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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post


    And this is while the corruptlicans held the senate and executive. Once we reclaim the the house, senate and WH we can start getting things passed with little to no resistance from the diminishing, unappealing right.
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    Globalists are highly trained, very intelligent, and have taken over the US
    Corrected your thread title. "Leftists" and "Right Wing" are controlled by the Globalists, for the illusion of choice, and to keep you fighting with meaningless pawns on the chessboard instead of the controllers.

    Summary of an article from 1990 that was published by MIT Press:

    * The family, the school, the industry, the hospital, the prison are all DEAD. They're giving them their 'last rites' as we're speaking.

    * Most of them will be incorporated into the 'corporation' - wages will be even lower and even less substantial, because the 'bonus' so to speak will be more of a 'psychological' bonus.

    - * He admits that the whole corporate 'group session' is all meant as a conditioning game - it's meant so people get into fights over prestige - to encourage the 'dog-eats-dog' mentality as it is on the workplace.

    * In the future, there will be 'perpetual' learning - continuous exams and so on.

    * ID cards and electronic bracelets will monitor you day and night and WILL be able to prevent you from entering certain residential areas or (for instance) being able to leave the country.

    * In the 'hospitals', the doctor and patient relationship is to be abolished. The 'computer' will decide if you are a 'risk', and you will be quarantined.

    * Computers are central in all this - well, gee whiz.

    * Our 'economies' are only meant to be 'service economies' - all the production is in the Third World (well, that would be China, India - that have now grown ot be First World).

    * Some talk about ONE SINGLE CORPORATION that only has stockholders (think back to the movie Network with the guy who played Howard Beale)

    * You will be eternally in DEBT.

    * Convicted persons will get an electronic collar and be forced to stay at home during certain hours depending on their penalty. I guess they will flick you in front of a Project Natal-type device and 'reprogram you', but that's just something I added.

    * They want to break up the unions. And if the unions 'reject' this new society of 'control' - then something has to be done about them.

    * You will learn HOW TO SERVE the elite. That's in this French twit's own words: "It's up to them to discover what they're being made to serve".

    Oh, and I forget: it also talks about the Role-Based Access Control - everything you will be able to do on your computer will be regulated by role-based access control - what are YOU allowed to access, and at any given time they can revoke those rights. And this will count for EVERYTHING - not just your Internet, not just your computer, not just your access to data at work - it means your money, your social security, everything. They can make you just not EXIST. Think of The Net:

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    Originally Posted by LizzieTish View Post
    Corrected your thread title. "Leftists" and "Right Wing" are controlled by the Globalists, for the illusion of choice, and to keep you fighting with meaningless pawns on the chessboard instead of the controllers.

    Summary of an article from 1990 that was published by MIT Press:

    * The family, the school, the industry, the hospital, the prison are all DEAD. They're giving them their 'last rites' as we're speaking.

    * Most of them will be incorporated into the 'corporation' - wages will be even lower and even less substantial, because the 'bonus' so to speak will be more of a 'psychological' bonus.

    - * He admits that the whole corporate 'group session' is all meant as a conditioning game - it's meant so people get into fights over prestige - to encourage the 'dog-eats-dog' mentality as it is on the workplace.

    * In the future, there will be 'perpetual' learning - continuous exams and so on.

    * ID cards and electronic bracelets will monitor you day and night and WILL be able to prevent you from entering certain residential areas or (for instance) being able to leave the country.

    * In the 'hospitals', the doctor and patient relationship is to be abolished. The 'computer' will decide if you are a 'risk', and you will be quarantined.

    * Computers are central in all this - well, gee whiz.

    * Our 'economies' are only meant to be 'service economies' - all the production is in the Third World (well, that would be China, India - that have now grown ot be First World).

    * Some talk about ONE SINGLE CORPORATION that only has stockholders (think back to the movie Network with the guy who played Howard Beale)

    * You will be eternally in DEBT.

    * Convicted persons will get an electronic collar and be forced to stay at home during certain hours depending on their penalty. I guess they will flick you in front of a Project Natal-type device and 'reprogram you', but that's just something I added.

    * They want to break up the unions. And if the unions 'reject' this new society of 'control' - then something has to be done about them.

    * You will learn HOW TO SERVE the elite. That's in this French twit's own words: "It's up to them to discover what they're being made to serve".

    Oh, and I forget: it also talks about the Role-Based Access Control - everything you will be able to do on your computer will be regulated by role-based access control - what are YOU allowed to access, and at any given time they can revoke those rights. And this will count for EVERYTHING - not just your Internet, not just your computer, not just your access to data at work - it means your money, your social security, everything. They can make you just not EXIST. Think of The Net:

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    Unfortunately I'm going to have to correct it back, globalists cannot do this without their foot soldiers. Many leftists dont realize that in their insane desire to stick it to the right, that they're making their own future worse in the process.

