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    Is it possible for me to get 120 kg bodyweight with15 percent body fat natural?

    I'm 19 Years and compete in mma now I got an injury and can train only my upper body for 3 months. My dream is to have a physique like Francis ngannou. My current bodyweight is 95 kg 14 percent body fat height 1.90m bench press 130 kg. Is it possible for me to get a physique like the ngannou without steroids? I wasn't lifting that much in my life I did much more cardio based mma training.
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    Short answer no. Usually big guys have a lot more BF% than they think. You can get away with a lot of fat when you also have lots of muscle - you don't look sloppy but you are still high BF%.

    There are various articles about realistic expectations of lean body mass by people like Lyle McDonald, Greg Nuckols and Martin Berkhan which could be worth searching out.
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    prove them wrong, gainer. You are tall, at 190 you just might.
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    Can I look like Dana Linn Bailey or Paige Hathaway naturally or lift like Susan Salazar naturally? No. Same goes for 6’2 260lbs and 15%

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    Originally Posted by snailsrus View Post
    Can I look like Dana Linn Bailey or Paige Hathaway naturally or lift like Susan Salazar naturally? No. Same goes for 6’2 260lbs and 15%

    https://www.instagram.com/p/Bv1lQ7TH...d=74lrvxu7iolo
    This is not a realistic goal
    This kid is running the whole pharmacy.
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    Originally Posted by Ladiessman217 View Post
    This kid is running the whole pharmacy.
    Toothbrah, he's a miscer, never shy to admit he was on dat der creatine.
    Short cuts to success are often paved with lies.
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    Originally Posted by gbullock32 View Post
    Toothbrah, he's a miscer, never shy to admit he was on dat der creatine.
    No, people can't necessarily outright admit to things like this. Many have to, or are just pretending, to be natural. It's understandable, but unfortunate for the real naturals. And this applies anywhere on all social media forums and platforms.
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    Originally Posted by etet1919 View Post
    No, people can't necessarily outright admit to things like this. Many have to, or are just pretending, to be natural. It's understandable, but unfortunate for the real naturals. And this applies anywhere on all social media forums and platforms.
    he runs the bicycle section of a forum and I’ve known him for years, he openly admits it and he’s like 21 in that picture he’s like 20, he also used to get advice from my ex
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    Originally Posted by etet1919 View Post
    No, people can't necessarily outright admit to things like this. Many have to, or are just pretending, to be natural. It's understandable, but unfortunate for the real naturals. And this applies anywhere on all social media forums and platforms.
    Originally Posted by snailsrus View Post
    he runs the bicycle section of a forum and I’ve known him for years, he openly admits it and he’s like 21 in that picture he’s like 20, he also used to get advice from my ex
    Yep, he was using creative wording on these forums, but on other forums he just admits i; I respect that more than a fake natty.
    Short cuts to success are often paved with lies.
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    OP at 19 with proper training and diet its likely that you can get much bigger and stronger. It's unlikely that you will get to 120kg of body weight at 15% BF. Those numbers are similar to Arnold's body weight at his prime in the off season and its well documented that he was not natural. He was also very gifted. Set some goals to continue to make progress and enjoy the change.
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    Originally Posted by bayrider View Post
    OP at 19 with proper training and diet its likely that you can get much bigger and stronger. It's unlikely that you will get to 120kg of body weight at 15% BF. Those numbers are similar to Arnold's body weight at his prime in the off season and its well documented that he was not natural. He was also very gifted. Set some goals to continue to make progress and enjoy the change.
    I love Arnold, but I wonder what he would have looked like without the help? Would he (and his peers) have been as successful on or off the stage? I loved him in T2 and I loved his personality in the comedic roles he took on (in the movies).
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    Originally Posted by etet1919 View Post
    I love Arnold, but I wonder what he would have looked like without the help? Would he (and his peers) have been as successful on or off the stage? I loved him in T2 and I loved his personality in the comedic roles he took on (in the movies).
    His son looks a lot like him, and seems to be (last I looked) natty. Very good genetics, like Arnold but smaller, and a little less lean, but great proportions.
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    Originally Posted by gbullock32 View Post
    His son looks a lot like him, and seems to be (last I looked) natty. Very good genetics, like Arnold but smaller, and a little less lean, but great proportions.
    Arnold's son doesn't have his genetics. Not even close.
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    Originally Posted by Ladiessman217 View Post
    Arnold's son doesn't have his genetics. Not even close.
    His illegitimate son, not the one who looks like a patoato.


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    He's almost as big but he's not nearly as aesthetic
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    Originally Posted by alec935 View Post
    He's almost as big but he's not nearly as aesthetic
    lol...

    Taht literally means nothing since aesthetic means nothing but what the person using it means.

    He looks smaller, and possibly natty
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    Originally Posted by WolfRose7 View Post
    lol...

    Taht literally means nothing since aesthetic means nothing but what the person using it means.

    He looks smaller, and possibly natty
    Come on dude. Arnold is one the most handsome men in history. And that's a huge part of why he's the fitness industry's preeminent man.

    His son might blow everyone here out of the water, but he won't ever be the icon his father was.
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    Originally Posted by snailsrus View Post
    Can I look like Dana Linn Bailey or Paige Hathaway naturally or lift like Susan Salazar naturally? No. Same goes for 6’2 260lbs and 15%

    https://www.instagram.com/p/Bv1lQ7TH...d=74lrvxu7iolo
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