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    Originally Posted by tunafishha View Post
    Do me a favor and smack yourself in the face for stealing land and then talking mad chit online.

    The US would get their chit handed to them in an all out war vs China, bb.
    conquest is a concept as old as time... go read a book.
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    Originally Posted by DeputyDong5 View Post
    conquest is a concept as old as time... go read a book.
    incriminating yourself even more as a thief.

    But but but muh CoNQUeStT. Stfu. Its stealing.
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    Originally Posted by DeputyDong5 View Post
    conquest is a concept as old as time... go read a book.

    pretty sure a serviceman banged his mum and he heard her moans
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    Originally Posted by elterrible987 View Post
    pretty sure a serviceman banged his mum and he heard her moans
    nah. She likes asian guys. not down syndrome looking white doods.
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    Originally Posted by elterrible987 View Post
    pretty sure a serviceman banged his mum and he heard her moans
    another form of conquest... she was in need of a real man because whoever raised that clown should be dragged out back and put down like a sick dog.
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    Originally Posted by DeputyDong5 View Post
    another form of conquest... she was in need of a real man because whoever raised that clown should be dragged out back and put down like a sick dog.
    The only thing youve conquered is a mountain of poo, stinky boy.

    Im kicking out all the USAF in the East. Better get out asap or youll look bad for being a part of the goon squad.
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    OP,

    I did ROTC I college. You are going to need to look up age requirements. You may be too old. You are for active duty (cutoff is 27).

    I wouldn’t want to do it at your age. Being a 30 year old with 19 year old “peers”. No thanks Jeff.

    There are waivers for everything, but we are not at war or anything. During the surges in Iraq, felonies were being waived.

    You may be able to swing it with your state depending on their need, but honestly, I doubt it.

    The benefits may be worth it if you can. Not trying to dissuade you, by all means try. I just feel you personally would be better off dedicating your resources to other paths.

    The best thing you can do is talk to a recruiter. They will be able to give you more straight answers with respect to things like age limitations. Which I’m surprised no one has brought up yet. The whole “18-20” year old peer group thing is more of a mental thing. I couldn’t imagine going to boot as a 30 year old and some 19 year old “squad leader“ yelling at me.

    Of course there are many cautions I have for discussions with recruiters. If it comes to that, just don’t sign anything until coming back for an update brief please.

    Also, you should have just made a simp thread. Would have been 538848 X 10^32 pages by now.

    Also, stop giving tuna fish the victory of actually engaging him. Bunch of newbs around here I swear.
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    Originally Posted by eatmycrackers View Post
    Would love to become a reserve airplane pilot. Curious if anyone has details, my company allows for time away for reserve training.

    You have an education?
    I only read thread titles and my own posts.

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    Originally Posted by elterrible987 View Post
    so america does have a threat and does need a big military?......


    really need to work on your logic breh.
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    Originally Posted by Ironmanlet View Post
    OP,

    I did ROTC I college. You are going to need to look up age requirements. You may be too old. You are for active duty (cutoff is 27).

    I wouldn’t want to do it at your age. Being a 30 year old with 19 year old “peers”. No thanks Jeff.

    There are waivers for everything, but we are not at war or anything. During the surges in Iraq, felonies were being waived.

    You may be able to swing it with your state depending on their need, but honestly, I doubt it.

    The benefits may be worth it if you can. Not trying to dissuade you, by all means try. I just feel you personally would be better off dedicating your resources to other paths.

    The best thing you can do is talk to a recruiter. They will be able to give you more straight answers with respect to things like age limitations. Which I’m surprised no one has brought up yet. The whole “18-20” year old peer group thing is more of a mental thing. I couldn’t imagine going to boot as a 30 year old and some 19 year old “squad leader“ yelling at me.

    Of course there are many cautions I have for discussions with recruiters. If it comes to that, just don’t sign anything until coming back for an update brief please.

    Also, you should have just made a simp thread. Would have been 538848 X 10^32 pages by now.

    Also, stop giving tuna fish the victory of actually engaging him. Bunch of newbs around here I swear.
    Aren't there active duty personnel in their 40s or something?
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    Originally Posted by Microshaft View Post
    Aren't there active duty personnel in their 40s or something?

    There are age cut offs for enlisting/commissioning. Theres tons of 40 something still in, that is a different set of rules. Almost nobody gets retired for age because that limit is like 60 something and usually people have too much time in rank, health issues ect that force retirement first.

    There are lots of exceptions and age waivers for getting into the military, OP looking at medical stuff is in luck there.
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    Originally Posted by elterrible987 View Post
    There are age cut offs for enlisting/commissioning. Theres tons of 40 something still in, that is a different set of rules. Almost nobody gets retired for age because that limit is like 60 something and usually people have too much time in rank, health issues ect that force retirement first.

