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    How do you fix the media without violating freedom of press?

    there’s an obvious problem with the media in this country. Every major news outlet is owned by a select few group of people, and reports the same sensationalist bs

    Is there a way to fix it without breaking freedom of press? Make it law that they can only report strict facts, no talk shows or opinion pieces?
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    Originally Posted by xeron View Post
    Is there a way to fix it without breaking freedom of press? Make it law that they can only report strict facts, no talk shows or opinion pieces?
    Sure. But who decides what the "facts" are?
    I'm sure you are aware that the current POTUS has called verifiable facts "fake news" when he doesn't like them.
    So who decides what's fake and what isn't? And who appoints the deciders?
    Can't work.
    Teaching people to question the veracity of what they hear on their favourite news channel, even if they like the sound of it, would be a step forward.
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    Originally Posted by dakensta View Post
    Sure. But who decides what the "facts" are?
    I'm sure you are aware that the current POTUS has called verifiable facts "fake news" when he doesn't like them.
    So who decides what's fake and what isn't? And who appoints the deciders?
    Can't work.
    Teaching people to question the veracity of what they hear on their favourite news channel, even if they like the sound of it, would be a step forward.

    Yeah we definitely shouldn’t be holding the media accountable. The listeners are who we need to hold to a higher standard.
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    Originally Posted by dakensta View Post
    Sure. But who decides what the "facts" are?
    I'm sure you are aware that the current POTUS has called verifiable facts "fake news" when he doesn't like them.
    So who decides what's fake and what isn't? And who appoints the deciders?
    Can't work.
    Teaching people to question the veracity of what they hear on their favourite news channel, even if they like the sound of it, would be a step forward.
    Courts decide what the facts are

    If you knowingly spread information even though you knew it was false/knew that all the facts aren't out yet to jump to X conclusion = large fine
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    Originally Posted by dakensta View Post
    Sure. But who decides what the "facts" are?
    That isn't the problem. Just show what happened and leave the friggin editorial out of it.
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    Protecting freedom of the press is what fixes things. What we are seeing from the Left is mass censorship, especially on social media. Outlets that don't follow SJWism are being bullied
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    Paddy Chayefsky nailed it, and the greatest part is you did this to yourselves. I bet most of you don't even remember when news was news.

    Plus, of course, most of you want to hear "news" that coinicides with your own biases, so you're part of the problem.
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    Originally Posted by dakensta View Post
    Sure. But who decides what the "facts" are?
    I'm sure you are aware that the current POTUS has called verifiable facts "fake news" when he doesn't like them.
    So who decides what's fake and what isn't? And who appoints the deciders?
    Can't work.
    Teaching people to question the veracity of what they hear on their favourite news channel, even if they like the sound of it, would be a step forward.
    It’s hard to make up

    -X building catches on fire
    -X country has bombed Y country
    -35 people ran over in x parade
    -X says “Christmas weather is ****ty but the presents are awesome” not “Christmas [omit] is ****ty [omit]”

    Etc

    News should be robotic, it’s the news
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    Originally Posted by xeron View Post
    It’s hard to make up
    -X building catches on fire, the gays did it
    -X country has bombed Z country
    -35 people jump in front of cars in marxist suicide attempt

    It's easy.

    -X says “Christmas weather is ****ty but the presents are awesome” not “Christmas [omit] is ****ty [omit]”
    Quoting "bits" out of quotes is a pet hate of mine. There are dozens of things "people said" that I have never actually read the entire quote that included the entire sentence, and included context. And I've tried. Even quotes I like the sound of.

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    Originally Posted by xeron View Post

    Is there a way to fix it without breaking freedom of press? Make it law that they can only report strict facts, no talk shows or opinion pieces?
    So, in short, your solution is to break freedom of the press.
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    Start a credible, factual, unbiased news channel - like the news used to be.