    If we just call them globalists, then we're talking about only upper level people, since the bottom are unaware of the repercussions.

    You're right about every thing else. The future is bleak people. Tech will be used against everyone. It already is. It was built up to be an advantage to you, but it was always going to be used against you afterwards.

    The push for AI is to replace everyone eventually.

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    And this is while the corruptlicans held the senate and executive. Once we reclaim the the house, senate and WH we can start getting things passed with little to no resistance from the diminishing, unappealing right.


    Lol when the technocratic state decides theyve used you for their purpose, u will be crushed under the heel of power just like everyone else not realizing until the last moment when the boot is crushing down on your throat and your trachea collapses will u remember with regret your stances and the totalitarian utopia u have helped to usher in. Good game.
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    Originally Posted by lexbishop View Post
    Yeah?

    If you stand up for yourself and your bank or credit card stops doing business with you, where's your bank and credit card company?
    If you stand up for yourself and you are erased from the internet, where is your internet to communicate?
    If they want to take away your means of providing for yourself, how will you do that when the system removes you from it?

    DO YOU REALIZE THE NEXT PUSH IS TO ELIMINATE CASH? Even if you try to work within a cash system, when they remove you from the other system, the next push is to remove cash itself. You aren't even allowed to carry more than $10k of cash anyway legally, so good luck playing within the quickly disappearing cash system.
    If you stand your ground or stand up for yourself, where is your justice system?
    If you commit a crime in life, how much time do other groups do, and how much time do you do for similar crimes?
    Where are the gatekeepers' apologies and canceling? Are they ever really canceled or do they just walk into a new place shielded from controversy and repercussions?
    Where is your media?
    What is the state of your religions? Do you even have one anymore or is it a ****ing joke the world over?
    What do you even believe in anymore?
    Would your grandfather be proud of you, or call everyone pathetic?
    Corporations give incentive and affirmative action to those who underperformed while you grind and grind and grind... Give and give and give... Through taxes, welfare, generosity, cuck behavior in all forms of media. You're expected to kneel and kiss the feet of the gatekeepers and the mob.

    Have you ever seen that there's a group called the ADL that has a white population percentage by year for the US, and the ADL is still allowed to exist and is still a gatekeeper? Do you realize this is actual Genocide?

    Do you know that 85 million of the strongest and best people died in WW2 most of which were European natives, while OTHER events were propped as the most important takeaway from WW2, your deaths basically being a footnote?

    All of society is designed to embarrass and humiliate you. All women are traitorous non-loyal beings, worshipping only power. You've allowed them to turn your women against you, and turn to others for strength, and now the power structure is turning on your women.

    There is no spine, no backbone, no wherewithal. When people such as me speak, instead of agreeing you silence me, tear me down, embarrass me, or tell me everything is okay.

    It's not okay, it's pathetic, you're mostly being humiliated, and allowing it, instead of agreeing with me. Whether you care about group or group think or not is massively irrelevant. Whether you want to be left alone or not is massively irrelevant. You're part of this whether you like it or not, because you will be targeted eventually.

    Tick tock.
    I seriously think you're just spewing National Socialist view points right now. You've went full on black pilled and I'm seriously starting to doubt anyone can even save you at this point and you're one step away from entering Jewish Conspiracies. Take a chill pill and seriously really look around you. I live in Liberal Lala Land Canada and it seriously isn't that bad despite all of the constant Liberal stuff being pushed around. You only notice that Liberal crap on social Media and in some parts of Downtown. Our Conservative State Premier voted for mandatory masks when we eat out. He's not a far leftist is he now? He voted for more immigration from white countries and countries who have a history with France. So seriously stop with the Black Pilling garbage and look at it this way.

    1.First point you made was regarding banks and the internet. I was a vocal supporter of Trump on Facebook in 2016 and yet I was never censored or banned from Facebook. If anything I made friends and learned news ideas. All of the Right Wing commentators I watch and Libertarian commentators I watch on youtube are still out there kicking it and posting daily videos. So I'm failing to see what censorship you're on about. Yes, some platforms will ban right winger but usually all the person who got banned has to do is migrate to another platform. I don't support censorship and I will call it out but if Paul Joseph Watson still has a youtube channel I can rest assured that the gravity of the censorship is not what you make it out to be. In terms of banks, once again I was a vocal supporter of Trump and voted Conservative in Canada and yet banks still lick my feet when I walk in. I hold their shares and I keep my politics out of my business transactions. If one bank refuses me I'll simply walk to another bank and Sue the one that refused my business if they truly discriminated against me.

    2. Cash is disappearing? I seriously don't care about that point. I don't carry cash on me and don't see the point of cash Op. I work and get my paycheck deposited into my bank account. Why would I carry money on me in 2020 Op? Now I don't know much about your guys's laws in terms of self defense but here in Canada force is only allowed if its justified and reasonable so discuss with your city council and get a clearer answer as to what your local laws are. Regarding crime and punishment. I'm pretty sure African Americans do the most time in prison so that's a mute point.

