Is there actually evidence that masks work? (srs)

[roc430]

To preface, I wear a mask out and am required to at work (I work in a hospital directly with covid patients).

I’m genially curious if there is more than just one legit study confirming that masks prevent the spread of the virus. Back in feb/March the WHO was saying that masks don’t work, so what suddenly changed?

I’ve noticed people are quick to chit on that recent viral video that got banned everywhere but are we forgetting the misinformation that was hastily spread at the “peak” of the virus in the states?

Not trying to start a anti mask/pro mask debate I’m just wondering.

Please only cite articles idgaf about opinions unless you are a doctor and have experience with the virus.

[otisthebat]

Masks don’t keep you from getting the virus, they reduce the airborne particles that leave your mouth when speaking, breathing, and coughing.

[lsiberian]

Here you go.

********************/incerto/the-masks...e-7de897b517b7

[ImpressiveGainz]

Before this scamdemic, there were lots of studies supporting both positions (masks work vs. don’t work). It wasn’t until Fraudci backtracked and said we need to wear masks that all “masks are ineffective” studies were either scrubbed from the Internet or labeled as bogus.

So...I dunno. The fact none of the elites wear them except when on camera tells me there’s a lot more to the story.

[Hypernation]

Yes. However most “normal citizens” are too stupid to figure out scientific articles/journals.

[roc430]

See table 1

https://erj.ersjournals.com/content/...003.01260-2020

Thank you will read

[N0rds]

“Nonpharmaceutical Measures for Pandemic Influenza in Nonhealthcare Settings—Personal Protective and Environmental Measures.” Published in: “Emerging Infectious Diseases, Vol.26, No. 5, May 2020.” (That journal is published by the CDC.)

I quote from the abstract: “Here, we review the evidence base on the effectiveness of nonpharmaceutical personal protective measures and environmental hygiene measures in non-healthcare settings and discuss their potential inclusion in pandemic plans. Although mechanistic studies[*] support the potential effect of hand hygiene or face masks, evidence from 14 randomized controlled trials of these measures did not support a substantial effect on transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza. We similarly found limited evidence on the effectiveness of improved hygiene and environmental cleaning.”

Here are quotes from pages 970-972 of the review: “In our systematic review, we identified 10 RCTs [randomized controlled trials] that reported estimates of the effectiveness of face masks in reducing laboratory-confirmed influenza virus infections in the community from literature published during 1946–July 27, 2018. In pooled analysis, we found no significant reduction in influenza transmission with the use of face masks…”

“Disposable medical masks (also known as surgical masks) are loose-fitting devices that were designed to be worn by medical personnel to protect accidental contamination of patient wounds, and to protect the wearer against splashes or sprays of bodily fluids… There is limited evidence for their effectiveness in preventing influenza virus transmission either when worn by the infected person for source control or when worn by uninfected persons to reduce exposure. Our systematic review found no significant effect of face masks on transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza.”

“In this review, we did not find evidence to support a protective effect of personal protective measures or environmental measures in reducing influenza transmission.”
“We did not find evidence that surgical-type face masks are effective in reducing laboratory-confirmed influenza transmission, either when worn by infected persons (source control) or by persons in the general community to reduce their susceptibility…”
[*] In case you want to quibble about the value of what the authors refer to as “mechanistic studies,” the authors are correctly setting those studies off to the side, in favor of the material they preferred to examine: randomized controlled trials—which are widely considered to be more valuable, relevant, and meaningful.
So there you have it.
Your science.

Take off your masks. Governors and mayors and presidents and prime ministers, cancel the orders to wear masks. You’re non-scientific. In the extreme.

SOURCE:
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/pdfs/19-0994.pdf

[Ramoneb87]

WHO and Fauci knowingly lied when they said that masks don't work. There was a serious supply shortage with China among others including individuals stock piling and hoarding PPE equipment. Medical profesionals were being forced to either go without masks or re use them. They lied to us for what they believed was the greater good, so that we wouldn't add to the PPE/mask shortages.

The effectiveness of masks is obvious, they were simply hoping enough people would be dumb enough to believe their BS because they are authority figures. Really makes you wonder about the who, what, and why of the lies we are being told now for the supposed greater good

[Notanalt2]

73 year old Democrat representative not wearing a mask. (htt ps://ww w.twitter.co m/DC_Draino/status/1287536937398685697) That should answer your question.

[ViolentZ]

To preface, I wear a mask out and am required to at work (I work in a hospital directly with covid patients).

