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    Originally Posted by Vardoger View Post
    bro that's our molotov cocktail councilwoman Alex Scott. She recently won the Democratic nomination for an Oklahoma senate seat.

    I am smitten with this little biscuit.
    I mean we know you're some soy faced skinny fat weirdo and probably balding too. The classic ugly liberal simp so keep fantasizing.
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    Originally Posted by DukeOfWoodBerry View Post
    The half of the state that Gorsuch and libs say belongs to American Indians only has 15% American Indian population. .
    That area could have only one Native American resident and, as correctly interpreted by Gorsuch the textualist, according to law that land would still belong to Native Americans.
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    Originally Posted by Vardoger View Post
    bro that's our molotov cocktail councilwoman Alex Scott. She recently won the Democratic nomination for an Oklahoma senate seat.

    I am smitten with this little biscuit.

    Guarantee you I could turn her into a conservative Republican nuclear family loving housewife in 1 month.
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    Originally Posted by Vardoger View Post
    That area could have only one Native American resident and, as correctly interpreted by Gorsuch the textualist, according to law that land would still belong to native Americans.
    Nope there was precedent after precedent saying that's not the case. It's not practical in any way either. LOL at you shutting up quickly about the chaotic implications of this decision. Get back to your video games and fantasizing about American Indians ugly phaggot.
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    Originally Posted by DukeOfWoodBerry View Post
    Nope there was precedent after precedent saying that's not the case. It's not practical in any way either. LOL at you shutting up quickly about the chaotic implications of this decision. Get back to your video games and fantasizing about American Indians ugly phaggot.
    govt shouldn't make treaties it won't honor brah

    also ho lee fuk wood smash that sloot
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    Originally Posted by trancecel View Post
    govt shouldn't make treaties it won't honor brah

    also ho lee fuk wood smash that sloot
    Why don't you focus on meeting an actual girl instead? Try for a 4 at least.
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    Guarantee you I could turn her into a conservative Republican nuclear family loving housewife in 1 month.
    I saw her first, man. Thems the rules and you know it.
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    Man OP is furious. Was he the child that got raped? Was Gorsuch there holding him down?
    It's the MeToo Era. You can just come out and talk about it.

    Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see any other reason why he is the only person that's so upset by this.
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    I mean we know you're some soy faced skinny fat weirdo and probably balding too. The classic ugly liberal simp so keep fantasizing.
    Strong unaware.


    So mad. Is it because you can't say you're proud of your elected officials?
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    Originally Posted by Vardoger View Post
    I saw her first, man. Thems the rules and you know it.


    Dude you look like this LOL. You think that being an "enlightened" liberal and simping will help you with women, especially minority women but an American Indian chick who's a 5 won't give you the time of day.
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    Supreme Court Rules That About Half Of Oklahoma Is Native American Land

    The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that about half of the land in Oklahoma is within a Native American reservation, a decision that will have major consequences for both past and future criminal and civil cases.

    The court's decision hinged on the question of whether the Creek reservation continued to exist after Oklahoma became a state.

    "Today we are asked whether the land these treaties promised remains an Indian reservation for purposes of fed­eral criminal law. Because Congress has not said otherwise, we hold the government to its word," Justice Neil Gorsuch wrote in the majority opinion.

    The decision was 5-4, with Justices Gorsuch, Sonia Sotomayor, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Elena Kagan and Stephen Breyer in the majority, while Justices John Roberts, Brett Kavanaugh, Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas dissented.

    The ruling will have significant legal implications for eastern Oklahoma. Much of Tulsa, the state's second-largest city, is located on Muscogee (Creek) land. The Muscogee (Creek) Nation cheered the court's decision.

    "The Supreme Court today kept the United States' sacred promise to the Muscogee (Creek) Nation of a protected reservation," the tribe said in a statement. "Today's decision will allow the Nation to honor our ancestors by maintaining our established sovereignty and territorial boundaries."

    In a dissenting opinion, Roberts, the chief justice, wrote that the decision "will undermine numerous convictions obtained by the State, as well as the State's abil­ity to prosecute serious crimes committed in the future," and "may destabilize the governance of vast swathes of Oklahoma."

    Kevin Washburn is dean of the law school at the University of Iowa, where he teaches a course on federal Indian law — "It's basically 15 weeks of how the law in the United States has failed my people," he said.

    He served as assistant secretary of Indian affairs from 2012 to 2016, and he's a citizen of the Chickasaw Nation of Oklahoma. He called the court's ruling "a great decision."

    "For Indian people, their land is really important, and treaties are really important. They're sacred. And this reaffirms the sacredness of those promises and those treaties."

    "Now and then there's a great case that helps you keep the faith about the rule of law," he said. "And this is one of those."

    The ruling has a number of significant consequences for criminal law in the relevant portion of Oklahoma.