    3. In terms of religion, I am personally not super religious but I do abide by a lot of their principles. The world is shifting towards Secularism and non-religiosity. It's not a bad thing and it allows folks to practice their religion in the freedom of their house. Politics should be a place of Secularism.
    As for women, I've said it many times stop chasing whores and you'll find that the world is full of nice women. I don't want a whore to respect me, I want a decent women to respect me. Quit copy pasting Incel forum opinions.

    4. 85 million of the best died? I'm failing to see the point here Op. Were they magically superior then us or do you think we are no good? Once again you're peddling National socialist talking points and I'm starting to think you're a closet National socialist. Tell me Op as a child of immigrant parents would you let me live among you? I voted conservative last time would that suffice for you? I tried serving my country but got rejected due to underlying minor asthma. Would that make me equal to you or would that get me a ticket to back to a home country that I've never lived in? Please elaborate on solutions instead of spewing garbage.

    I'm gonna end with this, while you're jerking yourself off with BlackPill garbage and nearing a mental state of decay I will keep pushing my ideas and my view point that the Far-Left is losing. Politics is local and a lot of people, especially those of Immigrants descent and African American background are waking up and voting accordingly and that is conservative. It might not be immediate but overtime you'll start seeing more and more people of color joining the ranks of the right. Is that what scares you Op? That people who don't look like you are capable of rational thinking? Seriously man go outside and look around you, its really not as bad as you make it out to be. A huge portion of America is still Republican. Politics is local.
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    I seriously think you're just spewing National Socialist view points right now. You've went full on black pilled and I'm seriously starting to doubt anyone can even save you at this point and you're one step away from entering Jewish Conspiracies. Take a chill pill and seriously really look around you. I live in Liberal Lala Land Canada and it seriously isn't that bad despite all of the constant Liberal stuff being pushed around. You only notice that Liberal crap on social Media and in some parts of Downtown. Our Conservative State Premier voted for mandatory masks when we eat out. He's not a far leftist is he now? He voted for more immigration from white countries and countries who have a history with France. So seriously stop with the Black Pilling garbage and look at it this way.

    1.First point you made was regarding banks and the internet. I was a vocal supporter of Trump on Facebook in 2016 and yet I was never censored or banned from Facebook. If anything I made friends and learned news ideas. All of the Right Wing commentators I watch and Libertarian commentators I watch on youtube are still out there kicking it and posting daily videos. So I'm failing to see what censorship you're on about. Yes, some platforms will ban right winger but usually all the person who got banned has to do is migrate to another platform. I don't support censorship and I will call it out but if Paul Joseph Watson still has a youtube channel I can rest assured that the gravity of the censorship is not what you make it out to be. In terms of banks, once again I was a vocal supporter of Trump and voted Conservative in Canada and yet banks still lick my feet when I walk in. I hold their shares and I keep my politics out of my business transactions. If one bank refuses me I'll simply walk to another bank and Sue the one that refused my business if they truly discriminated against me.

    2. Cash is disappearing? I seriously don't care about that point. I don't carry cash on me and don't see the point of cash Op. I work and get my paycheck deposited into my bank account. Why would I carry money on me in 2020 Op? Now I don't know much about your guys's laws in terms of self defense but here in Canada force is only allowed if its justified and reasonable so discuss with your city council and get a clearer answer as to what your local laws are. Regarding crime and punishment. I'm pretty sure African Americans do the most time in prison so that's a mute point.

    3. In terms of religion, I am personally not super religious but I do abide by a lot of their principles. The world is shifting towards Secularism and non-religiosity. It's not a bad thing and it allows folks to practice their religion in the freedom of their house. Politics should be a place of Secularism.
    As for women, I've said it many times stop chasing whores and you'll find that the world is full of nice women. I don't want a whore to respect me, I want a decent women to respect me. Quit copy pasting Incel forum opinions.

    4. 85 million of the best died? I'm failing to see the point here Op. Were they magically superior then us or do you think we are no good? Once again you're peddling National socialist talking points and I'm starting to think you're a closet National socialist. Tell me Op as a child of immigrant parents would you let me live among you? I voted conservative last time would that suffice for you? I tried serving my country but got rejected due to underlying minor asthma. Would that make me equal to you or would that get me a ticket to back to a home country that I've never lived in? Please elaborate on solutions instead of spewing garbage.