I’m genially curious if there is more than just one legit study confirming that masks prevent the spread of the virus. Back in feb/March the WHO was saying that masks don’t work, so what suddenly changed?

I’ve noticed people are quick to chit on that recent viral video that got banned everywhere but are we forgetting the misinformation that was hastily spread at the “peak” of the virus in the states?

Not trying to start a anti mask/pro mask debate I’m just wondering.

Please only cite articles idgaf about opinions unless you are a doctor and have experience with the virus.

https://twitter.com/DrZoeHyde/status...36306979188736

[stewartrochet]

Yes, there is a reason China went and bought up all the PPE on the planet before everyone else started scrambling for it.

[ltsOgre]

Doesn't matter. Masks are the new normal.

[roc430]

“Nonpharmaceutical Measures for Pandemic Influenza in Nonhealthcare Settings—Personal Protective and Environmental Measures.” Published in: “Emerging Infectious Diseases, Vol.26, No. 5, May 2020.” (That journal is published by the CDC.)

I quote from the abstract: “Here, we review the evidence base on the effectiveness of nonpharmaceutical personal protective measures and environmental hygiene measures in non-healthcare settings and discuss their potential inclusion in pandemic plans. Although mechanistic studies[*] support the potential effect of hand hygiene or face masks, evidence from 14 randomized controlled trials of these measures did not support a substantial effect on transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza. We similarly found limited evidence on the effectiveness of improved hygiene and environmental cleaning.”

Here are quotes from pages 970-972 of the review: “In our systematic review, we identified 10 RCTs [randomized controlled trials] that reported estimates of the effectiveness of face masks in reducing laboratory-confirmed influenza virus infections in the community from literature published during 1946–July 27, 2018. In pooled analysis, we found no significant reduction in influenza transmission with the use of face masks…”

“Disposable medical masks (also known as surgical masks) are loose-fitting devices that were designed to be worn by medical personnel to protect accidental contamination of patient wounds, and to protect the wearer against splashes or sprays of bodily fluids… There is limited evidence for their effectiveness in preventing influenza virus transmission either when worn by the infected person for source control or when worn by uninfected persons to reduce exposure. Our systematic review found no significant effect of face masks on transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza.”

“In this review, we did not find evidence to support a protective effect of personal protective measures or environmental measures in reducing influenza transmission.”
“We did not find evidence that surgical-type face masks are effective in reducing laboratory-confirmed influenza transmission, either when worn by infected persons (source control) or by persons in the general community to reduce their susceptibility…”
[*] In case you want to quibble about the value of what the authors refer to as “mechanistic studies,” the authors are correctly setting those studies off to the side, in favor of the material they preferred to examine: randomized controlled trials—which are widely considered to be more valuable, relevant, and meaningful.
So there you have it.
Your science.

Take off your masks. Governors and mayors and presidents and prime ministers, cancel the orders to wear masks. You’re non-scientific. In the extreme.

SOURCE:
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/pdfs/19-0994.pdf

Interesting

[z4v4]

Lol @ "I work directly with covid patients in a hospital, but instead of asking hospital docs about the efficacy of masks, let me ask random partisans on the misc."

[nin-com-poop]

Lol @ "I work directly with covid patients in a hospital, but instead of asking hospital docs about the efficacy of masks, let me ask random partisans on the misc."

Yeah because doctors know everything??

[davik]

Lol @ "I work directly with covid patients in a hospital, but instead of asking hospital docs about the efficacy of masks, let me ask random partisans on the misc."

yeah tell work people you doubt the almighty mask

[Heisman2]

Didn't read the replies, but there is tons of evidence that masks work for public health purposes: https://rs-delve.github.io/addenda/2...ks-update.html

[Seatard]

Lol @ "I work directly with covid patients in a hospital, but instead of asking hospital docs about the efficacy of masks, let me ask random partisans on the misc."

He's going to bring new and exciting facts from the misc to work tomorrow and set those fukkers straight.

[GaloisTheory]

Interesting

His post is a complete misrepresentation of what they actually studied. The study was a review non pharmaceutical interventions (NPI), which is not on the same as the effectiveness of masks. They found asking people who shared households (one of the studies was a bunch of Muslims literally packed in tents together) to wear masks wasn't effective at stopping influenza. That's not surprising since they share a home and up to half the people in the masks groups reported not wearing their masks most of the time. Funnily enough, positive results were found who reported wearing their masks most of the time.