    Most of America is tired of "news" channel propaganda telling them what to think. I think they'd be happy to tune in to something else and put the shills out of business.
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    Originally Posted by VoxExMachina View Post
    Start a credible, factual, unbiased news channel - like the news used to be.
    Yup. Saw a quote somewhere that basically said "Journalism is dead. Instead of telling us what happened, all we see now is the authors opinion on what happened."
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    The media goes through cycles. It will move back towards credible reporting, more than likely muckraking first. The same thing happened during the earlier half of the last century. Anyone remember Yellow Journalism?
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    Actually, it is slowly fixing itself. Mainstream media is finding it difficult to spin narrative for either party. Independent youtubers and chit always will present different views. What is really important is that the public is properly educated to critically analyze media and is scientifically literate. Otherwise, disinformation campaigns can be used to exploit our population and destroy our country. The price of freedom is that you will get idiots spreading bullchit. Our best defense is to make sure our public is well educated. That doesn't necessarily mean expanding public education funding or programs. It means making sure education standards are higher and that schools functionally help people learn to critically analyze media.

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    Originally Posted by dakensta View Post
    -X building catches on fire, the gays did it
    -X country has bombed Z country
    -35 people jump in front of cars in marxist suicide attempt

    It's easy.


    Quoting "bits" out of quotes is a pet hate of mine. There are dozens of things "people said" that I have never actually read the entire quote that included the entire sentence, and included context. And I've tried. Even quotes I like the sound of.


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    This part is purely conjecture on my part, but I also assume they preferred smaller penises due to the rampant anal sex between mentors and proteges.
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    You act like fake news is a novel concept. Yellow journalism has been occurring in America en masse for well over a century, most notably the Hearst/Pulitzer battles in NYC at the turn of the 20th century. Just keep your head man.
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    If one believes, as I do, that the media is the biggest terrorist organization on earth....then it only makes sense they are treated as such...
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    I don't believe there is a fix to the media. We can fix what we watch and read though.

    They are frequently dishonest. They all to often view themselves as entertainment I believe. The news does often wind people up, making them upset.

    When I was in school a couple teachers made it a point to teach critical thinking when watching and reading the news. I'm guessing today that in schools that skill is no longer taught.
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    Originally Posted by VoxExMachina View Post
    Start a credible, factual, unbiased news channel - like the news used to be.

    Most of America is tired of "news" channel propaganda telling them what to think. I think they'd be happy to tune in to something else and put the shills out of business.

    Don’t think that’s very possible.

    The problem also is the Inherit bias from journalist themselves- it’s the nature of who’s is drawn to that work , as well as the bias in their education. They are naturally liberal biased- more importantly their reporting centers around what’s the easiest access of information for them - they naturally present every story in relationship to what the government (state, local , federal) is going to do about it , or what their comments about it are.

    This creates the culture of expectation of Government involvement in everything


    If you had a just fact and news channel - the stories will still be presented in a way with intended bias , or the stories selected to be presented would be based on bias.

    I.e a channel just reports the news and facts. However the stores they report are about children getting shot by handguns, over and over. They never present the stores of people protected by a gun. Thus a factual story presented as raw news will influence a national bias.

    Look at what NPR became.



    I like the Financial news sources myself - because even when they are bias - when it comes to money decisions and investing people tend to stay closer to the actual truth.
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    Originally Posted by ParsleyTea View Post
    I don't believe there is a fix to the media. We can fix what we watch and read though.

    They are frequently dishonest. They all to often view themselves as entertainment I believe. The news does often wind people up, making them upset.

    When I was in school a couple teachers made it a point to teach critical thinking when watching and reading the news. I'm guessing today that in schools that skill is no longer taught.
    The news was complicit in spygate. They had the unredacted carter Page fisa and STILL decided to report fake stories to hurt trump and his associates. An honest media would have shut that down in an instant.

    When people’s lives are targeted and ruined, you are no longer in the entertainment realm. It’s a criminal enterprise.
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    Originally Posted by xeron View Post
    It’s hard to make up

    -X building catches on fire
    -X country has bombed Y country
    -35 people ran over in x parade
    -X says “Christmas weather is ****ty but the presents are awesome” not “Christmas [omit] is ****ty [omit]”

    Etc

    News should be robotic, it’s the news
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    Originally Posted by XterraRob View Post
    The media goes through cycles. It will move back towards credible reporting, more than likely muckraking first. The same thing happened during the earlier half of the last century. Anyone remember Yellow Journalism?
    my buddies and I were talking about this a few months ago.
    MSM is turning into tabloids.
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