    I'm gonna end with this, while you're jerking yourself off with BlackPill garbage and nearing a mental state of decay I will keep pushing my ideas and my view point that the Far-Left is losing. Politics is local and a lot of people, especially those of Immigrants descent and African American background are waking up and voting accordingly and that is conservative. It might not be immediate but overtime you'll start seeing more and more people of color joining the ranks of the right. Is that what scares you Op? That people who don't look like you are capable of rational thinking? Seriously man go outside and look around you, its really not as bad as you make it out to be. A huge portion of America is still Republican. Politics is local.
    Jewish conspiracy, lol.

    You mean the Jewish conspiracy that the news is anti white?

    Or the Jewish conspiracy that you can't say anything negative about jews without getting destroyed? Or the Jewish conspiracy that you can say anything you want about white people or white religions with no repercussions unless its incredibly extreme and includes massive public backlash?

    Or the Jewish conspiracy that the ADL had a percentage of white people in the US on a board clear as day and the number has dropped through the decades? Had it on the board like it was a badge of honor?

    Or the fact that the primary deaths of WW2 were Europeans? And that that number was tens of millions higher than the holocaust which is made out to be worse when it was a fight against communism?

    How about the USS Liberty being attacked on purpose and killing Americans?

    Please tell me which one of those is conspiracy bud I really want you to pretend something I am saying is bull**** because everyone reading knows you're full of ****. Let me save you the trouble. You're a liar and everyone reading sees right through it.

    You want to tell me any of that is normal or okay? If you do then guess what? YOU'RE THE SUPREMACIST AND YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF

    They're doing it but if I notice and talk about it you have the AUDACITY to say I'm a problem?! I've done nothing to anyone all my life yet they can't leave me alone. I mention it and you're gonna have words about me?

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    Check out cities that are run by leftists. If you don't conclude those cities are shiitholes, then you would be wrong.

    San Francisco, LA, Seattle, NYC, Chicago, Detroit. Just to name a few. Ask yourself why are people leaving those cities?

    Not intelligent. It is apathetic and idiotic. The only reason the idiots in Seattle took down CHOP as fast as they did was because the Feds told them that they were coming in.

    What will happen when more and more cities are run by democrats? People will start to leave the country.
    What quantitative measures are you using to make this assessment?

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    What quantitative measures are you using to make this assessment?

    What major us cities are run by republicans? How do they compare?
    San Diego. That's just off the top of my head since I live here.

    Luckily, there's a ton of military/patriots around here to keep it sane.

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    San Diego. That's just off the top of my head since I live here.
    San Diego has a Republican mayor but a Democratic majority on city council
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    San Diego has a Republican mayor but a Democratic majority on city council
    Are you saying that SD is a Democrat area?

    It's actually pretty split, and not heavily left, which is my point.
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    Jewish conspiracy, lol.

    You mean the Jewish conspiracy that the news is anti white?

    Or the Jewish conspiracy that you can't say anything negative about jews without getting destroyed? Or the Jewish conspiracy that you can say anything you want about white people or white religions with no repercussions unless its incredibly extreme and includes massive public backlash?

    Or the Jewish conspiracy that the ADL had a percentage of white people in the US on a board clear as day and the number has dropped through the decades? Had it on the board like it was a badge of honor?

    Or the fact that the primary deaths of WW2 were Europeans? And that that number was tens of millions higher than the holocaust which is made out to be worse when it was a fight against communism?

    How about the USS Liberty being attacked on purpose and killing Americans?

    Please tell me which one of those is conspiracy bud I really want you to pretend something I am saying is bull**** because everyone reading knows you're full of ****. Let me save you the trouble. You're a liar and everyone reading sees right through it.

    You want to tell me any of that is normal or okay? If you do then guess what? YOU'RE THE SUPREMACIST AND YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF

    They're doing it but if I notice and talk about it you have the AUDACITY to say I'm a problem?! I've done nothing to anyone all my life yet they can't leave me alone. I mention it and you're gonna have words about me?

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    The Liberty Incident in which the State of Israel paid 3.32 Million in compensation to the families (1968). Or the USS Liberty Incident in which Israel paid a further 3.57 Million in 1969? Or the other USS Liberty Incident in which Israel paid another 6 Million in 1980 and promised to provide 13 years of interest on that amount? Lack of communication resulted in the Incident and not some made up Jewish conspiracy in your delicate mind.

    News is Anti-White? Most of the panelists are white.

    Most of the deaths in WW2 were white? I guess we can say screw you to the brave 20 Million+ Chinese soldiers who fought against Japan. I guess the 3.1 Million Japanese soldiers who died are not casualties because their eyes don't look like yours. The 4 million Indonesians that died don't count right? Or the hundreds of thousands of dead Indian soldiers forced into a European war don't count right Op? You're right Op only Europeans died during WW2. Forget about the millions of Asiatic Russians who fought in the Red Army against Hitler's War Machine and who millions never came back to their wifes and childrens. Forget about the African Americans who served in the US army and who weren't given the right to fight for their country but were used as cattle to push their supplies.