    There are lots of exceptions and age waivers for getting into the military, OP looking at medical stuff is in luck there.
    Gotcha. I guess the military doesn't prefer to recruit people who didn't "grow up" in the military? Otherwise, cutoffs due to fitness reasons wouldn't really make sense given the large population of 40+ still in like you said.
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    Originally Posted by Microshaft View Post
    Gotcha. I guess the military doesn't prefer to recruit people who didn't "grow up" in the military? Otherwise, cutoffs due to fitness reasons wouldn't really make sense given the large population of 40+ still in like you said.

    probably has to do with how much time they can get out of you before the risk of something happening. it cost a lot of money for all the training ect, they take in some 40 year and only get 5 years out of them before medical issues crop up it would be a waste.

    but it depends because for officers in some fields jags, chaplains, medical they take them in all the time in their 30s. They have civilians that can do those jobs but need active duty too, difference is they have more control and can force people to deploy. If they need an eye doctor in Afghanistan, civilians dont have to move over there if they dont want to, but they can force an active duty doctor over there if its needed. And if they have a pool of reservist then they can surge whenever the next neocon starts a new war.
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    Gotcha. I guess the military doesn't prefer to recruit people who didn't "grow up" in the military? Otherwise, cutoffs due to fitness reasons wouldn't really make sense given the large population of 40+ still in like you said.
    It could be a mindset thing, but I think a lot of it has to do with medical and legal liabilities as well along with financial investments.

    How much return can the military get out of spending money on a 20 year old, versus a 40 year old?
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    I've been reserve, active, Army and Marines.

    You're not too old. You can get an officer contract before you get your degree. It's decent if you need options. Not too familiar with combat medic positions but you may need a split training option.
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    I've been reserve, active, Army and Marines.

    You're not too old. You can get an officer contract before you get your degree. It's decent if you need options. Not too familiar with combat medic positions but you may need a split training option.

    Age limit is still 27 (without prior service). At least is was when I commissioned in 2013.

    And it is necessary to mention contractual obligations, such as if you do get an officer contract before getting a degree (let’s say OCS), you will be contractually obligated you finish your degree (I believe within a year).
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    What are your goals? Most people in the military think reservists are gay. They are mostly weekend warriors (nothing wrong with that if it’s your goal), and don’t see real combat when “deployed”, as they are mostly “building schools and hospitals, training local peacekeepers, or teaching local farmers more efficient farming techniques and better ways to use of their land“. Even most infantry grunts in the military don’t see serious action, it’s probably mostly driving over IEDs and engaging enemy snipers taking potshots. If you’re looking for serious experience or combat I’d go SOF (Rangers are pretty based), but there’s an obvious risk and your age may hold you back unless you’re a PT god.
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    I have thought about it but don't think it would be worth it. Pay seems decent, until you realized your real job isn't paying you those two weeks a year. And the retirement benefits for reservists isn't that great.
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    Originally Posted by BulkingIsHard View Post
    What are your goals? Most people in the military think reservists are gay. They are mostly weekend warriors (nothing wrong with that if it’s your goal), and don’t see real combat when “deployed”, as they are mostly “building schools and hospitals, training local peacekeepers, or teaching local farmers more efficient farming techniques and better ways to use of their land“. Even most infantry grunts in the military don’t see serious action, it’s probably mostly driving over IEDs and engaging enemy snipers taking potshots. If you’re looking for serious experience or combat I’d go SOF (Rangers are pretty based), but there’s an obvious risk and your age may hold you back unless you’re a PT god.

    Absolutely worth pointing out. We are not at war and haven’t been for a long time. Even SF/SOF are not being engaged, or engaging nearly what people would believe.

    If you want to do something like this, keep in mind there are other ore-prequisites, (minimum rank, MOS IAT/BOLCA/B complete, airborne completion, PT score (as you mentioned), etc.)

    When I joined (in 2003), they were awarding contracts for SOF positions straight out of boot camp, but I doubt that is a thing now. Of course I could be wrong.
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    Former usmc reservist. You Mad I used to wear my uniform out and get laid, get time off from work, and postpone test in college for “training”
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    Originally Posted by CaliSuperSport View Post
    Lately I've been seriously thinking about joining a reserve branch. I'm older now (30) and because of my college plans, an active duty bid is pretty much out of the question.

    I considered Air Force but I'd kind of like to become a combat medic in the Army. I know I could join after becoming a physician, but I want to have the whole BCT experience too. Any miscers here that served or know someone who served who went to school at the same time? I heard some reservists were recently mobilized to Kuwait or the Asian regions tho.
    Dude there is absolutely no point in going to basic training if you're going to be a physician. Being in the medical corps is way different than being a regular army officer. Being in the reserves is way different than being active duty.