From one of the household studies,

"Intent-to-treat analysis showed no significant difference in the relative risk of ILI in the mask use groups compared with the control group; however, <50% of those in the mask use groups reported wearing masks most of the time. Adherence to mask use was associated with a significantly reduced risk of ILI-associated infection. We concluded that household use of masks is associated with low adherence and is ineffective in controlling seasonal ILI. If adherence were greater, mask use might reduce transmission during a severe influenza pandemic."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2662657/

But they can't conclude it's an effective NPI if people don't actually wear them, lol. Not to mention this isn't even an influenza virus.

[401Delta]

Masks definitely work. I've been wearing pantyhose pulled down over my face and it startles people everytime.

[MyLastSerenade]

My biggest concern is the possible increase in criticism of the type of mask. The pro mask virtue signal will eventually run out because everyone is going to need their pedestal raised.

[z4v4]

Yeah because doctors know everything??

They tend to know more about these things than random idiots.

yeah tell work people you doubt the almighty mask

Well, if you pop off like an idiot it probably won't be too well-received, but if you ask a genuine question, you'll typically get a genuine answer.

[roc430]

His post is a complete misrepresentation of what they actually studied. The study was a review non pharmaceutical interventions (NPI), which is not on the same as the effectiveness of masks. They found asking people who shared households (one of the studies was a bunch of Muslims literally packed in tents together) to wear masks wasn't effective at stopping influenza. That's not surprising since they share a home and up to half the people in the masks groups reported not wearing their masks most of the time. Funnily enough, positive results were found who reported wearing their masks most of the time.

From one of the household studies,

"Intent-to-treat analysis showed no significant difference in the relative risk of ILI in the mask use groups compared with the control group; however, <50% of those in the mask use groups reported wearing masks most of the time. Adherence to mask use was associated with a significantly reduced risk of ILI-associated infection. We concluded that household use of masks is associated with low adherence and is ineffective in controlling seasonal ILI. If adherence were greater, mask use might reduce transmission during a severe influenza pandemic."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2662657/

But they can't conclude it's an effective NPI if people don't actually wear them, lol. Not to mention this isn't even an influenza virus.

Got it. Thanks for the clarification

[rgnx]

See table 1

https://erj.ersjournals.com/content/...003.01260-2020

How about you actually read studies that don't fit the MSM agenda and narrative, like the CDC study posted right below yours. You cherry picking low IQ idiot.

[BuckNakedinBama]

OP, depends on what you mean by "work." Are masks 100% effective at stopping the wearer from getting COVID-19 from airborne particles? No.

Do masks stop SOME airborne particles of COVID-19 from being expelled into the air away from the wearer during talking/coughing/sneezing? Yes.



This is the same stupid **** with certain therapeutics. Some people think they don't "work" because they aren't 100% effective 100% of the time. That's an asinine requirement to put on something in order to find that it is viable and worthwhile.

[roc430]

Lol @ "I work directly with covid patients in a hospital, but instead of asking hospital docs about the efficacy of masks, let me ask random partisans on the misc."

Doctors also have biases and different ways they like to treat their patients. I see it in the different ways they treat these covid patients. The pulmonologists at our hospital rotate weekly and they each have a different treatment plan for their patients than the pulmonologist the week before had. Some also have different opinions than the infectious disease docs in regards to the virus which sometimes causes issues with their isolation status.

I am simply looking for studies proving/disproving the effectiveness of masks to further educate myself I don’t see what your issue is with that

[Heisman2]

Doctors also have biases and different ways they like to treat their patients. I see it in the different ways they treat these covid patients. The pulmonologists at our hospital rotate weekly and they each have a different treatment plan for their patients than the pulmonologist the week before had. Some also have different opinions than the infectious disease docs in regards to the virus which sometimes causes issues with their isolation status.

I am simply looking for studies proving/disproving the effectiveness of masks to further educate myself I don’t see what your issue is with that

I posted this above but if this doesn't convince you let me know why and I'll try to elaborate further https://rs-delve.github.io/addenda/2...ks-update.html

[Fishman15]

If masks work so well, why hasn't the govt ever mandated them during the flu season? Or even recommended them to be worn...

[Trapstar4.4]

If masks work so well, why hasn't the govt ever mandated them during the flu season?

Why would they do that when there is a vaccine available ? Vaccine > mask

Your argument wouldnt ever work on any level

[FatBallz]

The only evidence that is needed is that Fauci said so. He is all knowing and all of us mere mortals shall not question him.