    You can't say anything about the Jews? If you stopped pushing Far-leftists view of Israel then maybe they would let you disagree with them. Saying that the State of Israel pushes a narrative against whites is stupid and is not based in reality. Pushing old and tired Nazi propaganda about jewish owned central banks and jewish run finance might arouse fear in the Jews ya know since the last time they did nothing they got tossed into camps. Is Israel perfect? No! But to sit here and peddle the same Far-Leftist crap from the early 1900's is cause for concern. Notice how I said Far Left? That's because I'm lumping you in with the communists and the national socialists who seem to both share a hatred of Israel and of the Jewish people who despite being oppressed for so long came out on top and have their own State.

    Also funny how you adopted the Nazi's propaganda that the war against Russia was a war against Communism. It wasn't. As someone who loves WW2 history I can tell you that the Nazi's only used that excuse to recruit anti-communists and gullible idiots like you among their ranks. The war against Russia was a war of extermination and that of Land. I guess the Poles and Russians don't matter right because they aren't of Germanic blood right Op? Hitler was gonna invade Russia even if it was a democracy or even if it was a fascist nation.

    To end Op, I'm not backing off because I don't want people like you infecting the Right with your early 1900's propaganda. Nobody is being exterminated and nobody is being killed. The Far-Left is killing itself and is eating at their own like they always have.

    Edit: Forgot to add that Israel is 20% Non-Jewish. I hope that helps you. Also funny how you negged me when I'm simply trynna help you see that its not as bad as you think it is.
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    Originally Posted by BullittEV View Post
    Are you saying that SD is a Democrat area?

    It's actually pretty split, and not heavily left, which is my point.
    That’s YOUR point but doesn’t really answer the question. In reality I wouldn’t be surprised if the most successful cities were run by and composed of a population of diverse but moderate leaning people who were capable of compromising and generally have a similar vision for the direction of the community. You aren’t wrong but it doesn’t answer the question.

    But common theme was “hey look at how poorly this democratic city is run!!!!” to make the point that Republican run cities are that much better and never actually showing if that’s the case.

    The argument rarely ever deals with quantitative figures and is comprised of headlines and other anecdotal info to arrive at a point. I was asking for successful Republican run cities and I still haven’t heard of any.
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    While you were busy arguing with each other, they took control of every institution, have all the good illegal stuff including weapons, control of the cities, are highly trained, control information, control the internet, control all finance, run the media, run the governments, run all the major businesses, the hospitals, Healthcare, make all the decisions, run laps around you in arguments since they're not interested in being right, just winning.

    They win everything they do because they don't concede ground for long and usually win anyway. They own you, your family, your thoughts, your speech, your property.

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    What quantitative measures are you using to make this assessment?

    What major us cities are run by republicans? How do they compare?
    Of the cities I listed, all are run by democrats. All have similar lawless-type problems. This isn't new news.
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    Of the cities I listed, all are run by democrats. All have similar lawless-type problems. This isn't new news.
    But without posting examples of big, successful Republican run cities how can you blame a political party? Could it be the problem is far more complex than your simple conclusion?
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    But without posting examples of big, successful Republican run cities how can you blame a political party? Could it be the problem is far more complex than your simple conclusion?

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    The biggest tragedy is that there is no scientific and fiscally conservative party for w/e reason...it's really depressing to be a fiscally conservative person who historically held conservative/libertarian ideals, but doesn't agree with dumbchit evolution deniers, climate change deniers, virology deniers, etc. I mean it's ridiculous. I don't think a federal minimum wage is a great idea. I think locally set living wages based on cost of living make sense. Federal minimum wage doesn't. It also might make sense to have a part time subliving wage specifically geared to jobs for teens. I believe in gun rights (maybe ban easy full auto mods and so called "assault weapons"), and I think abortions should be kept to a minimum unless there is rape, incest, or physical harm to the mother from delivering the kid. I believe in internationalism and avoiding warfare, and that is one of the most important issues to me. So where does that leave me? If I want them to cut taxes, I have to vote for this degenerate narcissistic idiot who has zero understanding of science? And otherwise, I have to go along down the slope to what is essentially communism? Great. Fuking wonderful. Yeah, I'm voting Biden, and supporting dems this time.

    What I don't get is why the GOP can't put up some intelligent person who is good on the science, believes in protecting the environment, but also is fiscally conservative? Why is this so fuking hard?
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    The biggest tragedy is that there is no scientific and fiscally conservative party for w/e reason...it's really depressing to be a fiscally conservative person who historically held conservative/libertarian ideals, but doesn't agree with dumbchit evolution deniers, climate change deniers, virology deniers, etc. I mean it's ridiculous. I don't think a federal minimum wage is a great idea. I think locally set living wages based on cost of living make sense. Federal minimum wage doesn't. It also might make sense to have a part time subliving wage specifically geared to jobs for teens. I believe in gun rights (maybe ban easy full auto mods and so called "assault weapons"), and I think abortions should be kept to a minimum unless there is rape, incest, or physical harm to the mother from delivering the kid. I believe in internationalism and avoiding warfare, and that is one of the most important issues to me. So where does that leave me? If I want them to cut taxes, I have to vote for this degenerate narcissistic idiot who has zero understanding of science? And otherwise, I have to go along down the slope to what is essentially communism? Great. Fuking wonderful. Yeah, I'm voting Biden, and supporting dems this time.

