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    Cool Trump giving DACA a road to citizenship - can anyone confirm or is this fake news?

    BREAKING: President Trump tells Telemundo’s @jdbalart he will sign an executive order on immigration that will include DACA in the coming weeks. #mtpdaily

    Trump: “One of the aspects of the bill is going to be DACA. We are going to have a road to citizenship.”


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    I assume this is fake?
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    he offered DACA amnesty in his first year, I don't see why not.
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    Originally Posted by Cleveland33 View Post
    he offered DACA amnesty in his first year, I don't see why not.
    Did he not fight with the Supreme Court for not letting him end DACA?

    Am I missing something? srs
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    Originally Posted by Dorich View Post
    Did he not fight with the Supreme Court for not letting him end DACA?

    Am I missing something? srs
    there are two roads to "ending" daca:

    1) end the program and kick all the people out of the country who came in with it
    2) end the program but let all the kids who came in with it become U.S. citizens (let them be "grandfathered" in)

    I think he's going the 2nd route. a lot of the kids who came in under DACA did so as infants/toddlers/small children, so the only home they know is the U.S...it would be bad optics for Trump to kick them out of the country to somewhere that is basically a foreign country to them, even though they are technically citizens of that other country.

    the most important lesson of all this is to really question who was responsible for the whole DACA program in the first place, basically letting kids grow up in a country thinking they are citizens of but every day not knowing when/if they'll be kicked out. it's stressful and actually cruel in my opinion. the fair thing to do would have been to deport them as children back to their home country when their illegal immigrant parents were caught, so that we didn't run the risk of playing with their life stability like we are doing at the moment.
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    Kushner probably had something to do with this.
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    Originally Posted by Cereal_Guy View Post
    there are two roads to "ending" daca:

    1) end the program and kick all the people out of the country who came in with it
    2) end the program but let all the kids who came in with it become U.S. citizens (let them be "grandfathered" in)

    I think he's going the 2nd route. a lot of the kids who came in under DACA did so as infants/toddlers/small children, so the only home they know is the U.S...it would be bad optics for Trump to kick them out of the country to somewhere that is basically a foreign country to them, even though they are technically citizens of that other country.

    the most important lesson of all this is to really question who was responsible for the whole DACA program in the first place, basically letting kids grow up in a country thinking they are citizens of but every day not knowing when/if they'll be kicked out. it's stressful and actually cruel in my opinion. the fair thing to do would have been to deport them as children back to their home country when their illegal immigrant parents were caught, so that we didn't run the risk of playing with their life stability like we are doing at the moment.
    What do you do with parents who are illegal citizens in that case? Because seperating kids from their parents is also far from ideal.
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    This is fake. Not gonna happen.
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    Only way I'd support it is if DACA is eliminated in conjunction with those already DACA recepients to be grandfathered in.
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    So if Trump backs DACA will you all praise that program?
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    It’s a battle he lost in court , and now for the people who have practically grown up here it’s the right thing to do.


    Or a vote buying scheme if he can pull it off by November



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    Originally Posted by Jaydawg08 View Post
    So if Trump backs DACA will you all praise that program?
    What he is doing isn’t exactly backing Daca
    It’s Time
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    Originally Posted by gachase21 View Post
    It’s a battle he lost in court , and now for the people who have practically grown up here it’s the right thing to do.


    Or a vote buying scheme if he can pull it off by November



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    It's not the right thing to do. You just encourage more illegals to bring their kids over going forward. Amnesty only begets more amnesty.
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    Originally Posted by gachase21 View Post
    What he is doing isn’t exactly backing Daca
    How? If he gives all of them the opportunity for citizenship, and most of them get it?

    This **** is fake news lmao. Or he's trolling people.
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    Originally Posted by DukeOfWoodBerry View Post
    It's not the right thing to do. You just encourage more illegals to bring their kids over going forward. Amnesty only begets more amnesty.
    This. Trump has been on the right path lately, he's not going to shift now.
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    lmfao stop listening to your ****ing moron son in law.
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    Originally Posted by ghostfacedup View Post
    This. Trump has been on the right path lately, he's not going to shift now.
    I don't trust Trump on the issue but there's no way he does this before the election. This is fake news.
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    lmfao stop listening to your ****ing moron son in law.
    Jared had nothing to do with this even if it's true, which I doubt.
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    lmfao stop listening to your ****ing moron son in law.
    I despise Jared Kushner.
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    Apparently this executive order is about "merit based" immigration which we don't need. That's a talking point to get more cheap labor for corporations. If Trump someone wins (doubtful) I expect him to be pretty chitty on immigration and definitely push a DACA amnesty.
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    I don't trust anything coming from Jose Balart. MSNBC constantly misrepresents things.
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    Originally Posted by TaeBoNinja View Post
    I don't trust anything coming from Jose Balart. MSNBC constantly misrepresents things.
    Exactly.
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    Originally Posted by DukeOfWoodBerry View Post
    Apparently this executive order is about "merit based" immigration which we don't need. That's a talking point to get more cheap labor for corporations. If Trump someone wins (doubtful) I expect him to be pretty chitty on immigration and definitely push a DACA amnesty.
    Just saw the clarification from the WH, so basically this.... https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48304975

    Which would be good news. Moving away from family ties and going back to how America used to handle immigration. Shouldn't you be happy? This would likely cut legal immigration in half and purge out leechs. The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 is no beumo.
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    Just saw the clarification from the WH, so basically this.... https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48304975

    Which would be good news. Moving away from family ties and going back to how America used to handle immigration. Shouldn't you be happy? This would likely cut legal immigration in half and purge out leechs. The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 is no beumo.
    If we had 1% unemployment, sure. But why the hell do we need ANY immigration right now? I guess it's ok.

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    There have been reports that his dimwit son in law has been trying to get an amnesty deal through Congress but Trump doesn’t have the authority to offer a pathway to amnesty in an executive order.
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    If I remember correctly, trump won on daca and could end it whenever he wants.

    This is a huge betrayal of his base.

    They’ll justify it like cucks.
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    Originally Posted by TaeBoNinja View Post
    Just saw the clarification from the WH, so basically this.... https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48304975

    Which would be good news. Moving away from family ties and going back to how America used to handle immigration. Shouldn't you be happy? This would likely cut legal immigration in half and purge out leechs. The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 is no beumo.
    We really need an extended pause to give workers more power and encourage assimilation (if it's possible) from the millions of immigrants and their kids over the past few decades because right now assimilation isn't happening and it's not even encouraged.

    It's better than what we have now, that's the best I can say.
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    It's not the right thing to do. You just encourage more illegals to bring their kids over going forward. Amnesty only begets more amnesty.

    Hence option 2
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    Originally Posted by DukeOfWoodBerry View Post
    We really need an extended pause to give workers more power and encourage assimilation (if it's possible) from the millions of immigrants and their kids over the past few decades because right now assimilation isn't happening and it's not even encouraged.

    It's better than what we have now, that's the best I can say.
    I don't disagree, but it's simply not possible for Trump to halt all immigration right now. The Dems and nearly all the GOP would be against him, along with the courts. The MSM would use it the court fight(because no way it goes through before Nov), and we would likely never even see it happen.

    Shifting from the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 is pretty big, and cuts the family ties part of immigration down significantly. This is something the Left has been good at the last 10-12 years....slowly changing things over time. The Right imo, want it all at once, which simply won't ever happen.
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