    The first is that going forward, certain major crimes committed within the boundaries of reservations must be prosecuted in federal court rather than state court, if a Native American is involved. So if a Native American is accused of a major crime in downtown Tulsa, the federal government rather than the state government will prosecute it. Less serious crimes involving Native Americans on American Indian land will be handled in tribal courts. This arrangement is already common in Western states like Arizona, New Mexico and Montana, said Washburn.

    Then there's the issue of past decisions — many of them are now considered wrongful convictions because the state lacked jurisdiction. A number of criminal defendants who have been convicted in the past will now have grounds to challenge their convictions, arguing that the state never had jurisdiction to try them.

    The case before the court, McGirt v. Oklahoma, concerned Jimcy McGirt, an enrolled member of the Seminole Nation of Oklahoma who was convicted of sex crimes against a child on Creek land. In post-conviction proceedings, McGirt argued that the state lacked jurisdiction in the case and that he must be retried in federal court. The high court agreed.

    The ruling will affect lands of the Muscogee and four other Oklahoma tribes with identical treaties. Civil court issues are also affected.

    It's important to note that the case concerned jurisdiction, not land ownership.

    Ruling that these lands are in fact reservations "doesn't mean the tribe owns all the land within the reservation, just like the county doesn't own all the land within the county. In fact, it probably doesn't own very much of that land," Washburn explained. "That's not what a reservation is these days."


    Washburn compares a reservation to a county — terms that describe jurisdictional boundaries.

    Oklahoma Attorney General Mike Hunter released a joint statement with the Muscogee (Creek), Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw and Seminole nations on Thursday, indicating that they "have made substantial progress toward an agreement to present to Congress and the U.S. Department of Justice addressing and resolving any significant jurisdictional issues."

    Ian Heath Gershengorn, an attorney at Jenner & Block, argued McGirt's case before the Supreme Court. He said his team was thrilled with the result and had felt optimistic knowing that Gorsuch could prove to be the deciding vote.

    Gorsuch joined with the court's more liberal members in the decision. Prior to his appointment to the high court, Gorsuch was a judge on the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, which frequently sees cases involving Native American lands.

    "Justice Gorsuch has made very clear in his short time on the bench that he takes the text deeply seriously," Gershengorn said. "And I think you saw that the core of his analysis today was a textual one. We felt like we had the right argument at the right time for the right justice."

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    I saw her first, man. Thems the rules and you know it.
    Brah, even after 20 years married my wife still outdoes her from every aspect...
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    Dude you look like this LOL. You think that being an "enlightened" liberal and simping will help you with women, especially minority women but an American Indian chick who's a 5 won't give you the time of day.
    You have completely lost all focus on the topic you introduced.

    You're concerned now with my appearance.

    stop what you're doing, and realize this is how you choose to represent yourself, and moreover the movement you aspire to herald.
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    State, Muscogee (Creek), Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, and Seminole Nations Release Joint Statement in Response to SCOTUS Decision in McGirt Case

    OKLAHOMA CITY – The State of Oklahoma, Muscogee (Creek), Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, and Seminole Nations released this joint statement today following the U.S. Supreme Court ruling in the McGirt v. Oklahoma case.

    The State, the Muscogee (Creek), Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, and Seminole Nations have made substantial progress toward an agreement to present to Congress and the U.S. Department of Justice addressing and resolving any significant jurisdictional issues raised by the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision in McGirt v. Oklahoma.

    The Nations and the State are committed to ensuring that Jimcy McGirt, Patrick Murphy, and all other offenders face justice for the crimes for which they are accused. We have a shared commitment to maintaining public safety and long-term economic prosperity for the Nations and Oklahoma.

    The Nations and the State are committed to implementing a framework of shared jurisdiction that will preserve sovereign interests and rights to self-government while affirming jurisdictional understandings, procedures, laws, and regulations that support public safety, our economy, and private property rights. We will continue our work, confident that we can accomplish more together than any of us could alone.
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    I think the terminology “gave away half of Oklahoma“ there’s a miss-characterized or misrepresented statement of what actually happened here.
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    So much cringe ITT. This case was only about who has jurisdiction as it relates to state and federal courts. No land exchanged hands, nobody sided with or against a rapist.
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    Originally Posted by SmillironS View Post
    So much cringe ITT. This case was only about who has jurisdiction as it relates to state and federal courts. No land exchanged hands, nobody sided with or against a rapist.
    Pretty much the way I see it , is the decision right or wrong? I’m not sure about my opinion yet I’m still reading it and thinking.


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    Originally Posted by DukeOfWoodBerry View Post
    LOL at you shutting up quickly about the chaotic implications of this decision.
    I know I'm poking the hornet's nest here but f'ck it, why not.

    you cite the low percentage of Native American population yet presume this new ruling will create a mecca of lawlessness. Do you suggest a few people will overtake the land with lawlessness? You are severely unaware of Oklahoma culture if you think a new uprising of chaos will ensue. We are that armed, conservative state.