    What I don't get is why the GOP can't put up some intelligent person who is good on the science, believes in protecting the environment, but also is fiscally conservative? Why is this so fuking hard?
    You've fallen for the same old leftist propaganda that conservatives be dumb and hate science and shiiet. when you have only two major parties their always going to be lumping of ideals, difference between left and right is that on the right various ideals can exist peacefully, people can have disagreements within the right and it's no big deal. Now compare that to the left, where 90% is in complete lockstep and no one can stray without being labeled a homophone, racist etc. that's part of he reason the left has gained power, they are like the borg, completely unified. While the right is less unified because of their inherent love for freedom and individualism.
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    You've fallen for the same old leftist propaganda that conservatives be dumb and hate science and shiiet. when you have only two major parties their always going to be lumping of ideals, difference between left and right is that on the right various ideals can exist peacefully, people can have disagreements within the right and it's no big deal. Now compare that to the left, where 90% is in complete lockstep and no one can stray without being labeled a homophone, racist etc. that's part of he reason the left has gained power, they are like the borg, completely unified. While the right is less unified because of their inherent love for freedom and individualism.
    They are though. Like Trump straight up denies climate change, and Pence gave a 5 min speech arguing against evolution. That chit is retarded. Absolutely retarded. And yes, I hate the DNC as well. I saw how they shut down Tulsi. She was my favorite candidate. I see how it is. But sadly, right now the left is at least for the most part on board with scientists, and I don't expect them to go full commie. So, Biden has my vote. Frankly, the way Trump managed this covid situation and has stoked the fires of anti-intellectualism and distrust in experts like Dr. Fauci has driven me even further away. There's practically no way I end up voting Trump unless he does something absolutely miraculous and puts America in an incredible position or something. I liked SOME of what Trump did. I did like how he sort of listened to some advice on the virus. I like that he cut a lot of regulations, but I don't like how he gutted environmental and safety regulations. I do like that he simplified the tax code. I don't like how he ended up being another tax and spend guy who didn't care about debt. He just taxed it differently via tariffs. I don't think his efforts on China have achieved much of anything or strengthened the US position. Above else, I hate the way Trump has handles nuclear security agreements -- including the one with Iran, the missile defense treaties with Russia, and other nuclear strategic decisions involving hypersonic weapons. He has inadvertently put the entire world at greater risk of war. Even if he were the greatest leader of all time, if he still had this same nuclear security policy, I'd want him gone. This is by far the single most important issue to me.

    Oh there is also the issue of him being a wanted murderer in Iran, having committed the international crime of perfidy...

    And when it comes right down to it, I will always have a visceral hatred for a guy in his position who cannot multiple 17 x 6 or spell words like "supremacy". It makes me want to vomit.
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    They are though. Like Trump straight up denies climate change, and Pence gave a 5 min speech arguing against evolution. That chit is retarded. Absolutely retarded. And yes, I hate the DNC as well. I saw how they shut down Tulsi. She was my favorite candidate. I see how it is. But sadly, right now the left is at least for the most part on board with scientists, and I don't expect them to go full commie. So, Biden has my vote. Frankly, the way Trump managed this covid situation and has stoked the fires of anti-intellectualism and distrust in experts like Dr. Fauci has driven me even further away. There's practically no way I end up voting Trump unless he does something absolutely miraculous and puts America in an incredible position or something. I liked SOME of what Trump did. I did like how he sort of listened to some advice on the virus. I like that he cut a lot of regulations, but I don't like how he gutted environmental and safety regulations. I do like that he simplified the tax code. I don't like how he ended up being another tax and spend guy who didn't care about debt. He just taxed it differently via tariffs. I don't think his efforts on China have achieved much of anything or strengthened the US position. Above else, I hate the way Trump has handles nuclear security agreements -- including the one with Iran, the missile defense treaties with Russia, and other nuclear strategic decisions involving hypersonic weapons. He has inadvertently put the entire world at greater risk of war. Even if he were the greatest leader of all time, if he still had this same nuclear security policy, I'd want him gone. This is by far the single most important issue to me.

    Oh there is also the issue of him being a wanted murderer in Iran, having committed the international crime of perfidy...