    As a reservist physician you'll just basically show up once a month and do physicals on the weekend, in uniform, for less pay.

    If you join now and become a combat medic you'll have to deploy a bunch which slows down school, the pay is ****, no one gives a **** if their doctor was prior enlisted, and it will be a pain in the ass to commission if you're already enlisted.

    I dont know why everyone has this stupid idea that they need the enlisted to get respect or some dumb ****.

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    Hey bros thanks for the responses, I thought the thread would be dead.

    Originally Posted by ScramFranklin View Post
    I have thought about it but don't think it would be worth it. Pay seems decent, until you realized your real job isn't paying you those two weeks a year. And the retirement benefits for reservists isn't that great.
    Tbh I didn't even know they got paid for training so I was down for it even when I thought it was volunteering time.

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    Dude there is absolutely no point in going to basic training if you're going to be a physician. Being in the medical corps is way different than being a regular army officer. Being in the reserves is way different than being active duty.

    As a reservist physician you'll just basically show up once a month and do physicals on the weekend, in uniform, for less pay.

    If you join now and become a combat medic you'll have to deploy a bunch which slows down school, the pay is ****, no one gives a **** if their doctor was prior enlisted, and it will be a pain in the ass to commission if you're already enlisted.

    I dont know why everyone has this stupid idea that they need the enlisted to get respect or some dumb ****.

    Source prior enlisted air force, commissioning in the reserves.
    Damn I really did think it would stand for something. I mean EMT is one of the most recommended pre-med jobs. I was thinking of getting my EMT first, working for a few months, and then enlisting as an e4 under 68W. I watched a combat medic on youtube who said they'll also fast track your AIT a bit since you're certified.

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    Don’t do it. If you want the experience join active duty and do it for real and get better benefits. I was in the army reserve and chit sucked. You go through the same training initially as active duty most of the time but in the guard or reserve they do a half ass job at maintaining your skills while in active duty you do it more often. Its hell trying to maintain a job or go to school while in as they require alot of additional bullchit training. We also had a month long training exercise but they made it so they just paid us the base pay without BAH (additional money to pay for housing) and that fuked alot of us as some of us have higher paying jobs outside the military. Most of the dumbasses in charge have government jobs or a job that lets them take the time off while they dont give a fuk about the lower guys.
    I wish but I missed my chance at active duty in my early 20's. Right now I'm staring down the barrel of 6-8 more years of college and I'm already 30 years old, so while I have a huge interest in the military, my age is pushing me bias towards advancing my career.

    I made sure to know what to expect as a reservist vs. Active Duty and I'm cool with it, and I was shocked to learn you even get paid at all.

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    Do it. But I'd recommend the Air Force or Navy.

    I served in the Air Force and Army and Army is on that bull**** lol.

    Yeah, you can be activated and deployed. Just do your research on what base you'll be going to and find out if that unit has already been activated. I went three years without ever getting deployed in the Army. This stupid rioting did activate me, but my contract was up and didn't have do chit.

    It will pay for college, but you have to have a four year min agreement I believe. And yes some will say it's only two weeks out of the year combined, but that's not true. Certain units can drill for far longer if they choose. Army constantly changes chit so your civilian job better be cool with adjusting to it short term.

    BCT is super easy mode vs when I first went in 2008. I went again in 2017 and breezed through it. AIT was annoying the second time I went through it, but it was bearable.
    Thanks for the insight. I'm going to look more into Air Force reserves, I just have a fixation on the army since my grandfather was an officer there. Were you active duty or reserve in the Army?

    Originally Posted by DeputyDong5 View Post
    Honestly I am not familiar with officer age limits, but I would commission after you're a physician or not join. Srs. Then join the Air Force... life on easy mode. Sure, the enlisted population on base might frown upon a 2nd Lt., but you'll be a captain in 4 years. Then major 2 years after that. After that promotion is merit based and competitive... but at this point you're making $70k+/year which may not seem like a lot, but you'll be living in officer housing or given 2-3k a month to live off base on top of your base pay. Officers have it made srs... by the time you're a captain basically nobody is going to f*ck with you. Even senior enlisted chiefs will be saluting you in the parking lot.

    The one thing I've learned about the military is, people spend more time thinking about it than actually just mustering up the courage and doing it. I walked into a recruiters office at 18 almost spontaneously and it was the best decision of my life. Now I am getting my engineering degree for free after being to 19 countries and forged friendships that just aren't forged in the civilian world... and might even consider commissioning after getting it for all of the aforementioned reasons. Life is short... there's always a thousand reasons not to do something.
    That last part describes me to a T. I had several people telling me to join the marine corp at 22 and I didn't listen, because I was too much of a depressed kunt at the time and didn't think I'd make it.

