Ashes of Creation - MMO

[R3L3NTL3SS]

sorry boyo, WoW effectively and thoroughly dominated the mmo genre then proceed to scorch the earth. no other mmo is allowed to prosper .

Sad since WoW is so god damn overplayed at this point 15 years later.

I wish Blizzard would give us a Diablo MMO.

[kr1kit]

Sad since WoW is so god damn overplayed at this point 15 years later.

I wish Blizzard would give us a Diablo MMO.

At this point Blizzard has taken so many of Diablos abilities and other themes and put them into WoW, so that a Diablo MMO would feel far too much like WoW, just darker.

My dream has always been a Starcraft MMO.

[Suit]

Sad since WoW is so god damn overplayed at this point 15 years later.

I wish Blizzard would give us a Diablo MMO.

Y'all need to wake up.

Blizzard literally hasn't had an original idea since Warcraft 3, Starcraft:BW and Diablo 2.

Not a single person who made those three titles exists at Blizzard. They left and made their own companies or joined indies.

They actually can not even remake the games. Look what happened to WC3. Broken to hell and back.


Stop waiting for and relying on these old school big companies to do something great and wonderous again. They literally are riding off reputation and work from 20 years ago.


No, stupid ass overwatch is not original. It is called Team Fortress 2.

[KramericaInd]

Y'all need to wake up.

Blizzard literally hasn't had an original idea since Warcraft 3, Starcraft:BW and Diablo 2.

Not a single person who made those three titles exists at Blizzard. They left and made their own companies or joined indies.

They actually can not even remake the games. Look what happened to WC3. Broken to hell and back.


Stop waiting for and relying on these old school big companies to do something great and wonderous again. They literally are riding off reputation and work from 20 years ago.


No, stupid ass overwatch is not original. It is called Team Fortress 2.

Ok it's been 20 years and everyone has left so where are the good mmo RPGs lol?

[Aristotelian]

Y'all need to wake up.

Blizzard literally hasn't had an original idea since Warcraft 3, Starcraft:BW and Diablo 2.

Not a single person who made those three titles exists at Blizzard. They left and made their own companies or joined indies.

They actually can not even remake the games. Look what happened to WC3. Broken to hell and back.


Stop waiting for and relying on these old school big companies to do something great and wonderous again. They literally are riding off reputation and work from 20 years ago.


No, stupid ass overwatch is not original. It is called Team Fortress 2.

*applause*, but don't mistake the "wishing there would be a Diablo or Starcraft universe MMO" with "thinking Blizzard still has what it takes".

You could tell from Starcraft 2's release that there was a nail in the coffin - they alienated so much of the BW player base. By Diablo 3 - it was clear they were just trying to optimize mass appeal; long gone was any attempt to make a game as immersive as Diablo 2, or to create the moments we know and love from Starcraft and BW.

But just because people are docile and stick to games which they have invested heavy amounts of hours into, doesn't mean there is no appetite out there for a good/social MMO again @kramericaind.

The question is: will this be the one? And only time will tell, though it looks promising already.

[BroncManiac]

Looks interesting. I completely missed the WOW era. Never even played it. Hoping to get into a MMO that has the epicness of WOW.

[R3L3NTL3SS]

My dream has always been a Starcraft MMO.

I'd be 100% down with that too.
Its obvious that Blizzard has figured out the MMO formula better than anyone else. If they took it and applied it to one of their old IP's like Diablo or Starcraft they would be rolling in the fking money on another level all over again.

[drvillain]

I'd be 100% down with that too.
Its obvious that Blizzard has figured out the MMO formula better than anyone else. If they took it and applied it to one of their old IP's like Diablo or Starcraft they would be rolling in the fking money on another level all over again.

negged for life

[R3L3NTL3SS]

negged for life

Truth hurts. There's no other MMO that has been close to being in the same league as WoW's success.

[drvillain]

Truth hurts. There's no other MMO that has been close to being in the same league as WoW's success.

I agree, but we already have so many WOW re skins that blatantly copied that formula.

[Aristotelian]

Truth hurts. There's no other MMO that has been close to being in the same league as WoW's success.

Monetary success? Sure.

But the best MMORPG in history is, beyond a shadow of a doubt, Everquest. WoW is the "casual offspring" of that game, so mass appeal is obvious. But quality of games != "which sells the most". There's a reason why Everquest will always be remembered as the pioneering MMORPG of this type.