    And when it comes right down to it, I will always have a visceral hatred for a guy in his position who cannot multiple 17 x 6 or spell words like "supremacy". It makes me want to vomit.
    problem is they are going full commie, and that's 1,000X worse than a not believing in global warming, or evolution or any other mostly irrelevant foreign policy, or even a virus 2X as bad as corona-virus. Nothing has or ever will destroy more lives and cause more pain and suffering than communism, and forget science at that point. I know you are a smart guy, you can't criticize Trumps handling of the virus without seeing that the Democrats have allowed and supported 100's of thousands of people marching the streets spreading the virus like wildfire, not to mention trying to erase our nations history over a statistically insignificant problem, and EVERY single democrat supports it. They have the audacity claim that gatherings of 60k+ people didn't spread the virus while at the same time telling everyone else to go hide in their basement and that bars with 10 people are the real problem, it boggles the mind how dishonest and corrupt they are. There are bigger things at stake than just the president, Trump is the wildcard, he has his faults, but hes 100% not a commie so he's miles above the Dems.
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    problem is they are going full commie, and that's 1,000X worse than a not believing in global warming, or evolution or any other mostly irrelevant foreign policy, or even a virus 2X as bad as corona-virus. Nothing has or ever will destroy more lives and cause more pain and suffering than communism, and forget science at that point. I know you are a smart guy, you can't criticize Trumps handling of the virus without seeing that the Democrats have allowed and supported 100's of thousands of people marching the streets spreading the virus like wildfire, not to mention trying to erase our nations history over a statistically insignificant problem, and EVERY single democrat supports it. They have the audacity claim that gatherings of 60k+ people didn't spread the virus while at the same time telling everyone else to go hide in their basement and that bars with 10 people are the real problem, it boggles the mind how dishonest and corrupt they are. There are bigger things at stake than just the president, Trump is the wildcard, he has his faults, but hes 100% not a commie so he's miles above the Dems.
    They aren't full Commie yet bro. This isn't Maoist "cultural revolution" level chit. In fact, the closest thing resembling that is the wave of anti-intellectualism coming from the "right". I put that in quotes because this right doesn't seem to care about fiscal responsibility at all. In fact, I can't quite put my finger on just what the hell Trump actually is. He's kind of like a fascist, but not really. He's a tax (tariffs) and spend guy. He seems to be something of an authoritarian, but when decisions might embarrass him, he leaves chit to states. I can't really put my finger on Trump's ideology. And that's because there is no ideology. There is no grand plan behind anything Trump does. Trump just does everything he can to make himself look better. Sometimes, that can mean taking socialist actions like paying out tons of money during the covid crisis. Sometimes, it can mean fascist actions like slashing tons of oversight and giving more power to his company friends and stoking the fuel of bigotry and xenophobia in the country. Sometimes, he plays both sides like he did on gun rights. When things get too hard for him, he throws things to states. He doesn't seem to have any problem with govt spying, torture etc, but he does have a problem with intelligence agencies if they investigate HIM. There is no logic behind this man's actions aside from self service. He has no vision for America.

    Biden is not a communist, and this country will not turn into some Maoist chithole simply because he gets elected. People said that about Obama when all Obama did was put forth a national healthcare plan fashioned after the one Romney used in MA. So much for Obama's socialism bankrupting the nation. We're fine. This isn't socialism. The US is still firmly in capitalist territory. Our markets aren't quite as free as they used to be, and that isn't just because of dems, but also republican legislation that has made it harder to enter industries and compete. That being said, we are still a capitalist nation. The vast majority of all the stuff is privately controlled. And that wouldn't have changed even if Sanders, an admitted socialist, had won. In fact, some of these notions of breaking up banks and large firms make a lot of sense (but they should NOT be nationalized). In the end, Biden's healthcare plan is just to expand medicare as a public option, but preserve private options. He is not socializing medicine. He is just expanding the safety net.

    My main problem is Biden is a corrupt and potentially senile sack of chit, and if he listens to Hillary, we will be having another fun military adventure somewhere really soon. And jesus fuking christ if he makes Kamala Harris his VP and she takes his position at some point...

    Our nation's history isn't being erased though. We still know all about the confederacy, we just don't need to see the damn banner of slavery flown everwhere. The riots are chaos, but again, this is mostly on bad leadership from both parties. Why isn't it a law that cops can't cover up or turn off their bodycams? Why isn't there a little more stringent training and oversight? Why is it so damn hard to convict any of these idiots who routinely kill people? Trump himself curses the idiot who killed George Floyd because all these riots happening just because some dipchit thought he'd strike a cool pose is absurd.

    I will hand you this. If we had a Maoist style cultural revolution here, it would make the coronavirus look like a fuking joke. Up to 20 million or so people died in communist China over that. We CANNOT let that happen here. But to label the democrats as commie is unfair. They are not a communist party. Are there some in the DNC that are communists? Yes. But will they get everything they want? No. Fuk no. Look who ended up being put up. Biden. Nobody in their right mind can call Biden a communist.

