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    Exclamation Prius battery report is in, is tour over?

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    Thats why you don't buy hybrids, bb. Now just imagine a full EV.

    ICE can get 200k easy, 500k on the same engine and tranny when maintenance is done to the T. Cost to fix is also less since mechanics have all the tools and are readily available.
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    Originally Posted by tunafishha View Post
    Thats why you don't buy hybrids, bb. Now just imagine a full EV.

    ICE can get 200k easy, 500k on the same engine and tranny when maintenance is done to the T.
    Wrong, go pick up a cheap one from the junkyard
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    Originally Posted by blazenbb View Post
    Wrong, go pick up a cheap one from the junkyard
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    Originally Posted by tunafishha View Post
    Thats why you don't buy hybrids, bb. Now just imagine a full EV.

    ICE can get 200k easy, 500k on the same engine and tranny when maintenance is done to the T. Cost to fix is also less since mechanics have all the tools and are readily available.
    I got it used at 66k miles for $9,000. Wouldn't say 183K and counting miles was bad with no other issues to speak of and in theory another 90k to go if there is 30% of the battery life left although I'm not sure it will play out that way

    greenbean currently offers a 5 yr warrently battery/install for $1500, a new battery + install from toyota is around 5k
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    Originally Posted by PITA21 View Post
    I got it used at 66k miles for $9,000. Wouldn't say 183K and counting miles was bad with no other issues to speak of and in theory another 90k to go if there is 30% of the battery life left although I'm not sure it will play out that way

    greenbean currently offers a 5 yr warrently battery/install for $1500, a new battery + install from toyota is around 5k
    You could also only replace specific cells like 6-8 for a fraction
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    Originally Posted by blazenbb View Post
    You could also only replace specific cells like 6-8 for a fraction
    Do you know the average voltage range for the cells and what drop threshold will trigger the code? cant seem to find any info on the internet
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    doesn't look too hard to replace

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    i am actually pretty impressed. I am thinking of buying my wife a used lexus ct200h (same drivetrain as pruis) with 40k on it for her commute to school.
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    Originally Posted by MFarrar74 View Post
    i am actually pretty impressed. I am thinking of buying my wife a used lexus ct200h (same drivetrain as pruis) with 40k on it for her commute to school.
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    Toyota dealer battery is $2200 wholesale with a $1200 core charge. Do the labor yourself. Hardest part is lifting the battery out and in and you can do it with a friend. There are a billion videos on Youtube how to do it. The last one I changed 2 weeks ago for a customer was a $3500 bill. Well worth it imo as long as the rest of the car has been maintained.
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    I'd be wary to buy a hybrid. You have both a ICE engine and all the components to deal with on that side, and then you have the EV side, with all those compeonents. Not to mention they systems put in place to make them work together. Basically, 3 systems that can go wrong. Another aspect is the way the Prius is built, even if it just had a gas engine it could get 35mpg+ anyways. Gas isn't that expensive. The savings you get at the pump is nullified by the battery cost. I think they say that you start breaking even with savings when fuel prices are a little over $3/gal.

    OP you might as well replace the battery. As it's capacity drops, it speeds up. Eventually it's going to have running problems. Or sell it to Carvana. They are absolute idiots and don't consider that aspect when they buy the car.

    Just be glad it isn't a Leaf. About $78K to replace one of those batteries and you are lucky to make it to 100K, and only the dealer can do it because the battery can only be sold through the dealer and has to be installed there due to registration, so no options.
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    Been trying to tell everyone this for years, EVs become a very expensive paper weight at 100k miles. That's if you motor and transmission can even last that long.

    Hybrids aren't as bad but still like putting in a used motor, cost wise
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    Originally Posted by dannyg1217 View Post
    Been trying to tell everyone this for years, EVs become a very expensive paper weight at 100k miles. That's if you motor and transmission can even last that long.

    Hybrids aren't as bad but still like putting in a used motor, cost wise
    Nonsense. Hybrid and EV batteries are insanely reliable and we're at a point now where transmissions are more expensive to replace and prices are only going down.


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    Originally Posted by tng83 View Post
    Nonsense. Hybrid and EV batteries are insanely reliable and we're at a point now where transmissions are more expensive to replace and prices are only going down.


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    what, do you have any idea how batteries even work? They have a limited number of charge cycles. The battery will absolutely die after 100k miles or so for an EV, and worth mentioning they degrade the entire time. So by endorsing of life they have about 30% of their original capacity.

    Hybrids hold on longer because they're not the sole means of providing energy. I work with batteries in the utility industry, I get paid to study them.

    Also with newer EVs they install the batteries along the length of the floor of the car, it's not some simple unit you swap out, they will have to dissemble a lot of the car.
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    Originally Posted by dannyg1217 View Post
    what, do you have any idea how batteries even work? They have a limited number of charge cycles. The battery will absolutely die after 100k miles or so for an EV, and worth mentioning they degrade the entire time. So by endorsing of life they have about 30% of their original capacity.

    Hybrids hold on longer because they're not the sole means of providing energy. I work with batteries in the utility industry, I get paid to study them.

    Also with newer EVs they install the batteries along the length of the floor of the car, it's not some simple unit you swap out, they will have to dissemble a lot of the car.
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