    Lastly, there is nothing to suggest non-Native American citizens will be exempt from prosecution for crimes committed on Native American land, neither is there evidence Native Americans will not prosecute members of their respective tribes for committing crimes on this new territory.

    I'm not buying your bridge here either friend.
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    Originally Posted by gachase21 View Post
    Pretty much the way I see it , is the decision right or wrong? I’m not sure about my opinion yet I’m still reading it and thinking.


    Might have to sleep on this one.
    I can’t speak entirely certain on the matter as I’m not an Oklahoma Indian but based on how things are on my Rez the ruling was correct and I agree with it entirely. Now there’s the whole can of worms about people breaking the law state side and hiding out in Indian country but that’s an entirely different topic.
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    This thing like something straight up the alley Andrew Johnson would have taken care of and restocked during reconstruction.


    He should have use that never let a crisis go to waste moment to legally resolve all remaining treaty disputes - be the Ass he was and overpower seize everything - negate all previous treaties.

    He was kind of doing that to everything else in the states, to the point he couldn’t even fire his cabinet anymore when Congress got done.


    surprised be didn’t



    Good, bad , or ugly - right or wrong all that crap should have got dealt with in reconstruction


    It looks like it wasn’t - umpires made the call from the rulebook
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    Originally Posted by gachase21 View Post
    This thing like something straight up the alley Andrew Johnson would have taken care of and restocked during reconstruction.


    He should have use that never let a crisis go to waste moment to legally resolve all remaining treaty disputes - be the Ass he was and overpower seize everything - negate all previous treaties.

    He was kind of doing that to everything else in the states, to the point he couldn’t even fire his cabinet anymore when Congress got done.


    surprised be didn’t



    Good, bad , or ugly - right or wrong all that crap should have got dealt with in reconstruction


    It looks like it wasn’t - umpires made the call from the rulebook
    As Roberts said it's been settled by many precedents which were ignored. The land has been settled and run by the Oklahoma state government for generations. It wasn't umpires, it was libs and Gorsuch who rely on their feels about Indian land. Libs and cucks like Gorsuch will always side with Indians no matter how ridiculous or impractical it is.
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    Originally Posted by DukeOfWoodBerry View Post
    As Roberts said it's been settled by many precedents which were ignored. The land has been settled and run by the Oklahoma state government for generations. It wasn't umpires, it was libs and Gorsuch who rely on their feels about Indian land. Libs and cucks like Gorsuch will always side with Indians no matter how ridiculous or impractical it is.
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    Originally Posted by DukeOfWoodBerry View Post
    As Roberts said it's been settled by many precedents which were ignored. The land has been settled and run by the Oklahoma state government for generations. It wasn't umpires, it was libs and Gorsuch who rely on their feels about Indian land. Libs and cucks like Gorsuch will always side with Indians no matter how ridiculous or impractical it is.
    I’ll read the remainder of the decent tomorrow.

    - guess we will have to read the matching associated history also.


    Idk I have no opinion yet other than I need sleep - I’m leaning toward the majority voter here but idk.


    Settled means it’s “settled” as in legally resolved - or some poverty version of a common law marriage.

    Or “occupied” settled

    I get we need to see things in perspective reason - but, idk
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    Originally Posted by gachase21 View Post
    I’ll read the remainder of the decent tomorrow.

    - guess we will have to read the matching associated history also.


    Idk I have no opinion yet other than I need sleep - I’m leaning toward the majority voter here but idk.


    Settled means it’s “settled” as in legally resolved - or some poverty version of a common law marriage.

    Or “occupied” settled

    I get we need to see things in perspective reason - but, idk
    You're flip flopping a lot here.
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    Maybe they can put the protestors in jail for us, without some of our pesky laws in the way.


    Does google and twitter travel though their jurisdiction?

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    Originally Posted by DukeOfWoodBerry View Post
    You're flip flopping a lot here.

    I’m just thinking back-and-forth, reading this stuff
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    Originally Posted by Vardoger View Post
    Just so you know, Oklahoma takes its name from Native American words.


    Oklahoma is a word that was made up by the native American missionary Allen Wright. He combined two Choctaw words, "ukla" meaning person and "humá" meaning red to form the word that first appears in a 1866 Choctaw treaty. Oklahoma means "red person."

    https://www.netstate.com/states/intr...d%20person.%22

    The state is named after Natives. It is, in fact, theirs.

    And I live here, and I assure you, there will be no chaos in this state unless it comes from an angry incel like McVeigh.
    Oh so because how a name is derrived is legal authority of ownership?

    Please tell me about the state of "Indiana"
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    Oh so because how a name is derrived is legal authority of ownership?

    Please tell me about the state of "Indiana"
    No the legal ownership is from a fuking treaty upheld by the US SCOTUS, whose deciding vote was made by a judge appointed by YOUR guy.

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    No the legal ownership is from a fuking treaty upheld by the US SCOTUS, whose deciding vote was made by a judge appointed by YOUR guy.

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