    Also, these rioters won't stfu until something is done. It's going to be 10x worse if Trump is elected. Last time, we had awful riots in my city. I don't even want to speculate what would happen if Trump won again and if they retained control of congress. RBG dies and then it's a 100% R dominated SCOTUS. While that may be appealing to many Republicans, you should know it is HIGHLY unstable. We might literally see blue states try to secede. It could be total chaos. There might be riots in every major city if Trump wins again. I mean...you already have the angry BLM people and then you're going to get all the "TDS" sufferers. Hell, I will throw a bitch fit too. Trump is the WRONG man for the job. He has no class. He cannot be allowed to speak for and represent this country.

    Is Biden the right guy? No. But he is a lot better than Trump. He at least makes an effort not to offend people, and when he screws up saying chit, it's more because of his dementia than any ill will. He's just less obnoxious than Trump. He's more of an internationalist. He will seek to play nice with China and not make too many waves. He'll try to unify the country. He'll probably die or step down, and his VP will carry on.

    I know climate change is real. I know we need to do something about alternative energy, and the time is running out to do it. We cannot afford to have these people keep stalling. There has to be some effort made in fusion research or something else. The US needs to stop being distracted and really start looking for solutions. 4 more years of Trump might be irreparable when you consider the SCOTUS control and other potential issues with congress.

    I'm taking my chances. I'd have voted Bernie too even though he has some very commie aspirations. I know he wouldn't have gotten everything he wanted. When we are on the verge of communism, then we can swing to the other side and start screaming about it. We aren't that close to it yet. We're just looking at some expanded social welfare programs, which tbh might become necessary in the days ahead due to covid and to jobs being automated away.

    And I will hand you that these protests are absolutely retarded and unnecessarily increased covid risk. Now is not the time to be protesting. There should have been backlash to lawmakers, but the protests are pointless and ultimately hurt America. You do have to admit the spirit of BLM against police brutality in the way that Terry Crews and I envision it is a good thing. The looting, riots, and BLM people who are trying to turn it into a supremacist movement are not good things.

    What scares the chit out of me is there is a distinct possibility that the democrat party can continue going further left and becoming actual commie. And since the GOP has gone full retard antiscience, the dems will claim to be the party of science. Now, since science is right, science will inevitably win. Eventually, it will become unconscionable to support the GOP. I argue we are already at that stage. The problem then becomes if a bunch of commies hijack the DNC, they can turn around and railroad us straight there. This is a very real possibility, and some might argue it is happening. The solution is simple: THE GOP NEEDS TO FIX ITS STANCES ON SCIENCE. STOP CATERING TO FUNDIES AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING, ALTERNATIVE ENERGY, ETC. DON'T DENY EVOLUTION IN SCHOOLS, ETC. FUND SCIENCE. Then scientists will be free to choose the GOP and not have it jeopardize their livelihoods. Tone down the anti-intellectual rhetoric and put some real scientists up there with fiscally conservative values. That way, we can avoid the communism from the very vocal youth of the democratic party. In 10-20 years, it will be only youth left and it will swing REALLY far left. If you think it's left now, you don't want to be there then. We needed moderate and sensible guys. Think Romney, but actually willing to admit to some science stuff. Ron Paul, but not retarded on science. It's a curse that people who have good sensible economic and business ideas or genuinely are loyal and devoted to this country often tend to be neglectful of science because the fields are so divorced from each other. We would have done well with Bloomberg, as unlikeable as he was though he had an authoritarian streak. The GOP needs better candidates. Put a scientist up there -- a moderate with some understanding of economics and a disdain for communism, but also a guy who understands and respects science.
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    How funny. After this post:

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    Ahem, read the quote above, and advise Tammy there is no "we" because he's Canadian
    Ari completely ignores the fact a Canadian is claiming Democrats to be "we" - but still manages to post the following:

    Originally Posted by AriGhold View Post
    What quantitative measures are you using to make this assessment?

    What major us cities are run by republicans? How do they compare?
    Originally Posted by AriGhold View Post
    San Diego has a Republican mayor but a Democratic majority on city council
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    That’s YOUR point but doesn’t really answer the question. In reality I wouldn’t be surprised if the most successful cities were run by and composed of a population of diverse but moderate leaning people who were capable of compromising and generally have a similar vision for the direction of the community. You aren’t wrong but it doesn’t answer the question.

    But common theme was “hey look at how poorly this democratic city is run!!!!” to make the point that Republican run cities are that much better and never actually showing if that’s the case.

    The argument rarely ever deals with quantitative figures and is comprised of headlines and other anecdotal info to arrive at a point. I was asking for successful Republican run cities and I still haven’t heard of any.
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    But without posting examples of big, successful Republican run cities how can you blame a political party? Could it be the problem is far more complex than your simple conclusion?
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