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08-02-2020, 09:01 PM #31
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08-02-2020, 09:03 PM #32
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08-02-2020, 09:03 PM #33
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08-02-2020, 09:09 PM #36
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08-03-2020, 06:18 AM #37
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08-03-2020, 06:32 AM #38
OP,
I did ROTC I college. You are going to need to look up age requirements. You may be too old. You are for active duty (cutoff is 27).
I wouldn’t want to do it at your age. Being a 30 year old with 19 year old “peers”. No thanks Jeff.
There are waivers for everything, but we are not at war or anything. During the surges in Iraq, felonies were being waived.
You may be able to swing it with your state depending on their need, but honestly, I doubt it.
The benefits may be worth it if you can. Not trying to dissuade you, by all means try. I just feel you personally would be better off dedicating your resources to other paths.
The best thing you can do is talk to a recruiter. They will be able to give you more straight answers with respect to things like age limitations. Which I’m surprised no one has brought up yet. The whole “18-20” year old peer group thing is more of a mental thing. I couldn’t imagine going to boot as a 30 year old and some 19 year old “squad leader“ yelling at me.
Of course there are many cautions I have for discussions with recruiters. If it comes to that, just don’t sign anything until coming back for an update brief please.
Also, you should have just made a simp thread. Would have been 538848 X 10^32 pages by now.
Also, stop giving tuna fish the victory of actually engaging him. Bunch of newbs around here I swear.I only read thread titles and my own posts.
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08-03-2020, 06:32 AM #39I only read thread titles and my own posts.
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“The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.“
PS: Don't eat poop, just don't let the idea of it stop you from living life to its fullest.
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08-03-2020, 06:38 AM #40
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08-03-2020, 06:52 AM #41
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08-03-2020, 07:09 AM #42
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08-03-2020, 07:20 AM #43
There are age cut offs for enlisting/commissioning. Theres tons of 40 something still in, that is a different set of rules. Almost nobody gets retired for age because that limit is like 60 something and usually people have too much time in rank, health issues ect that force retirement first.
There are lots of exceptions and age waivers for getting into the military, OP looking at medical stuff is in luck there.
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08-03-2020, 07:38 AM #44
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08-03-2020, 07:48 AM #45
probably has to do with how much time they can get out of you before the risk of something happening. it cost a lot of money for all the training ect, they take in some 40 year and only get 5 years out of them before medical issues crop up it would be a waste.
but it depends because for officers in some fields jags, chaplains, medical they take them in all the time in their 30s. They have civilians that can do those jobs but need active duty too, difference is they have more control and can force people to deploy. If they need an eye doctor in Afghanistan, civilians dont have to move over there if they dont want to, but they can force an active duty doctor over there if its needed. And if they have a pool of reservist then they can surge whenever the next neocon starts a new war.
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08-03-2020, 07:51 AM #46I only read thread titles and my own posts.
cVc (OIF/OEF): *Retired*
Sorry for perfect english; I have a degree.
“The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.“
PS: Don't eat poop, just don't let the idea of it stop you from living life to its fullest.
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08-03-2020, 07:54 AM #47
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I've been reserve, active, Army and Marines.
You're not too old. You can get an officer contract before you get your degree. It's decent if you need options. Not too familiar with combat medic positions but you may need a split training option.██ █ ★ █ ██ USMC 99-07. USA 09-Present.
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08-03-2020, 07:56 AM #48
Age limit is still 27 (without prior service). At least is was when I commissioned in 2013.
And it is necessary to mention contractual obligations, such as if you do get an officer contract before getting a degree (let’s say OCS), you will be contractually obligated you finish your degree (I believe within a year).I only read thread titles and my own posts.
cVc (OIF/OEF): *Retired*
Sorry for perfect english; I have a degree.
“The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.“
PS: Don't eat poop, just don't let the idea of it stop you from living life to its fullest.
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08-03-2020, 08:15 AM #49
What are your goals? Most people in the military think reservists are gay. They are mostly weekend warriors (nothing wrong with that if it’s your goal), and don’t see real combat when “deployed”, as they are mostly “building schools and hospitals, training local peacekeepers, or teaching local farmers more efficient farming techniques and better ways to use of their land“. Even most infantry grunts in the military don’t see serious action, it’s probably mostly driving over IEDs and engaging enemy snipers taking potshots. If you’re looking for serious experience or combat I’d go SOF (Rangers are pretty based), but there’s an obvious risk and your age may hold you back unless you’re a PT god.
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08-03-2020, 08:18 AM #50
I have thought about it but don't think it would be worth it. Pay seems decent, until you realized your real job isn't paying you those two weeks a year. And the retirement benefits for reservists isn't that great.
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08-03-2020, 08:29 AM #51
Absolutely worth pointing out. We are not at war and haven’t been for a long time. Even SF/SOF are not being engaged, or engaging nearly what people would believe.
If you want to do something like this, keep in mind there are other ore-prequisites, (minimum rank, MOS IAT/BOLCA/B complete, airborne completion, PT score (as you mentioned), etc.)
When I joined (in 2003), they were awarding contracts for SOF positions straight out of boot camp, but I doubt that is a thing now. Of course I could be wrong.I only read thread titles and my own posts.
cVc (OIF/OEF): *Retired*
Sorry for perfect english; I have a degree.