[R3L3NTL3SS]

I agree, but we already have so many WOW re skins that blatantly copied that formula.

I don't disagree. I don't even bother keeping up with the MMO genre anymore. It's all WoW clones or just trash for other reasons.
Just feels like the genre is just done. Except for Blizzard milking WoW for all they can. I mean, they've somehow managed to convince people to literally pay to play the 15 year old version of the game again which is insane to me...so I guess at this rate they'll manage to convince people to keep doing it for another 15 years.

[Suit]

Ok it's been 20 years and everyone has left so where are the good mmo RPGs lol?

https://mmos.com/gamelist

Order it by year.

[KramericaInd]

Monetary success? Sure.

But the best MMORPG in history is, beyond a shadow of a doubt, Everquest. WoW is the "casual offspring" of that game, so mass appeal is obvious. But quality of games != "which sells the most". There's a reason why Everquest will always be remembered as the pioneering MMORPG of this type.

Ngl I've never played EverQuest but I'm 99.9% it's hot garbage.

[nn586]

Game looks very good for pre-alpha

For example, this is WoW at pre-alpha



And look how much has changed

[kr1kit]

I've never been someone who backs projects, but I am seriously tempted to buy one of the packages on the site that allows you alpha/beta access plus gametime/cosmetics because I simply don't want to wait to play the game, I want it nowww.

[tk217]

MMOs are dead.

[kr1kit]

MMOs are dead.

The subscription numbers of WoW and FF14 would disagree with that statement.

[drvillain]

I've never been someone who backs projects, but I am seriously tempted to buy one of the packages on the site that allows you alpha/beta access plus gametime/cosmetics because I simply don't want to wait to play the game, I want it nowww.

bruh I had the same idea til I looked at the pricing lol.

I think the pre alpha access when it was fresh was like $400+

[KramericaInd]

Only game I would have purchased pre alpha access would have been Warframe. Goat developers

[drvillain]

Anyone playing Black Desert Online? I know it's not AOC, but I need something to tide me over now

[kr1kit]

Anyone playing Black Desert Online? I know it's not AOC, but I need something to tide me over now

I bought it years ago but never got into it...

I don't know what exactly it was that threw me off, but it just didn't really appeal to me other than it's pretty graphics.

[drvillain]

I bought it years ago but never got into it...

I don't know what exactly it was that threw me off, but it just didn't really appeal to me other than it's pretty graphics.

I'm with ya, combined with a lot of people that say its P2W. Looks pretty vast though

[Aristotelian]

MMOs are dead.

No, and they never will be. Good MMOs are a thing of rarity and beauty, though.

[sooby]

im still going to be skeptical lol, mmos are just a chit genre overall

[nn586]

POE crew until release

[GovermentCheese]

This looks really good. Node system seems interesting. I watched that entire interview, and am really impressed with the creator. I'm hoping I can relive those SWG and DAoC vibes, because so far nothing i've played can compare. This and Camelot Unchained are the two i'll be waiting on

[sooby]

Anyone playing Black Desert Online? I know it's not AOC, but I need something to tide me over now

I was pretty heavily invested in Black Desert back in the day, think I have a level 62 or 63 character with mostly TET gear.

The end game just becomes a big grindfest, the game IMO is pay to win because people could can just buy coins to get their money up and value packs IMO are pretty much pay to win. The pvp is honestly pretty trash. Those two are probably the biggest turn offs for me when playing a game but if you can look past it I guess it's a pretty good game. Became too much of a chore for me to keep up with.


but now I think they have a pretty big exp event (could be wrong, just heard), and if you are into exploring the world and making lots of characters and levelling them, I guess it should keep you busy.

[TenEngineer]

That looks very interesting

[Brazzah]

It looks interesting and i'll surely try it seeing WoW is a fukin joke atm and the next xpac doesn't look interesting at all.

However bear in mind:

1) The new generation of gamers are total retards and have short attention spans, they want to play chit that doesn't require work or dedication. That's why battle royale games and chit like that are doing so well now.
2) This game, even if its good, will have a small niche community because WoW players are still too fanboyish/loyal to the brand and will automatically hate on it regardless of how good the game is.
3) There is still the risk of devs fuking it up and not releasing a good game.

Just stay realistic and go with the flow so you won't have to deal with massive disappointment in case the game sucks.