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    Originally Posted by LukeS1 View Post
    Too many of you are picking easy options, mid range QB's

    Name me some receivers, backs or defensive players
    I said Julio. There’s an easy case to be made.
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    Probably Matt Ryan or Tom Brady these days. Both way past their prime. Brees would dog on both of them.
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    Originally Posted by Blasting View Post
    I said Julio. There’s an easy case to be made.
    Curious to your reasoning on this one, legitimately asking. I like to hear opinions.
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    Originally Posted by JUGGERNAUT1333 View Post
    Curious to your reasoning on this one, legitimately asking. I like to hear opinions.
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    Originally Posted by Swept View Post
    Every starting QB except the rookies QBs. Brady is Eli circa 2018, arm strength is gone, he’s petrified of getting hit so he flinches in the pocket every snap and his timing is that of a geriatric
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    Harsh but fair
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    Originally Posted by wildchild11 View Post
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    kinda crazy that tom is the worst qb in the nfc south but still got ranked 14th in nfl top 100.
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    Originally Posted by jlick View Post
    kinda crazy that tom is the worst qb in the nfc south but still got ranked 14th in nfl top 100.
    Definitely the worst of the big 3, but not as bad as Teddy Penderwater
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    Originally Posted by JUGGERNAUT1333 View Post
    Curious to your reasoning on this one, legitimately asking. I like to hear opinions.
    Only one season over 8 touchdowns. I thought it was just bad luck for a while but the last four seasons he’s almost averaging 1500 yards and yet his TD production is 6, 3, 8, and 6. Hes just not much of a red zone weapon. Definitely not a goal line weapon. Calvin, Moss, AB84, even guys like OBJ, Adams and Hopkins’ teams design plays for them at the goal line because they’re so dominant. Not sure why Julio can’t be a beast <5 yards to go but his team knows him best and they go away from him in those situations.

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    Originally Posted by Blasting View Post
    Only one season over 8 touchdowns. I thought it was just bad luck for a while but the last four seasons he’s almost averaging 1500 yards and yet his TD production is 6, 3, 8, and 6. Hes just not much of a red zone weapon. Definitely not a goal line weapon. Calvin, Moss, AB84, even guys like OBJ, Adams and Hopkins’ teams design plays for them at the goal line because they’re so dominant. Not sure why Julio can’t be a beast <5 yards to go but his team knows him best and they go away from him in those situations.

    Great player but flawed in an important aspect.
    It's what happens when you have a QB that finds the open WR rather than forcing it to someone with double sometimes triple coverage in a condensed area. It's not coincidence that said QB, broke an NFL record for completing TD passes to 13 different WRs in a season
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    Originally Posted by Blasting View Post
    Only one season over 8 touchdowns. I thought it was just bad luck for a while but the last four seasons he’s almost averaging 1500 yards and yet his TD production is 6, 3, 8, and 6. Hes just not much of a red zone weapon. Definitely not a goal line weapon. Calvin, Moss, AB84, even guys like OBJ, Adams and Hopkins’ teams design plays for them at the goal line because they’re so dominant. Not sure why Julio can’t be a beast <5 yards to go but his team knows him best and they go away from him in those situations.

    Great player but flawed in an important aspect.

    I hear the TD argument a lot, and while I get what you're saying, I don't think Julio is over-rated personally. 6/9 seasons going 1400+ yards(well one season with 1394, close enough) with a career average of a little over 96/yds a game. That's pretty insane production.

    i will admit, the TD thing is odd. You'd think his numbers would be higher. What drvillian said could play a roll in that or perhaps play-calling. Who knows really.
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    Originally Posted by drvillain View Post
    It's what happens when you have a QB that finds the open WR rather than forcing it to someone with double sometimes triple coverage in a condensed area. It's not coincidence that said QB, broke an NFL record for completing TD passes to 13 different WRs in a season
    Nice try. I guess Brady “forced” it to Gronk and Moss. Big Ben “forced” it to AB. Rodgers “forced” it to Adams. You say MT is overrated, and while I agree, Brees never forces anything to anyone and yet MT is on pace to be a more productive touchdown scorer than Julio.

    Funny how Brady threw so much to Edelman over the years and yet never “forced” it to him in the red zone hence Edelman never topping 7 touchdowns. I guess good quarterbacks recognize their teammates strengths. If Matty is so good he must realize Julio isn’t his best option in tight quarters.
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    If Matty is so good he must realize Julio isn’t his best option in tight quarters.
    Either that or defenses give Jones extra attention in the redzone?

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    Originally Posted by drvillain View Post
    Definitely the worst of the big 3, but not as bad as Teddy Penderwater
    Who are the big 3?