“The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.“
PS: Don't eat poop, just don't let the idea of it stop you from living life to its fullest.
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08-03-2020, 08:48 AM #52
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08-03-2020, 08:58 AM #53
Dude there is absolutely no point in going to basic training if you're going to be a physician. Being in the medical corps is way different than being a regular army officer. Being in the reserves is way different than being active duty.
As a reservist physician you'll just basically show up once a month and do physicals on the weekend, in uniform, for less pay.
If you join now and become a combat medic you'll have to deploy a bunch which slows down school, the pay is ****, no one gives a **** if their doctor was prior enlisted, and it will be a pain in the ass to commission if you're already enlisted.
I dont know why everyone has this stupid idea that they need the enlisted to get respect or some dumb ****.
Source prior enlisted air force, commissioning in the reserves.
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08-03-2020, 11:22 AM #54
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Hey bros thanks for the responses, I thought the thread would be dead.
Tbh I didn't even know they got paid for training so I was down for it even when I thought it was volunteering time.
Damn I really did think it would stand for something. I mean EMT is one of the most recommended pre-med jobs. I was thinking of getting my EMT first, working for a few months, and then enlisting as an e4 under 68W. I watched a combat medic on youtube who said they'll also fast track your AIT a bit since you're certified.
I wish but I missed my chance at active duty in my early 20's. Right now I'm staring down the barrel of 6-8 more years of college and I'm already 30 years old, so while I have a huge interest in the military, my age is pushing me bias towards advancing my career.
I made sure to know what to expect as a reservist vs. Active Duty and I'm cool with it, and I was shocked to learn you even get paid at all.
Thanks for the insight. I'm going to look more into Air Force reserves, I just have a fixation on the army since my grandfather was an officer there. Were you active duty or reserve in the Army?
That last part describes me to a T. I had several people telling me to join the marine corp at 22 and I didn't listen, because I was too much of a depressed kunt at the time and didn't think I'd make it.
I really wanted to have the whole BCT experience, especially if it'll be the bulk of my training as a reserve soldier. If I can't swing it, then I'll definitely get involved post-college the way you said.
Thanks ironmanlet. FWIW I'm an undergrad right now surrounded by 18-22 year olds anyway, lol. And they're the social media whoring/video game loving types, I figure being around recruits would be more mature than that.
I've done my best to learn what the job is actually like, and tbh even the boring and annoying chit gets me excited. It's not like I'm doing much at home but in the reserve I can say I'm a part time soldier and in the military which sounds cool to me. I do alot of firearms training at home and I'd love to experience the more regimented stuff while also learning other things.
My biggest reason for making this thread is seeing if it's feasible to fit in the training and commitment without seriously derailing my education path. I read about some program for medical students that makes them exempt from deployment. That would be perfect because I heard of medical students who weren't in that program getting mobilization orders and that would be a nightmare.
I'm going to talk to a recruiter this week. Obviously service is important but I'd be lying if I said I'd like to be deployed and put my civ. life on hold, primarily because of my age.
The ideal would be to get my EMT and enlist to become a combat medic next summer. Then apparently I can do AIT the following summer to work around my school schedule.
I'm really honest about myself and don't gloat, I understand that active duty are higher caliber soldiers, so I'd like to see someone give me chit to joining the reserve considering my life history, I'm not having it. If I'm not trying to steal valor or pretend I'm a badass then that's straight high school chit IMO. Combat/active duty is really out of the question at this point because of school, but I found it interesting that there's SOF reserves.Last edited by CaliSuperSport; 08-03-2020 at 11:42 AM.
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08-03-2020, 11:27 AM #55
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08-03-2020, 12:07 PM #56
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08-03-2020, 12:08 PM #57
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08-03-2020, 02:20 PM #58
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08-03-2020, 02:34 PM #59
If you can swing it man, a military contract could absolutely enhance your current path. Despite some of the other posters in here say, I really don’t think it is an option because of your age.
Man, the military paid for my undergrad (directly) four times over. Indirectly through base pay even more so.
And now it is even paying for my grad degree.
Of course, all of this came with a cost that I started paying back in 2003. So that is the flip side.
First thing you have to do is talk to a recruiter. And by that I mean, explicitly state your intended goals to a recruiter. He will either entertain the idea, or not.I only read thread titles and my own posts.
cVc (OIF/OEF): *Retired*
Sorry for perfect english; I have a degree.
“The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.“
PS: Don't eat poop, just don't let the idea of it stop you from living life to its fullest.
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08-03-2020, 02:41 PM #60
Upside was I got my BA and MA paid for, while they actually paid me to go to school. I had health insurance for my family, for relatively cheap. I got a decent little paycheck on top of GI Bill benefits. I got a Purple Heart, so I have a free car tag the rest of my life. I am also 100% DAV, so I pay like $5 a year for my 2016 Camaro SS tag.
Downside was I got blown up inside a humvee by an IED, shot at, rocket attacks through walls, shot at people, punched people, wasn't sure if I would come home alive or in a body bag, nightmares on the reg, jacked up neck, constant pain, paranoia through the roof, DEFCON 4 all the time, but I get paid tho.Romans 3:23
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