What are your thoughts on the Toyota 86'?

[UberGuyLOL]

Thinking about getting one as a daily driver. What are your thoughts?

It's sporty, relatively cheap, and pretty much exactly what I'm looking for.

[tunafishha]

Thinking about getting one as a daily driver. What are your thoughts?

It's sporty, relatively cheap, and pretty much exactly what I'm looking for.

Git a Miata instead.

[InPhase]

Good handler, crying out for an engine that's not a gutless POS.

They ruined it by using that garbage Subaru NA engine.

[savageoldman]

girls car

[DoragonKingu]

Only 86 I would get is the 86 Hakone Edition
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[1QWIK7]

Probably the dumbest car on the market today.

[Kewbrah]

girls car

Wouldn't get one myself, but have literally never seen a woman driving one in my life

[UberGuyLOL]

Probably the dumbest car on the market today.

explain

[akmerle]

It is their attempt at mimicking the Miata, and they still fail at it. Just get a Miata if you want a small coupe with low power that handles well.

Or do what the smart people do and buy the eco boost mustang. More size, more power, same price, and still has great handling.

[UberGuyLOL]

It is their attempt at mimicking the Miata, and they still fail at it. Just get a Miata if you want a small coupe with low power that handles well.

Or do what the smart people do and buy the eco boost mustang. More size, more power, same price, and still has great handling.

mustangs aren't reliable like the toyota

[KidGogeta]

owned one for 7 years, slow as balls but fun to beat the crap outta of it. Still miss it from time to time when i see some twisties coming up, might get a s2k or something later. If its a 2nd car I would go with s2k instead

Don't spend a bunch of money on unnecessary mods,

[QisGQ]

I have a 2014 FRS (monogram) and have thoroughly enjoyed it. Been waiting to see the 2nd generation stats/photos. Handles well but yes as its wide known not fast. I still like it though, gas mpg could be better, I average 22/23mpg. Haven't had any issues with it. A used one should be cheap.

[UberGuyLOL]

so ya'll think I should save up and get the maza miata mx 5?

[conspiracy5]

its just a smaller corolla.
toyota missed a golden opportunity, they could have put a turbo or a v6 engine but they really screwed it up.
when you drive this car, dont be surprised when normal sedans will overtake you on a straight line.

[RagnarChadbrok]

They're cool. The engine is sh*t, but it's about as fast and powerful as a Miata relative to weight. It's a "slow car fast" type of deal, and a beast in the corners. The main problem with it (besides POS interior) is that when you start modding it (FI), it just breaks. Everything breaks. The trans breaks, the rods and pistons go, the axles and driveshaft snap, the clutch slips, etc. You basically have to upgrade the whole car just to supercharge it, which makes it an awful value proposition compared to something like a Camaro or M240i

[quadsbro]

Its great if you need to daily and still want to the do the occasional track days.

If weekend or 2nd car, get a Miata instead. S2k out of the three, but more of a splurge and harder to find clean examples.

[JayJ350]

The originals are a classic sports car but way overpriced these days, the type of car that originally only stood out for being a decent budget car but as the collector value went up the appeal dropped dramatically.

As for the new ones they are alright I guess, sort of a replacement for what the Celica used to be. If I was in the market for an entry level sports car I would consider it appealing, a lot better than some FWD Honda at least. It's probably a good first car type of thing, I bet they're cheap enough to run and insure these days. That said I would definitely buy a ND MX5 over one, the Miata is basically the same type of sports car but far more appealing to me.

[tunafishha]

so ya'll think I should save up and get the maza miata mx 5?

I would. The Mazda is about 400lbs lighter. And it got pretty good ratings. https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/mazda/mx-5-miata

They also look nicer imo. The 86 looks like its made out of cheap plastic. Whereas the Miata is pure Japanese sheet metal origami. Hiyah!

[RagnarChadbrok]

so ya'll think I should save up and get the maza miata mx 5?

It just depends dude

Need rear seats? Get the BRZ/Toyota. People will say they're useless but they add a ton of utility over a Miata if you don't have a second car. You can fit girls in the back, can fit men for brief trips, can easily fit a dog, and way more cargo capacity than a miata

[tunafishha]

It just depends dude

Need rear seats? Get the BRZ/Toyota. People will say they're useless but they add a ton of utility over a Miata if you don't have a second car. You can fit girls in the back, can fit men for brief trips, can easily fit a dog, and way more cargo capacity than a miata

The miata is a pure drivers car. Backseats add more weight. And with cars like this, your using purely for driving experience and not much else.

[Tommy W.]

I have one and had a Miata before it and a Porsche 911 Turbo before that.
911 was a good GT but below 90 mph was just no fun.
Miata had TERRIBLE body roll but my wife looked cute in it.
The 86 is a good compromise. Mine is track focused and I don’t use it on the street much.

For a daily driver none of the above cars are any good imo. Get a Honda Civic or something.

[RagnarChadbrok]

The miata is a pure drivers car. Backseats add more weight. And with cars like this, your using purely for driving experience and not much else.

I've driven both, have friends who own both. They're both pure driver's cars, both more raw and pure than even modern M2/3/whatevers. The BRZ is probably event more raw than the Miata, although I'd give the nod to Miata if you don't need rear seats simply because you can drop the top

[Tommy W.]

I've driven both, have friends who own both. They're both pure driver's cars, both more raw and pure than even modern M2/3/whatevers. The BRZ is probably event more raw than the Miata, although I'd give the nod to Miata if you don't need rear seats simply because you can drop the top

when I still had the Miata I drove a BRZ. After the first on-ramp I was sold and so was the Miata. The Miata is a great car it just depends what your priorities are.

If you change the suspension on the Miata then it’s a whole new world. The car comes alive. Should come from the factory like that

[JayJ350]

I wound up getting an A35 AMG as my daily

Not quite as quick as the A45 AMG, like 0.5 sec slower to 100km/h - but still 4.7 sec to that speed

If you want a fun daily, A35/CLA35 or the 45 variant is worth it

If you're getting an A class might as well just get a 35, the whole appeal of an expensive AMG is the V8. The 35 totally hits the high marks of what the 45 has to offer. That and really high powered 4 bangers usually aren't good in the long run.

[EnglishRay]

It is made as a nod to drift perfection. Made to handle like a god.

Been told it doesn't have enough bite to it though with a lacklustre engine.

The MPGs look chit considering it is rather slow too.

[JayJ350]

Good luck getting a V8 AMG across the majority of their sedan or coupe bodies moving forward

If you're buying a big Merc that shouldn't be a problem, A class has always been for people who gotta settle for the entry model. I mean it's a fine car don't get me wrong but it's the low-end Mercedes.

[JayJ350]

Like I said, unless you're buying S Class, G Class or the GT line, you're not getting a V8.

There wasn't a settle for an entry model here, had a bunch of models I could order and money wasn't the issue - fun daily driver that was available was the goal. Waiting 6 months for C63 wasn't interesting, and I don't have a family so SUVs are pointless.

Hey so long as you enjoy the car that's what matters. Any Mercedes is nice, always my top choice when it comes to luxury cars.

[nosirrahx]

Like I said, unless you're buying S Class, G Class or the GT line, you're not getting a V8.

Even then their days are numbered. You can make a V6 powerful but its going to be forced induction and the sound will be hit or miss.

What are your thoughts on the Toyota 86'?

More interested in the 400Z. If that ends up being a decently powerful manual I will probably buy one as a backup to my other cars.

The 86 looks like it will be a bit too underpowered to be really fun. It still likely will be a fun little car though, just not enough for most people.