    Surely you’re not talking about Matty Melt lmao

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    I said Julio. There’s an easy case to be made.
    I rate the boldness even though I dont agree. Too many dudes in here just saying mediocre QB > another mediocre QB
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    Either that or defenses give Jones extra attention in the redzone?

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    Damn, I wonder why teams never did that in 2007 with Moss. I wonder why teams never did that with AB. Why didn’t teams double Gronk or Hopkins or Calvin?


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    Originally Posted by Blasting View Post
    Damn, I wonder why teams never did that in 2007 with Moss. I wonder why teams never did that with AB. Why didn’t teams double Gronk or Hopkins or Calvin?


    You don’t know sh*t about football.
    last season inside 10 yds of the redzone for TDs, Julio Jones is ranked #6 and Austin Hooper is ranked #5.

    Like I said. Everyone eats on the falcons. No other team comes close to having 2 players up there in rank. Ryan especially likes TEs in the redzone. He always has
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    Originally Posted by Blasting View Post
    Damn, I wonder why teams never did that in 2007 with Moss. I wonder why teams never did that with AB. Why didn’t teams double Gronk or Hopkins or Calvin?


    You don’t know sh*t about football.
    Your half baked theories only hold up in isolation.

    Football games aren't played in a vacuum Timmy.

    I can defeat any argument you put forth simply on the strength of your little Timmy brain not being capable of coming up with complex, nuanced arguments.

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    Your half baked theories only hold up in isolation.

    Football games aren't played in a vacuum Timmy.

    I can defeat any argument you put forth simply on the strength of your little Timmy brain not being capable of coming up with complex, nuanced arguments.

    For me it's like arguing with a toddler, I get that you fully believe that you're right but everyone else is laughing at you.
    “I can defeat any argument”

    Doesn’t defeat my argument


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    last season inside 10 yds of the redzone for TDs, Julio Jones is ranked #6 and Austin Hooper is ranked #5.

    Like I said. Everyone eats on the falcons. No other team comes close to having 2 players up there in rank. Ryan especially likes TEs in the redzone. He always has
    I think Julio is great, I’m just saying when people constantly throw out that he’s the best receiver in the league, at some point the TD’s need to come.

    In the same amount of seasons played, Calvin Johnson had 4 seasons with more touchdowns than Julio’s high of 10. Three seasons with 12 TD’s and one season with 16. But I bet if you asked most people it’d be split on who they think was a better receiver between the two.
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    Originally Posted by Blasting View Post
    “I can defeat any argument”

    Doesn’t defeat my argument


    This is why you’re MBisonSon.
    Because it's pretty stupid to bring up different players in different situations.

    You even went as far as bringing up Gronkowski, who's not even the same position.

    That's stupid in it's own merit since it's much tougher to double team a TE since they line up in and work the middle of the field.

    Do you get it now Timmy?

    Your arguments fall apart pretty easily under scrutiny, but they work well in completely isolated context (which isn't realistic).

    I don't need to take the rest apart, I proved exactly what I wanted to.
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    Definitely the worst of the big 3, but not as bad as Teddy Penderwater
    We will see. Tom has better weapons this year, which will be a big advantage for him, but Teddy was great on the saints. Not outstanding like Brees, but he did go undefeated against a really tough schedule. (lots of credit to coach on those Dubs tho)
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    Originally Posted by MBisonSon View Post
    Because it's pretty stupid to bring up different players in different situations.

    You even went as far as bringing up Gronkowski, who's not even the same position.

    That's stupid in it's own merit since it's much tougher to double team a TE since they line up in and work the middle of the field.

    Do you get it now Timmy?

    Your arguments fall apart pretty easily under scrutiny, but they work well in completely isolated context (which isn't realistic).

    I don't need to take the rest apart, I proved exactly what I wanted to.
    Literally didn’t read a single word.
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    Originally Posted by MBisonSon View Post
    Your half baked theories only hold up in isolation.

    Football games aren't played in a vacuum Timmy.

    I can defeat any argument you put forth simply on the strength of your little Timmy brain not being capable of coming up with complex, nuanced arguments.

    For me it's like arguing with a toddler, I get that you fully believe that you're right but everyone else is laughing at you.
    Something you should know a lot about since you've been posting like one for years.
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    Originally Posted by Blasting View Post
    I think Julio is great, I’m just saying when people constantly throw out that he’s the best receiver in the league, at some point the TD’s need to come.

    In the same amount of seasons played, Calvin Johnson had 4 seasons with more touchdowns than Julio’s high of 10. Three seasons with 12 TD’s and one season with 16. But I bet if you asked most people it’d be split on who they think was a better receiver between the two.
    When you say Julio is overated, I thought you were meaning not a top 3 or even top 5 WR right now.

    I would not put him over Calvin, but I wouldn't put anyone above Calvin since Randy Moss
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