffs.
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    Clowney is up there for sure. Insane pre-draft hype over that one massive hit on the manlet RB.

    Guys has under performed or been injured most of his career so far.
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    Originally Posted by Murph0408 View Post
    if we're basing it off the NFL top 100 list it doesn't take long for me because the first thing i see is Lamar Jackson as the number one overall player in the league. i guess this is fantasy football now and nobody cares about the playoffs.
    Lead the league in touchdowns, broke the all time record for QB rushing yards, had a passer rating basically equal to Patrick Mahomes 50 and 5000 MVP year while throwing to literally the worst WR corps in the league

    Sure nobody would take him over Mahomes right now, but based on last year you can't argue that he deserved at least top 3
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    Originally Posted by LukeS1 View Post
    Lead the league in touchdowns, broke the all time record for QB rushing yards, had a passer rating basically equal to Patrick Mahomes 50 and 5000 MVP year while throwing to literally the worst WR corps in the league

    Sure nobody would take him over Mahomes right now, but based on last year you can't argue that he deserved at least top 3
    Yeah, it's hard to argue Lamar Jackson wasn't the best player in the league last year. The top 100 is listing the best players from the previous year. Statistically, his season was off the charts.

    Mahomes is easily the better QB, and the best player in the league, but his 2018-2019 campaign was so insane that his 2019-2020 season seemed like a "regression", when in reality his stats were still ridiculous.
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    Rodgers went from being in GOAT conversations to winning a single SB and constantly being problematic for his team.

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    Dak Prescott and it's not even close. Decent, but not worth the money.
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    Dak Prescott and it's not even close. Decent, but not worth the money.
    to be fair - I think the only one over rating Dak is himself and his agent. Dallas didn't bend to pay him more than he was worth, and just about all level headed Dallas fans realize he's an above average starter, with a very high ceiling, but insanely inconsistent.
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    Originally Posted by JUGGERNAUT1333 View Post
    to be fair - I think the only one over rating Dak is himself and his agent. Dallas didn't bend to pay him more than he was worth, and just about all level headed Dallas fans realize he's an above average starter, with a very high ceiling, but insanely inconsistent.
    The amount of attention on sports talk on whether he should be paid or not is ridiculous. He's about a Kirk Cousins level player.

    Being in New England and following the Patriots, I never understood the Tedy Bruschi hype from fellow Pats fans. A good player but not great. Once he had his stroke, he was a chase down linebacker against the run. The myth was larger than the reality.
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    Clowney is definitely up there. Seems like he should be in the top tier of pass rushers, but constantly leaves you wanting more

    Dak is another good one, but I think that stems from playing in Dallas and the media presence around the Cowboys.

    My contribution is Kirk Cousins, which may seem obvious, but the media loves him despite the fact he cant beat good teams.
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    I dont know. Clowney can completely disrupt the game in ways that wont show up on the stat sheet. He just doesn't do it on a consistent basis.


    Erin is overrated to hell & back but he is still a good QB. Same thing goes for Brady.


    My vote goes to Michael Thomas (srs). If I was choosing WRs based on talent he would not be 1 of the first 3 I choose.
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    Originally Posted by AlBHappy View Post
    The amount of attention on sports talk on whether he should be paid or not is ridiculous. He's about a Kirk Cousins level player.

    Being in New England and following the Patriots, I never understood the Tedy Bruschi hype from fellow Pats fans. A good player but not great. Once he had his stroke, he was a chase down linebacker against the run. The myth was larger than the reality.
    As a Cowboys fan, I'm anxious to see Dak have a year under a new coach/system. The talent and upside is there. If a coach can maximize that, Dak has the potential to be a very good quarterback.

    He needs to really play at a top level this year though. It's no secret that he stat padded heavily last year against weaker teams and/or garbage time.
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    Originally Posted by drvillain View Post
    I dont know. Clowney can completely disrupt the game in ways that wont show up on the stat sheet. He just doesn't do it on a consistent basis.

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    This is what people say, but thats just people rating him on his athletic ability and what he could/should be. He doesn't take advantage of his physical gifts, he uses them as crutch to make up for his lack of other qualities to make him a good but not great player. Meanwhile far less talented players are producing far more on the field
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    Originally Posted by LukeS1 View Post
    This is what people say, but thats just people rating him on his athletic ability and what he could/should be. He doesn't take advantage of his physical gifts, he uses them as crutch to make up for his lack of other qualities to make him a good but not great player. Meanwhile far less talented players are producing far more on the field
    lol no man, I say that because I have seen it. There is a reason the seahawks have been desperately trying to get him back. I agree with the rest of your post though
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    lol no man, I say that because I have seen it. There is a reason the seahawks have been desperately trying to get him back. I agree with the rest of your post though
    Yeah, I don't disagree. The problem is Clowney is either playing with 110% into it, or he's playing at 70% it seems. There such a wave in his performance, a lot attributed to playing hurt often I'm sure.
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    lol no man, I say that because I have seen it. There is a reason the seahawks have been desperately trying to get him back. I agree with the rest of your post though
    Not that desperate, if they didnt trade for Adams and have to prepare for his extension they could have retained him, given the relative positional values that says a lot about him to me
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    I agree on Michael Thomas, I think he's top 5 but I dont see an argument for him over Hopkins or Julio Jones
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    Probably patrick mahomes if u wanna be real
    Do you mean in the sense of his all time ranking and people getting ahead of themselves, or do you mean his present ranking among QBs (ie you must be trolling)
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    Agreed on Clowney, and I was super stoked on him coming into the league. Lamar Jackson has to be up there as well.
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    Originally Posted by BigElephant View Post
    Lamar Jackson has to be up there as well.
    I don't think you can say this yet. He made incredible strides from his rookie season to last year. He was playing on an insane level. Need a much bigger sample size to claim he's over rated.
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    Originally Posted by HockeyBacon18 View Post
    Clowney is definitely up there. Seems like he should be in the top tier of pass rushers, but constantly leaves you wanting more

    Dak is another good one, but I think that stems from playing in Dallas and the media presence around the Cowboys.


    My contribution is Kirk Cousins, which may seem obvious, but the media loves him despite the fact he cant beat good teams.
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    Originally Posted by drvillain View Post
    I dont know. Clowney can completely disrupt the game in ways that wont show up on the stat sheet. He just doesn't do it on a consistent basis.


    Erin is overrated to hell & back but he is still a good QB. Same thing goes for Brady.


    My vote goes to Michael Thomas (srs). If I was choosing WRs based on talent he would not be 1 of the first 3 I choose.
    I will **** you up. Name another WR that catches better than him. I'll wait.
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    Originally Posted by LukeS1 View Post
    I agree on Michael Thomas, I think he's top 5 but I dont see an argument for him over Hopkins or Julio Jones
    Yeah I'm unsure on Thomas. I feel like he benefits a lot from Brees and Payton's system. He's good but like you said he's not on DHop or Julio's level.
    Originally Posted by JUGGERNAUT1333 View Post
    I don't think you can say this yet. He made incredible strides from his rookie season to last year. He was playing on an insane level. Need a much bigger sample size to claim he's over rated.
    He was just rated #1 on the NFL list despite being barely a top 5 QB in the league in my opinion. I predict he's going to get exposed as a passer going forward. He's had one good year on a stacked team, and QBs like him always have a couple good years and then defenses adjust and they fizzle out.
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    I will **** you up. Name another WR that catches better than him. I'll wait.
    Him and Dhop are 2 of the best at it. It's everything else about his game that keeps him out of my top 3. Trust me, he benefits greatly from having the most accurate QB in the league, high IQ QB, and a QB that cant throw bombs anymore.
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