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    Natty lifters you will never be big

    Natty lifters you will never be big in a t shirt and that's okay when it comes to being natty you only have to options Ethier be shredded but skinny in a large t shirt or or fat but big in a t shirt srs anyone who tells you can be big at single digit bodyfat while being natty is just lying to you

    The pros to being shredded
    1. Your face will look way better at a low bodyfat%
    2. You will have a full six pack not in good lighting in all the light even in the dark you will have a full visible six pack and you will have veins and striations
    3.you will look way bigger shirtless or in a medium t shirt
    4. Most women perfer guys that are lean than bloatmax
    5. Your cardiovascular performance will go up because you don't have weight slowing you down
    6. Your V taper will look way better because your waist is smaller

    Cons
    1.You will look flat because you don't have any fat on top of your muscles
    2. you will be weaker on all your lifts at a low bodyfat% compare to if you were at a higher bodyfat %
    3. You can't were XL tshirts as guys it's bad thing to were medium tshirts for some weird reason
    4. You actually won't weigh alot on the scale because in order to get to a low bodyfat% you have to lose alot weight than you think.
    5. Your measurement will go down if you had 20 inch arms at 15% and you were to cut down to 8% you will have shredded 18 inch arms
    6. You will have to eat clean 99% of the time in order to be shredded year round

    The pros to being bloatmax
    1. You can were XL tshirts
    2. You will be stronger at a higher bodyfat % than a low bodyfat %
    3. your measurements will go up at a higher bodyfat% you will have 20% arms and at a low bodyfat % you have shredded 18 inch arms
    4. You can eat whatever you want because staying at a higher bodyfat % is not hard to maintain year round

    Cons
    1. You look like crap shirtless because the fat cover your definition this why someone at a low bodyfat% is always going to look way bigger than you shirtless even tho they weigh less than you
    2.your face will be bloated
    3. You will not have Abs or viens or striations
    4.your cardiovascular performance will go down because your weight will slow you down
    5. Your waist will be bigger which will ruin your V taper
    6. Most women not all women but most do not like the bloatmax look

    And you need to decide as a natty lifter which look looks better to you me personally I like the shredded look way more than the bloatmax look but to each there own
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    Hate to agree with this douchebag but not wrong for most average natties

    Best place to be is around 13%, more shredded than 99.9% of population, visible abs, but doesn't look weak in clothes.
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    Have been thinking about this movie the last 2 days. GOAT movie. I’ll probably get smashed and watch it this weekend. Saw an early screener of it before it was cut for regular theatrical release.

    On spread with you most likely and on recharge but can you make a version of this that ends after the book hits the ground without the book title? so I can send my friends in a group chat who don’t misc when it’s deserved?
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    Feelsbadman Why must you destroy our dreams you kunt
    I'm just telling you the truth if you to be 200lbs shredded at 5'8 natty you are just waste your time trying to do that natty you need to go on gear for that
    5'8 180lbs shredded can be achieved naturally but you have to be training properly for at least ten years to get there
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    Originally Posted by AlexSays View Post
    Hate to agree with this douchebag but not wrong for most average natties

    Best place to be is around 13%, more shredded than 99.9% of population, visible abs, but doesn't look weak in clothes.
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    The fact that you’re running sarms and making such threads aside

    100% of Instagram fitness nerds aren’t natty. That’s the ultimate bodybuilding blackpill no one wants to discuss because the supplement industry endorsed by them relies on delusional natties to buy thinking it will make them look at least half as good as the techies
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    The fact that you’re running sarms and making such threads aside

    100% of Instagram fitness nerds aren’t natty. That’s the ultimate bodybuilding blackpill no one wants to discuss because the supplement industry endorsed by them relies on delusional natties to buy thinking it will make them look at least half as good as the techies
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    Lol if you seriously don't think this is isnt achievable natty
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    Have been thinking about this movie the last 2 days. GOAT movie. I’ll probably get smashed and watch it this weekend. Saw an early screener of it before it was cut for regular theatrical release.

    On spread with you most likely and on recharge but can you make a version of this that ends after the book hits the ground without the book title? so I can send my friends in a group chat who don’t misc when it’s deserved?
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    You rock. Reps will be coming your way when I can. You’re a master with these gifs. Forever on spread lol
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    Originally Posted by quadfecta View Post
    And yet you talk game like you’re more conditioned than the pros

    Doesn’t sound very natty
    Gear will not make you shredded srs you take all the gear in the world but at the end of the day if your nutrition is crap you will always look like crap
    The key to stay shredded year round

    This why I always say the key to staying shredded year round is to not diet the guys and girls that are shredded year round don't diet because they are able to stick with their nutrition plan forever not for 3 months or 5 years but forever
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    Originally Posted by George2100 View Post
    Uhhh I just wear medium shirts and people think I’m “big” lol it’s all about illusions
    Exactly natty bodybuilding is about the illusion of looking way bigger than you actually because when you are at a super low bodyfat % your muscles pop out more they look bigger and your waist gets smaller to give you the illusion of a better V taper
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