    I really wanted to have the whole BCT experience, especially if it'll be the bulk of my training as a reserve soldier. If I can't swing it, then I'll definitely get involved post-college the way you said.

    Originally Posted by Ironmanlet View Post
    OP,

    I did ROTC I college. You are going to need to look up age requirements. You may be too old. You are for active duty (cutoff is 27).

    I wouldn’t want to do it at your age. Being a 30 year old with 19 year old “peers”. No thanks Jeff.

    There are waivers for everything, but we are not at war or anything. During the surges in Iraq, felonies were being waived.

    You may be able to swing it with your state depending on their need, but honestly, I doubt it.

    The benefits may be worth it if you can. Not trying to dissuade you, by all means try. I just feel you personally would be better off dedicating your resources to other paths.

    The best thing you can do is talk to a recruiter. They will be able to give you more straight answers with respect to things like age limitations. Which I’m surprised no one has brought up yet. The whole “18-20” year old peer group thing is more of a mental thing. I couldn’t imagine going to boot as a 30 year old and some 19 year old “squad leader“ yelling at me.

    Of course there are many cautions I have for discussions with recruiters. If it comes to that, just don’t sign anything until coming back for an update brief please.

    Also, you should have just made a simp thread. Would have been 538848 X 10^32 pages by now.

    Also, stop giving tuna fish the victory of actually engaging him. Bunch of newbs around here I swear.
    Thanks ironmanlet. FWIW I'm an undergrad right now surrounded by 18-22 year olds anyway, lol. And they're the social media whoring/video game loving types, I figure being around recruits would be more mature than that.

    I've done my best to learn what the job is actually like, and tbh even the boring and annoying chit gets me excited. It's not like I'm doing much at home but in the reserve I can say I'm a part time soldier and in the military which sounds cool to me. I do alot of firearms training at home and I'd love to experience the more regimented stuff while also learning other things.

    My biggest reason for making this thread is seeing if it's feasible to fit in the training and commitment without seriously derailing my education path. I read about some program for medical students that makes them exempt from deployment. That would be perfect because I heard of medical students who weren't in that program getting mobilization orders and that would be a nightmare.

    I'm going to talk to a recruiter this week. Obviously service is important but I'd be lying if I said I'd like to be deployed and put my civ. life on hold, primarily because of my age.

    Originally Posted by Jayl12345 View Post
    I've been reserve, active, Army and Marines.

    You're not too old. You can get an officer contract before you get your degree. It's decent if you need options. Not too familiar with combat medic positions but you may need a split training option.
    Originally Posted by BulkingIsHard View Post
    What are your goals? Most people in the military think reservists are gay. They are mostly weekend warriors (nothing wrong with that if it’s your goal), and don’t see real combat when “deployed”, as they are mostly “building schools and hospitals, training local peacekeepers, or teaching local farmers more efficient farming techniques and better ways to use of their land“. Even most infantry grunts in the military don’t see serious action, it’s probably mostly driving over IEDs and engaging enemy snipers taking potshots. If you’re looking for serious experience or combat I’d go SOF (Rangers are pretty based), but there’s an obvious risk and your age may hold you back unless you’re a PT god.
    The ideal would be to get my EMT and enlist to become a combat medic next summer. Then apparently I can do AIT the following summer to work around my school schedule.

    I'm really honest about myself and don't gloat, I understand that active duty are higher caliber soldiers, so I'd like to see someone give me chit to joining the reserve considering my life history, I'm not having it. If I'm not trying to steal valor or pretend I'm a badass then that's straight high school chit IMO. Combat/active duty is really out of the question at this point because of school, but I found it interesting that there's SOF reserves.
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    Active duty or bust,esp in your field
    active duty would be awesome but if I can just do some training as a reservist and continue my pre med path, that would be ideal.
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    Originally Posted by CaliSuperSport View Post
    Combat/active duty is really out of the question at this point because of school, but I found it interesting that there's SOF reserves.
    To my knowledge there really aren’t any SOF reserves. There’s 2 National Guard SF groups that deploy pretty regularly but if there’s Actual reserve SOF out there I’m not aware.
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    active duty would be awesome but if I can just do some training as a reservist and continue my pre med path, that would be ideal.
    If you can swing it man, a military contract could absolutely enhance your current path. Despite some of the other posters in here say, I really don’t think it is an option because of your age.

    Man, the military paid for my undergrad (directly) four times over. Indirectly through base pay even more so.

    And now it is even paying for my grad degree.

    Of course, all of this came with a cost that I started paying back in 2003. So that is the flip side.

    First thing you have to do is talk to a recruiter. And by that I mean, explicitly state your intended goals to a recruiter. He will either entertain the idea, or not.
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